Bob Dole, PCCWW photo portrait
Robert J. Dole
Bill Clinton
William(Bill) J. Clinton
Jack F. Kemp
Al Gore, Vice President of the United States, official portrait 1994
Albert A. Gore
16 Oct 1996
09 Oct 1996
06 Oct 1996
Arguments Table
Speech Name Component Year Date
Good evening from the Shiley Theatre at the University of San Diego, San Diego, California. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm Jim Lehrer of the News Hour on PBS. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Welcome to this second 1996 presidential debate between Senator Bob Dole, the Republican nominee, and President Bill Clinton, the Democratic nominee. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It is sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We will follow a town-hall type format tonight. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
The questions over the next 90 minutes will come from citizens of the greater San Diego area. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
They were chosen in the past week by the Gallup organization to represent a rough cross section of voters as to political views, age, gender and other factors. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Each said he or she is undecided about this presidential race. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
They were told to come tonight with questions. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Nobody from the debate commission or the two campaigns has any idea what those questions are. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Neither do I. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We will all be hearing them for the first time at the same time. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I met with this group three hours ago, and we spoke only about how it was going to work tonight. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
They are sitting in five sections. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I will call on individuals at random, moving from one section to another with each new question, alternating the questions between the two candidates. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
My job is to keep things fair and the subjects as clear and as varied as possible. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
The rules, drawn by the campaigns, are basically the same as they were for the Hartford and St. Petersburg debates; 90 second-answers, 60 -second rebuttals, 30-second responses for each question. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
The candidates are not allowed to question each other directly. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
There will be two-minute opening and closing statements. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
The order for this evening was set by coin toss. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We begin now with Senator Dole and his opening statement. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Thank you very much, Jim. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let me first give you a sports update. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
The Braves, one; the Cardinals, nothing, early on. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I want to thank you and I want to thank everybody here tonight. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I want to give a special thanks to my wife Elizabeth, my daughter Robin for their love and support, and thank the people who are listening and watching all over America. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
In 20 days, you will help decide who will lead this country into the next century. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's an awesome responsibility. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And you must ask yourself, do you know enough about the candidates? Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You should know as much as possible about each of us. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Sometimes the views have been distorted. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
There's been millions and millions of dollars of negative advertising spent distorting my views. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But I hope tonight you will get a better feel of who Bob Dole is and what he's all about. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I think first you should -- I should understand that the question on your mind is do I understand your problem. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Would I understand it if it occurred to me, and I might just say I'm from a large family. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I got lots of relatives and they're good, average, middle-class, hardworking Americans. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
They live all across the country. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
They're not all Republicans. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Maybe all but one. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
But in any event, I understand the problems. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Whether it's two parents working because one has to pay the taxes and one has to provide for the family, whether it's a single parent who just barely pays the pressing bills or whether you're worried about an education for your children going to the best schools, or whether you're worried about safe playgrounds, drug-free schools, crime-free schools. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is what this election is all about. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And hopefully tonight when we conclude this debate you will have a better understanding and the viewing and listening audience will have a better understanding. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Thank you. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Mr. President, two minutes, opening statement. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I was going to applaud, too. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, thank you, Jim. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And thanks to the people of San Diego for giving us this opportunity to have another discussion about the decision we all face in front of people who will make the decision. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Again, I will say I will do my best to make this a discussion of ideas and issues, not insults. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
What really matters is what happens to your future and what happens to our country as we stand on the brink of a new century, a time of extraordinary possibility. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I have a simple philosophy that I tried to follow for the last four years: Do what creates opportunity for all, what reinforces responsibility from all of us, and what will help us build a community where everybody's got a role to play and a place at the table. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Compared to four years ago, we're clearly better off. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We've got ten and a half million more jobs, the deficit's been reduced by 60 percent. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Incomes are rising for the first time in a decade, the crime rates, the welfare rolls are falling, we're putting , 100,000 more police on the street. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
60,000 felons, fugitives and stalkers have been denied handguns. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
But that progress is only the beginning. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
What we really should focus on tonight is what we still have to do to help the American people make the most of this future that's out there. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I think what really matters is what we can do to build strong families. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Strong families need a strong economy. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
To me that means we have to go on and balance this budget while we protect Medicare and Medicaid and education and the environment. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We should give a tax cut, targeted to child rearing and education, to buying a first home and paying for health care. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We ought to help protect our kids from drugs and guns and gangs and tobacco. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We ought to help move a million people from welfare to work and we ought to create the finest education system in the world where every 18-year-old can go on to college and all of our younger children have great educational opportunities. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
If we do those things, we can build that bridge to the 21st century. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's what I hope to get to talk about tonight. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Thank you. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let's go now to the first question from this section. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
For Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes, ma'am. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Hello, Senator Dole. MCAFEE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Hi. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
My name is Shannon McAfee. MCAFEE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm a beginning educator in this country, and I really think it's important what children have to say. MCAFEE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
They're still very idealistic. MCAFEE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And they -- everything they say comes from the heart. MCAFEE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I have a quote for you from "If I Were President," compiled by Peggy Gavin. MCAFEE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
A sixth grader says, "If I were president, I would think about Abraham Lincoln and George Washington and what they did to make our country great. MCAFEE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We should unite the white and black people and people of all cultures. MCAFEE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Democrats and Republicans should unite also. MCAFEE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We should all come together and think of the best ways to solve the economic problems of our country. MCAFEE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
"I believe that when we are able to come together and stop fighting amongst ourselves we will get along a lot better." MCAFEE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
These are the ideals and morals that we are teach -- we are trying to teach our children in these days. MCAFEE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yet we don't seem to be practicing them in our government, in anything. MCAFEE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
If you are president, how will you begin to practice what we are preaching to our children, the future of our nation? MCAFEE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, I would say first of all, I think, it's a very good question. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I appreciate the quote from the young man. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
There's no doubt about it that many American people have lost their faith in government. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
They see scandals almost on a daily basis. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
They see ethical problems in the Whitehouse today. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
They see 900 FBI files, private person, being gathered up by somebody in the Whitehouse. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Nobody knows who hired this man. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
So there's a great deal of cynicism out there. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
But I've always tried in whatever I've done is to bring people together. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I said in my acceptance speech in San Diego about two months ago that the exits are clearly marked. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
If you think the Republican party is some place for you to come if you're narrow minded or bigoted or don't like certain people in America, the exits are clearly marked for you to walk out of as I stand here without compromise, because this is the party of Lincoln. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I think we have a real obligation, obviously public officials. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm no longer a public official. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I left public life on June the 11th of this year. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
But it is very important. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Young people are looking to us. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
They're looking to us for leadership. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
They're watching what we do, what we say, what we promise and what we finally deliver. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I would think, it seems to me that there are opportunities here. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
When I'm President of the United States, I will keep my word. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
My word is my bond. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Mr. President. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
One of the reasons that I ran for president, Sandy, is because not just children, a lot of grownups felt that way. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And if you remember four years ago, we had not only rising unemployment, but a lot of rising cynicism. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I had never worked in Washington as an elected official. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It seemed to me that most of the arguments were partisan, Republican, Democrat, left, right, liberal, conservative. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's why I said tonight I'm for opportunity, responsibility and community. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And we've gotten some real progress in the last four years. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I've also done everything I could at every moment of division in this country, after Oklahoma City, when these churches were burned, to bring people together and remind people that we are stronger because of our diversity. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We have to respect one another. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You mentioned Washington and Lincoln. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
They were presidents at historic times. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is an historic time. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's important we go beyond those old partisan arguments and focus on people and their future. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
When we do that, instead of shutting the government down over a partisan fight over the budget, we're a better country and that's why we're making progress now. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, bringing people together, again, is obviously a responsibility we all have. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I know you do it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Everybody here does it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You do a lot of things nobody knows about. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I have a little foundation for the disabled called the Dole Foundation. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We've raised about $10 million. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We don't talk about it. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We try to help people with disabilities. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Bring them back into the mainstream of public life. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
So it seems to me that there's also a public trust. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
When you're the president of the United States, you have a public trust and you have to keep that public trust, as George Washington, as Abraham Lincoln did. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I think now that trust is being violated and it seems to me we ought to face up to it, and the president ought to say tonight that he's not going to pardon anybody that he was involved in business with who might implicate him later on. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
All right. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
The next question from this section right here. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Right there in the middle, sir. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes, sir. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Dr. Robert N. Berkley. BERKLEY O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm a cardiologist from Fallbrook, California. BERKLEY O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Mr. President, I would like to know if you would please explain your plans for -- in a substantive fashion for addressing the problems with the health care system in our country. BERKLEY O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I will. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
First of all, let me say what we have done. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
In the last four years we've worked hard to promote more competition to bring down the rate of inflation in health care costs without eroding health care quality. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
The government pays for Medicare and Medicaid, as you know, and that's very important. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Secondly, we've added a million more children to the ranks of the insured through the Medicaid program. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We have protected 25 million people through the passage of the Kennedy-Kassebaum bill that says you can use your health insurance if you change jobs or someone in your family has been sick. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We just recently ended those drive-by deliveries saying people can't be kicked out of the hospital by insurance companies when they've just had babies. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
So this is, that's a good start. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
In the next four years, I want to focus on the following things. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Number one, add another million children to the insured ranks through the Medicaid program. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Number two, keep working with the states, as we are now, to add 2.2 million more people to the insurance system. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Number three, cover people who are between jobs for up to six months. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That could protect 3 million families, 700,000 kids. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Number four, make sure we protect the integrity with the Medicare program and Medicaid program and not do anything in cutting costs which would cause hundreds of hospitals to close which could have been the case if the 270billion dollar Medicare cut that I vetoed, had been enacted in the law. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, first, let me say there you go again, Mr. President, talking about a Medicare cut. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I have heard you say this time after time. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I have heard you say on one TV appearance, "the media made me do it." Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You were trying to defend your cut which was not a cut either, Reduction in the growth of spending. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We've always had at least 7 percent. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You've said publicly that it's now three times the rate of inflation. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We ought to cut the growth to twice the rate of inflation. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's about where we are now. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
So let's stop talking about cutting Medicare. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
In my economic plan we increase it 39percent. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Don't forget what he tried to do with health care. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
17 new taxes, spend 1.5 trillion dollars, 50 new bureaucracies. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Can you believe that? Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You couldn't even have been a cardiologist because he had quotas. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You're a cardiologist, it wouldn't affect you. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But if somebody wanted to be a cardiologist, ten years from now, you'd have to be certain you complied with some of the rules in this extreme medical plan the government was going to take over for all Americans. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
There are things we can do like the Kassebaum bill. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We changed many provisions I authored, cover preexisting conditions, portability, and there are other things we can do. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We still need to cover about 20million people and a lot of children. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I don't have time in 30 seconds to respond to fix all that. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
But let me just say the American Hospital Association said that the budget I vetoed could have closed 700 hospitals. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Not me. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
On a per-person basis, it did cut way below the rate of inflation in medical costs. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But the important thing is what are we going to do now? William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We need to help people who are between jobs. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We need to cover more kids. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Provide more preventative care. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
My balanced budget covers mammograms for ladies, women on Medicare and also gives respite care to the million-plus families who have someone with Alzheimer’s. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
These things are paid for in the balanced budget plan. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It'll move us forward. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Next question is for Senator Dole from here. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes, sir. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, my name is Jason Milligan, active duty military and small business owner, and my question is: What is your position on closing the gap between military and civilian pay scales? MILLIGAN O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Jason, I appreciate that very much, being a former military man myself. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
You know, we have 17,000 men and women today wearing our uniform that receive food stamps. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It shouldn't happen in America. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We have men and women wearing our uniform in substandard housing. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It shouldn't happen in America. Robert J. Dole NaN 1996 16 Oct 1996
And it's time we take a look at the pay scales. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Did get a 3 percent increase this year, but that's not enough. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
If we're going to ask young men and young women to protect us and defend us around the world, and we've had more deployments under this administration than any time in history. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Fifty times we deployed troops around the world. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Every time you do that you take a risk. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Somebody, you know, maybe your son, maybe your grandson, maybe somebody else. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
But I think anybody who wears a uniform is a great American. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Remember Vietnam? Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Remember when people almost used to walk across the street rather than have a contact with somebody who was in Vietnam? Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's all behind us now, and it should be behind us, and the forgotten war, the Korean War, but I guess I can just answer you very plainly, Jason. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Thank you for doing what you're doing. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
America owes you a debt of gratitude. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
May I ask you a question? William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
What service are you in? William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm in the United States Navy, sir. MILLIGAN Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And what kind of small business do you have? William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I have an Amway business. MILLIGAN Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Good for you. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let me say, if Senator Dole mentioned this, I just signed a bill that we got through Congress to increase the amount of pay increase we could give for military personnel and to make sure the pay increase this year was above the rate of inflation. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I also presented to the Congress and they adopted a large package of quality-of-life improvements, which are very important. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I spent a lot of time talking to military families as well as military members all over the world and in bases all across the United States, and I became convinced after talking to the families and the personnel in uniform that we needed to not only have the pay raise but we needed to invest more in child care, housing, and other things to support families, especially when there are longer deployments because of the downsizing of the military. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
So I, we're going to do better, and we'll do better still, but this is a commitment I think that all Americans share without regard to party. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I don't disagree with anything that the President said, except he waited four years to do these things, and my view is it ought to be, it will be done on Day 1. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We'll start working on Day 1 in the Dole- Kemp administration. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is important. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We only have ten divisions now. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We used to have 18. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We had 25 fighter wings. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're down to 13. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We had 536 ships. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're down to 336 ships. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I mean, we've cut defense spending too much in the first place. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
The President told you in '92 he would cut it 67 billion. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
He cut 112 billion dollars, so we're right on the edge right now. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But the last thing we ought to do is make those who wear the uniforms sacrifice. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Next question here for President Clinton. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes, ma'am, here on the front row. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
President Clinton, my name is Cecily Kelly. KELLY O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yesterday, Yassir Arafat said in Palestine that he thinks the key to success in the Middle East is the commitment of Americans. KELLY O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Would you as President send American troops to Israel or the West Bank as peacekeepers? KELLY O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let me just take two seconds of my time because I'm the Commander-in-Chief to respond to one thing that was said. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I propose to spend 1.6 trillion dollars on defense between now and the year 2002 and there's less than 1 percent difference between my budget and the Republican budget on defense. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Now, on the Middle East, as you know, I worked very hard for peace in the Middle East. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
The agreement between the Palestinians and the Israelis was signed at the White House and the agreement -- the peace treaty with Jordan, I was -- I went to Jordan to sign that -- to be there. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
But -- and I think the United States can do whatever we reasonably can. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I do not believe Yassir Arafat wants us to send troops to the West Bank. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We have never been asked to send troops to the West Bank. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I saw the agreement that Prime Minister Rabin and Yassir Arafat signed on the West Bank. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It had 26 separate maps they had to sign, literally thousands of delineations of who would do what on the West Bank, and I believe if the parties will get together and in a good-faith manner make that agreement, that they'll be able to do it if we cannot impose a peace on the Middle East. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
My position has always been that the job of the United States was to minimize the risks of peace. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You know, if they asked me to be part of some monitoring force -- as we are in the Sinai and have been since 1978 -- to monitor the peace between Egypt and Israel, frankly, I would have to think about it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I would have to see what they wanted to do, but I don't believe that will be the request. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I think what Mr. Arafat wants us to do is to make sure that everybody honors the agreements they've already made. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's why I brought the leaders to Washington a few days ago. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I think they will, and I think we'll get there. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Don't be too discouraged. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let me, Jason, come back to you a minute because there is a big difference in the defense budget. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We had 7 billion this year and 10 billion more than the president. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
He puts his money in the outyears, and even if he were re-elected, he'd be gone before anything would happen, and nothing is going to happen. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We don't have modernization now. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
If we don't build more B-2 bombers in California and we lost about 500,000 jobs out in California, because of this devastation, these big, big cuts. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We had to make cuts. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We didn't have the cuts the president promised he'd make and then he doubled. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I think we need to go back and take a look. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're increasing defense reasonably -- not too much, but we are increasing defense some -- because we want to be prepared in case somebody here gets called up, Jason. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I would say I didn't hear what Yassir Arafat had to say, but I don't want to -- you know, I think foreign policy, I want to be very careful about, and I'm not here to argue about the President with some ongoing foreign policy matter. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
What I want the President to do, and I think he may have done it, his last statement, call for an unconditional end of the violence and have the parties keep on talking as they should talk and have a resolution. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
The last thing we want to do is commit more forces anywhere. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But let's sort of keep this out of politics because it's pretty dicey right now. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
When the change of government occurred in Israel, the people of Israel were saying we don't want to abandon the peace process. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We want more security. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Then a lot of mutual distrust developed. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
A lot of things happened which maybe shouldn't have happened. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
When I asked Yassir Arafat and Prime Minister Netanyahu to come to Washington and got them together and they talked alone for three hours, I was convinced that they had to have a chance to make that peace. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Again, I'd say if they asked us to play some reasonable role, I don't know how I would respond. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It would depend entirely on what they asked us to do, but the real secret there is for them to abide by the agreements they've made and find a way to trust each other, and they're going to have to spend some time and trust each other. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Prime Minister Rabin gave his life believing that that trust could be materialized, and I still think it can be. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Alright, next question from this section and it is for Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Back in the back. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes, sir, right there. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes sir. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, Oscar Delgado. DELGADO O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Oscar. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Exsmoker for 30 years. DELGADO O 1996 16 Oct 1996
About 30 years ago I was a pack-plus a day man. DELGADO O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Okay? DELGADO O 1996 16 Oct 1996
You mentioned a statement -- you said some time ago that you didn't think nicotine was addictive. DELGADO O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Would you care to -- are you still holding to that statement, or do you wish to recant or explain yourself? DELGADO O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Oh, that's very easy. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
My record going back to 1965 in the Congress, the first vote we had was whether or not you should put a little notice on cigarettes. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
They may be danger -- I voted I for everything since that time. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
In fact, 1992 we had a bill come before us that all the states had to comply or they're going to lose certain money. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We sent it to the Clinton Administration for implementation, and they waited three and a half years. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And during that period about 3,000 young kids every day started smoking. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
So you add it up. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's about three million. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Not until again in 1996 -- I don't want anybody to smoke. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
My brother probably died partly because of cigarettes. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I was asked a technical question. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Are they addictive? Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Maybe they -- they probably are addictive. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I don't know. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm not a doctor. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
You shouldn't smoke. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
You ought to be glad you quit, Oscar, 30 years. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And it seems to me what we need to do is to talk about not only tobacco but drugs, because drug use between 12- and 17-year-olds has doubled in this administration in the last 44 months. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Marijuana use is up 141percent. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Cocaine use up 160 percent. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
They're your kids. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's all happening in this administration because they cut funding and they cut interdiction. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
When I'm President of the United States, we're going to use the National Guard and whatever sources we need to stop some of the drugs coming into America. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
If you stop the drugs, nobody is going to use the drugs; so don't smoke, don't drink, don't use drugs. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Just don't do it. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Oscar, the question of what the federal government should do to limit the access of tobacco to young people is one of the biggest differences between Senator Dole and me. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We did propose a regulation six months after I became President under the law he mentioned. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It simply says all these states -- it made it illegal for kids to smoke. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Now they have to try harder if they want to keep getting federal funds. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Then we took comments, as we always do, and there were tens of thousands of comments as to how we ought to do it. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's what drug it out. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Meanwhile, we started the -- also in '93 to look into whether cigarettes were addictive enough for the Federal Food and Drug Administration to ban the ability of cigarette companies to advertise, market and distribute their products to our kids. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
No president had ever taken on the tobacco lobby before. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I did. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole opposed me. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
He went down and made a speech to people who were on his side saying that I did the wrong thing. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I think I did the right thing. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
On drugs, I have repeatedly said drugs are wrong and illegal and can kill you. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We have strengthened enforcement, and everybody in San Diego knows we strengthened control of the border. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We have done a lot more, and I hope we get a chance to talk about it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, they also know if they live in San Diego, Mr. President, if you're caught with 125 pounds of marijuana or less, you go back to Mexico. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You're not prosecuted. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You have a U.S. attorney here that sends `em back home, so I think that's pretty important. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's a lot of marijuana. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's a big supply. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
But don't get into this smoke screen here Oscar. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
The President in the election year decided I ought to do something, I haven't done anything on drugs. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I've been AWOL for 44 months, so let's take on smoking, see they haven't even done it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
They haven't said what's going to happen, whether they're going to have it declared addictive. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Once it's a drug, does it apply only to teenagers or everybody in America? Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Nobody should smoke, young or old, but particularly young people should not smoke, but my record is there. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's been there. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I've voted eight, ten times since 1965. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Next question is for President Clinton. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It comes from right here. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes, sir. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
MR. FLECK: President Clinton, my name is Jack Fleck. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm retired Air Force pilot. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Sir, it's officially forecast that our annual Medicare and Social Security deficits are measured in the trillions of dollars next century. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Depending on who you listen to, Social Security will be bankrupted in either 2025 or 2030. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I feel this is grossly unfair, especially to our younger generation who are losing faith in the system. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
My question is this: Assuming you agree that our entitlement programs are on an unsustainable course, what specific reforms do you propose? Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
First of all, there are two different things. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Social Security and Medicare are entirely different in terms of the financial stabilities. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let's talk about them separately. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Social Security is stable until, as you pointed out, at least the third decade of the next century. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But we'd like to have a Social Security fund that has about 70 years of life instead of about 30 years of life. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
What we have to do is simply to make some adjustments to take account of the fact that the baby boomers, people like me, are bigger in number than the people that went just before us and the people that come just after us. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I think what we'll plainly do is what we did in 1983 when Senator Dole served, and this is something I think he did a good job on when he served on the Social Security commission and they made some modest changes in Social Security to make sure that it would be alive and well into the 21st century. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And we will do that. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's obvious that there are certain things that have to be done and there are 50 or 60 different options, and a bipartisan commission to take it out of politics, will make recommendations and build support for the people. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Medicare is different. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Medicare needs help now. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I have proposed a budget which would put ten years on the life of the Medicare trust fund. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's more than it's had a lot of the time in the last years. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It would save a lot of money through more managed care, by giving more options, more preventative care and lowering the inflation rate and the prices we're paying providers without having the kind of big premium increases and out-of-pocket costs that the budget I vetoed would provide. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Then that would give us ten years to do with Medicare what we're going to do with Social Security; have a bipartisan group look at what we have to do to save it when the baby boomers retire. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But now we can, we ought to pass this budget now and put ten years on it right away so no one has to worry about it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well again, if you're somebody thinking about the future, I think it's fair to say that it'll be -- we'll work it out. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is a political year, and the President is playing politics with Medicare. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
After this year is over, we'll resolve it just as we did with Social Security in `83. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's a nonpartisan commission. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Ronald Reagan got together with Tip O'Neill and Howard Baker, two Republicans and one Democrat. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
They appointed a commission I was on that commission. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We resolved, we rescued Social Security. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We suggested -- I think it has been over a year ago now -- we do the same with Medicare, and the White House called it a gimmick. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Now last week I guess it was Donna Shalala said well we'll cut Medicare a hundred billion and appoint a commission. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It will probably have to be done by a commission. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Take it out of politics. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I think if I were a senior citizen I would be a little fed up with all these ads scaring seniors, scaring veterans and scaring students about education. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
When you don't have any ideas, you don't have any agenda, and all you have is fear, that's all you can use. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We have ideas in the Dole-Kemp campaign and we will rescue Medicare as we did Social Security. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Their idea was to have the poorest seniors in the country pay $270 more this year. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Their idea was a budget that the that the American Hospital Association said could close 700 hospitals. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Their idea was to charge everybody more out-of-pocket costs in their budget that I vetoed. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Not in an election year, sir. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I told them in early '95. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole said 30 years ago he was one of 12 people who voted against Medicare and he was proud of it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
A year ago he said, "I was right then. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I knew it wouldn't work." William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
American seniors have the highest life expectancy in the world. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We need to reform it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Not wreck it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Next question from here for Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes, ma'am. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Right here. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole my name is Susan Gonzalez. GONZALEZ O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I would like to know what you are -- what would be your first step in reforming welfare? GONZALEZ O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, we've taken the first step. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Took it three steps, twice we sent welfare reform to the president and he vetoed it. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
On the third time we sent welfare reform to the president he signed it but announced he would change it next year, and the vice president said they were going to do something else through the line item veto which I've never understood, but that's sort of inside baseball. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
What we need to do is make certain we try to return people to work. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I'm standing here as someone who, a long time ago as the county attorney in Russell, Kansas, one of our jobs every month was go through all the welfare checks and sign them. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And three of those checks were my grandparents'. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
So I know what it's like to have to look welfare head-on. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Obviously some people are going to need help. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is the United States of America. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
You're not going to go without food and you're not going to go without medical care. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is America. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
But at the same time, if you want to get off Medicare, get back in the mainstream, we're going to provide jobs. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're going to say you have a five-year limit. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You can be on welfare. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You got two years to look for a job. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We provided more money for daycare in the bill that passed the senate, was vetoed, then it came back and the president signed pretty much the same bill. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But this is an important issue. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I don't think we ought to be giving welfare payments to illegal immigrants. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It puts a heavy burden on a state like -- except for emergencies. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It puts a heavy burden on a states like California. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It costs California taxpayers 3 billion dollars a year. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
President Clinton. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let me get out of your way here. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's illegal right now and has been for years for illegal immigrants to get welfare benefits. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let me say that this is one of the most important issues in the world to me. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I started working on welfare reform in 1980 because I was sick of seeing people trapped in a system that was increasingly isolating them and making their kids more vulnerable to get in trouble. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
So I've been working on it when I was a governor for a long time. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
When I became president I used the authority I had in this law to get out from certain federal rules to help states move people to work. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We reduced the welfare rolls by 2 million already. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Now, I've got a plan with this new welfare reform law to work with the private sector, to give employees specific tax incentives to hire people off welfare, and to do some other things which will create more jobs in the private sector, at least a million, and move more people from welfare to work. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's very important. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I hope we get a chance to talk about this more. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
There's not a more important issue. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I, I still remember a woman that I met ten years ago who said she wanted to get off welfare so her kids could tell, give an answer when they say, "What does your mother do for a job?" William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I met that woman again. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
She's got four kids. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
One's got a good job, one's studying to be a doctor. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
One's in technical school, one's an honor student in high school. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I want to make more people like that woman, Lily Harden, so I've got a plan to do it, and it's just beginning. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well another thing we can do. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We talk about growth. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We've got a great economic package which I hope we will discuss later. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Across-the-board tax cut. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Child credits. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
$500 per child under 18. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Reduce the capital gains rate. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Create more jobs and opportunities for people on and off welfare. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We have other provisions. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Less litigation. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
The trial lawyers, big supporters of the president. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
The trial lawyers, of course they like lawsuits, so every time they have a bill that they want vetoed, the president vetoes it for them. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We've got to understand in America that we've got to have growth, create more jobs and more opportunities in the private sector. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
The president takes credit for all these people off welfare. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
The governors did that. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Federal government doesn't do that. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And the government doesn't create jobs. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
They're created in the private sector. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
This section, question? Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes ma'am. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
On the back row. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is for the president. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Mr. President. JOHNSON O 1996 16 Oct 1996
My name is Pamela Johnson and I'm a landlord. JOHNSON O 1996 16 Oct 1996
My question is, does your party have any future plans to reduce the capital gains tax, especially for retired Americans? JOHNSON O 1996 16 Oct 1996
First of all, we have a big plan to reduce the capital gains tax when people sell their homes. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Part of my tax package which is paid for in my balanced budget plan would exempt up to half a million dollars in gains from people when they sell their homes, which I think is the biggest capital gains benefit we could give to most ordinary Americans. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We also have capital gains now for people that invest in new small businesses and hold the investment for five years. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It was part of our other economic plan. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And these are things I think that will go a long way toward helping America build a stronger economy and a better tax system. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I think the most important thing to emphasize, though, is that we also have to help people in other ways to build a strong economy and we can't have any tax cut that's not paid for. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
One of the big differences between Senator Dole and myself is that I told you how I'm going to pay for every penny of the tax cuts I recommend and we've worked hard to bring this deficit down and that's helped people in the real estate business because the interest rates are lower. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We've got home ownership at a 15-year high. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We've got this country going in the right direction. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
So we can have a tax cut but my priority would be to help the families who need it with child rearing and education and buying a first-time home and helping for health care costs. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
So from your business, helping in buying a first-time home, exempting the capital gains on the sale of the home would be the most important things that you asked about. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Thank you, Pamela. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Pam, what the president didn't tell you is all his tax cuts expire the year 2000, but these increases go on forever. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's the liberal approach. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You know, give you a little tax cut, give you a couple of years, then make the tax increases go on forever. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
So the net tax increase in his plan's somewhere between 60 and 80 billion dollars. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We have in the Dole-Kemp economic plan, unless unless your home's worth over 500,000 dollars. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And if it is, I appreciate it congratulate you. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
But in any event, no tax. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's a good idea, they saw it, they picked it up and put it in theirs, but it's only temporary. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Ours are permanent, ours is a good plan. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Create jobs and opportunities. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Capital gains rate, cut it in half, cut it 28 percent to 14 percent. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
There are 7 trillion dollars in assets locked up in America. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
If we cut the capital gains rate, I'm told everyday, I had a letter from a former constituent in Kansas saying I want to sell property in California, put it in my business in Kansas, I can't, because the capital gains rate's too high. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We need to get the economy going. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
That'll help social security. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That'll create more jobs. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That'll help people who want to get off welfare. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's the American way. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Before Senator Dole left the Senate, he and Mr. Gingrich also were recommending that we pass these tax cuts only insofar as we could pay for them. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We all assume that the tax cuts will be permanent. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
But we have to prove we can pay for them. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
After he left the senate, we abandoned that. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's why most experts say that this tax scheme will blow a huge hole in the deficit, raise interest rates and weaken the economy and that will take away all the benefits of the tax cut with a weaker economy. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's why we have to balance the budget, and I will tell you how I'm going to pay for anything I promise you, line by line. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You should expect that from both of us. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
All right. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
The next question is for Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes, ma'am. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Right there. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
My name is Melissa Naudin. _NAUDIN O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm a third-year student at UC, San Diego. _NAUDIN O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I just want to say it's a great honor representing the voices of America. _NAUDIN O 1996 16 Oct 1996
My voice, my question is concerning you, Mr. Dole. _NAUDIN O 1996 16 Oct 1996
All the controversy regarding your age. _NAUDIN O 1996 16 Oct 1996
How do you feel you can respond to young voices of America today and tomorrow? _NAUDIN O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, I think age is very -- you know, wisdom comes from age, experience and intelligence. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And if you have some of each -- and I have some age, some experience and some intelligence -- that adds up to wisdom. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I think it also is a strength. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's an advantage. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I have a lot of young people work in my office, work in my campaign. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is about America. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is about, somebody said earlier, one of the first questions, we're together. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's one America, one nation. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm looking at our economic plan because I'm concerned about the future for young people. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm looking about drugs. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
The president has been AWOL for four years. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm looking about crime. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
He'll claim credit now for crime going down, but it happens because mayors and governors and others have brought crime down. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Rudy Giuliani, Mayor of New York, brought crime down 25 percent just in New York City. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Of course the president will take credit for that. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
My view is we want to find jobs and opportunities and education. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
This year the Republican Congress, as far as student loans went from 24 billion to 36 billion over the next six years. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
A 50 percent increase. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
The highest appropriation. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
6 billion dollars for Pell Grants, very, very important. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We also raised the amount of each Pell Grant. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
In our economic plan, the $500 child credit can be used for young people, rolled over and over and over, you, of course not this age, but if you have a child two years old, 7 percent interest would be worth about $18,000 by the time that child was ready for college. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I can only tell you that I don't think Senator Dole is too old to be president. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's the age of his ideas that I question. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You're almost not old enough to remember this. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
But we tried this before, promising people an election year tax cut that's not paid for. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You tried it last time you ran. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Tell him you can have everything you got. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And so let me just say this. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Did you hear him say that Congress just voted to increase student loans and scholarships? William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
They did after he left. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
The last budget he led cut Pell Grants, cut student loans. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I vetoed it when they shut the government down. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
My plan would give students a dollar-for-dollar reduction for the cost of a typical community college tuition. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
A $10,000 deduction a year for the cost of college tuition. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We let families save in an IRA, withdraw tax free to pay for the cost of education and it's all paid for. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
My whole administration is about your future. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's about what the 21st century is going to be like for you. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I hope you will look at the ideas in it. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Thank you. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
When you don't have any ideas, I guess you say the other person's ideas are old. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
As I said earlier, they don't have any ideas. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Their ideas is to raise taxes and spend more money. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's the liberal philosophy. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's what you like, you've got a perfect candidate. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
President Clinton came to California in 1992. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
He said the centerpiece in my first four years is going to be a middle class tax cut. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Now all you got that tax cut, congratulations. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Because you got a big tax increase. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You got a 265 billion dollar tax increase. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And he stands here and says politicians who make promises like that ought to be ignored. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well he made the promise. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I keep my word, and you will have a tax cut. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It will help you in whatever you're going to do in the next few years. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Thank you. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Next question is for President Clinton and it's from -- yes, ma'am. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Hello. SANDERS O 1996 16 Oct 1996
My name is Tressia Sanders. SANDERS O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And my question is, do you feel that America has grown enough and has educated itself enough to totally cut out Affirmative Action? SANDERS O 1996 16 Oct 1996
No, ma'am, I don't. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I am against quotas. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm against giving anybody any kind of preference for something they're not qualified for. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But because I still believe that there is some discrimination and that not everybody has an opportunity to prove they're qualified, I favor the right kind of Affirmative Action. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I've done more to eliminate Affirmative Action programs I didn't think were fair and tighten others up than my predecessors have, since affirmative action's been around. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But I have also worked hard to give people a chance to prove that they are qualified. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let me just give you some examples. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We've doubled the number of loans from the small business administration, tripled the number of loans to women business people, no one unqualified, everybody had to meet the standards. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We've opened 260,000 new jobs in the military to women since I've been president. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
But the joint chiefs say we're stronger and more confident and solid than ever. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let me give you another example of what I mean. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
To me, Affirmative Action is making that extra effort. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's sort of like what Senator Dole did when he sponsored the Americans with Disabilities Act and said to certain stores, okay, you have to make it accessible to people in wheelchairs. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We weren't guaranteeing anything, anybody anything except the chance to prove they were qualified, the chance to prove that they could do it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And that's why I must say I agree with General Colin Powell that we're not there yet. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We ought to keep making those extra effort Affirmative Action programs, the law and the policy of the land. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, we may not be there yet but we're not going to get there by giving preferences and quotas. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I supported that route for some time and again I think it gets back to experience. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
A little experience, a little age, a little intelligence. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I noted that nobody was really benefitting except a very small group at the top. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
The average person wasn't benefitting. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
People who had the money were benefiting. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
People who got all the jobs were benefiting. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It seems to me that we ought to support the California civil rights initiative. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It ought to be not based on gender or ethnicity or color. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Or disability. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm disabled. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I shouldn't have a preference. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I would like to have one in this race, come to think of it, but I don't get one. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Maybe we can work that out. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I get a 10-point spot. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is America. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
No discrimination. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Discrimination ought to be punished but there ought to be equal opportunity. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We ought to reach out, make certain everybody has a chance to participate. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Equal opportunity. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But we cannot guarantee equal results in America. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's not how America became the greatest country on the face of the earth. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I have never supported quotas. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I've always been against them. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I don't favor equal results, but I do favor making sure everybody has a chance to prove they're competent. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
The reason I have opposed that initiative is because I'm afraid it will end those extra effort programs. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Again I say, think of the Americans with Disabilities Act. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Make an effort to put a ramp up there so someone in a wheelchair can get up. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You don't guarantee they get the job. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You guarantee they have a chance to prove they're competent. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And as I said, this is not a partisan thing with me. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
General Colin Powell said the same thing, he fears the initiative would take away the extra effort programs. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
No preferences to unqualified people, no quotas, but don't give up on making an extra effort until you're sure everybody has a chance to prove they're qualified. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
All right. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
The next question is for Senator Dole and it comes from this section right here. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
The back row there in the blue shirt Yes sir.. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
My name's Tim David. DAVID O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm a mechanical engineer. DAVID O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, how do you reduce taxes and balance the budget? DAVID O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well I'm glad you asked. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
What's your first name? Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Tim. DAVID O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I first want to say the President didn't quite give you all of the stuff on the quotas, because the Justice Department had what we called the Piscataway case up in New Jersey. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's pretty clear that was a quota case, and just because one teacher was white and one black and they had the same qualifications, you know they decided who would stay there. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It shouldn't be that way. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Now, the President can say well he wants to mend it, not end it. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
There are 168 federal programs that allow quotas. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
He ended one. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Now, this economic package, Tim, I'm glad you asked, because you look like the type that might be able to benefit from a 15 percent across- the-board tax cut and $500-per-child tax credit, or -- you know, estate tax relief which you're not interested in right now, but capital gains rate reduction. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
If you're taking care of an elderly parent, you get a $1,000 deduction. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We think that's very important because a lot of people take care of their parents. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
How do we pay for it? Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You can have a constitutional amendment to balance the budget, which the President opposed and defeated. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
He twisted arms and got six Democrats to vote with him and lost by one vote. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're going to balance the budget, by the year 2002. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
The President wants to spend 20 percent more in the next six years, and I want to spend 14 percent more and give that 6 percent back to the people. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Remember, it's your money; it's not his money. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And it's not my money. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's your money. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And you shouldn't have to apologize for wanting to keep all you can of it. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But he ought to apologize for wanting to take more and more. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
He wants to give you sort of a government tax cut, which really doesn't mean anything. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You know, one of the responsibilities of growing older, it seems to me, is being able to tell people something they may not want to hear just because it's true. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
When they had a 250 billion dollar tax scheme, that is half the size of this one. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
This one is 550. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
They passed the budget. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
They have 270 billion dollars in Medicare cuts the first education cuts in history, cut environmental enforcement by 25 percent, took away the guarantee of quality standards in nursing homes, took away the guarantee of health care for folks with disabilities. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Don't take my word for this. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
The Economist magazine polled lots of economists, seven Nobel prize winners who said if this tax scheme passes, it will require huge cuts, 40 percent, in the environment and law enforcement and education. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It will require bigger cuts in Medicare than I vetoed last time. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
My targeted tax cut is for child-rearing, buying a first-time home, paying for health care costs. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And it's paid for, and I'll tell you how I'll pay for it. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
He won't tell you because he can't. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Your targeted tax cut, Mr. President, never hits anybody. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's the problem with it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Nobody ever gets it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
But I must say I'm a little offended by this word "scheme." Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You talked about it last time, you talked about a risky scheme and Vice President Gore repeated it about ten times in St. Petersburg. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
If I have anything in politics, it's my word. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
My colleagues, Democrats and Republicans, will tell you that Bob Dole kept his word. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm going to keep my word to you. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm going to keep my word to the American people. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're going to tax -- cut taxes and balance the budget. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're not going to touch Medicare. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's going to grow 39 percent, and Social Security is going to grow 34 percent. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
The President doesn't have any ideas so he's out trashing ours. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
This isn't going to blow a hole in the deficit. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
He promised you a tax cut in 1992, and if you got one, you ought to vote for him. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
The next question is for the President. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes sir right there. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
My name is Duane Burns. _BURNS O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm a martial arts instructor and a father. _BURNS O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Mr. President, could you outline any plans you have to expand the Family Leave Act? _BURNS O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Thank you, well, first let me say that I signed the Family Leave Act. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It was my very first bill, and I'm very proud of it because it symbolizes what I think we ought to be doing. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I don't take credit for all the good things that have happened in America, but I take credit for what I've tried to do to work with others to make good things happen. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Most important good things that happen in America happen in families. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Just about every family I know, the main concern is how am I going to succeed at work and still do right by my children. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Family medical leave has let 12 million families take a little time off for the birth of a child or a family illness without losing their job. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'd like to see it expanded in two ways. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'd like to say you can also take a little time off without losing your job to go to a regular parent-teacher conference or to go to a regular doctor's appointment with a family member. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'd also like to see the overtime laws change so that we could have some more flex time so that at the discretion of the worker, the worker, if you earn overtime, you could decide when you want that time to be taken, in cash or in time with your family if you've got a family problem. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I never go anywhere, it seems like, where I don't meet somebody who has benefited from a Family Leave Law. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
In Longview, Texas the other day, I met a woman who was almost in tears because she had been able to keep her job while spending time with her husband who had cancer. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
One of the people who's here with me today met a woman in the airport saying her son, Jess was able to be present at the birth of her child because of the Family Leave Law. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
So yes, I think it should be expanded. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We have to help people succeed at home and at work. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, 88 percent of the people -- the President claims 11 million are already covered and only 5 percent -- keep in mind only 5 percent of the employers are affected by the Family Leave Act. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We had a better idea. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We didn't win. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We had a better idea. Robert J. Dole NaN 1996 16 Oct 1996
Now we have a majority and we get a president. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
That was a tax credit for the employer. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Instead of the federal government, we had that tax credit, pick up some of the costs, because if you have to hire a replacement worker, that's a cost. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is the way it ought to work, give more power back to the states and back to the people back to the taxpayers, not always the long arm of the federal government. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
But keep in mind this bill covers 5 percent of the employers, and 95 percent of the employers and all those employees they employ are not covered in this act. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And according to Investors Daily, which I read just a couple of days ago, 88 percent of the people he claims credit for are already covered in collective bargaining agreements or other agreements. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We had family leave in our office, I'm certain. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I see my friend Senator Mitchell. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
He had family leave. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I work every day with people. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I spend a lot of time in hospitals. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I know what it's like to be in a hospital. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Sure we want family leave. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But there's a better way to do it. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I only have 30 seconds. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I can't fix the statistics. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It covers the majority of the work force. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Employers of under 50 are exempted. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
The bill originally covered employers of 25 and more, but because of opposition, we went up to 50. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole led the opposition to it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
He filibustered it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
He said it was a mistake. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
He said it would hurt the economy. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We've had record numbers of new small businesses and 10 and a half million jobs. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It didn't hurt the economy. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
He still believes it's a mistake. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I believe it's right. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You can decide which of us you think are right. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's up to you. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Next question for Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes, ma'am. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Hi. GIANNOTTI O 1996 16 Oct 1996
My name is Bridget Giannotti, and I'm a wife and mother of two sons, from Carlsbad. GIANNOTTI O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And my question to you, Senator Dole, is as the wife of a San Diego business owner, I see one of our biggest problems in the U.S. is it does not manufacture enough of our own products. GIANNOTTI O 1996 16 Oct 1996
How would you help this problem out? GIANNOTTI O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, right. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We've lost 357,000 manufacturing jobs. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
The Bureau of Labor Statistics today said they made a mistake. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's probably going to take a much, much higher figure. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
So we talk about all these new jobs. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We'd better wait and see what the results are. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're going to do that with a more aggressive trade policy. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're going to do that with an economic package. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're going to do that with regulatory reform. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You know, regulations cost the average family right here, Democrat or Republican, about $7,000 a year. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
7,000. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's like a tax. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's put a lot of people out of business. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I met a lady in Colorado Springs about seven weeks ago now. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
She had a small business with 63 employees. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
She finally gave it up. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Why? Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Because of paperwork and regulation. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Congress passed a paperwork reduction act. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
The President exempts the IRS which creates three-fourths of the paperwork. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're going to have regulatory -- we're gonna have litigation reform. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You know, I fell off a platform out in California, Chico, a while back. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Before I hit the ground, my cell phone rang and this trial lawyer said, I think we've got a case here. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
(Laughter). Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We've got to stop some of these frivolous lawsuits. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
They're putting people out of business, men and women. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Get the economy going, cut the capital gains rate, create more jobs and opportunities for everybody in America. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's what we will do. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And my word is good. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I keep my promises. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I don't break my promises after the election, and I don't make new promises in an election year. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're going to get it done. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're going to grow some of these jobs in America, because we need to get it -- they're going the wrong way. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let's look at the facts. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We lost a lot of manufacturing jobs in the 12 years before I became President. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We've gained manufacturing jobs since I've been President. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We've negotiated over 200 separate trade agreements. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let's just take California. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
In California, we made 37 billion dollars' worth of telecommunications equipment eligible for export for the first time. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're selling everything from from -- from telephones to CDs to rice in Japan. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're selling American automobiles in Japan now. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I visited a Chrysler dealership in Japan. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're No.1 in automobile manufacturing production and sales around the world again, the first time since 1970s. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Why? William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Because we've had tough aggressive trade policies, and because we've got interest rates down. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We have a good, stable economic policy. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Because we reduced the deficit four years in a row. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
For the first time in the 20th century the President has done that in all four years and that's why I don't want to see us blow a big hole in the deficit with a tax program we can't pay for, so your interest rates will go up, and you'll have to pay back in higher interest rates what you allegedly will get in a tax cut, so I say keep working on expanding the markets. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
More than half of these 10 and a half million new jobs are in higher wage areas and we'll have more manufacturing and sales around the world. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You may think the biggest employer in America is General Motors, but I've got news for you. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's Manpower Services. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Hiring people temporarily who have lost their jobs and they get to work for 30 days or 60 days. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's a good economy? Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I don't think so. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
They're setting new records this year. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We had the worst economy in a century. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We had the slowest growth, about 2.5 percent. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
The president inherited growth of over 5 percent. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We don't have the S&L crisis anymore. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Republicans have cut 53 billion dollars in spending, that's why the budget looked good. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It didn't look good the first two years when we had a Democratic president and  Democratic Congress. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Next question is for President Clinton. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes, sir. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm Bob Goldfarb. GOLDFARB O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm a travel agent and can you please explain your policy on the Employment Nondiscrimination Act that would have prohibited discrimination, would have prohibited people from being fired from their jobs simply for being gay or lesbian. GOLDFARB O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm for it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's my policy. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm for it. William(Bill) J. Clinton NaN 1996 16 Oct 1996
I believe that any law- abiding, tax-paying citizen who shows up in the morning and doesn't break the law and doesn't interfere with his or her neighbors ought to have the ability to work in our country and shouldn't be subject to unfair discrimination. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm for it. William(Bill) J. Clinton NaN 1996 16 Oct 1996
Now, I have a little time left so let me just say that I get attacked so many times on these questions; it's hard to answer these things. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole just said we had the worst economy in the century. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
In February he said we had the best economy in  30 years, just February. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I don't want to respond in kind to all these things. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I could. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I could answer a lot of these things tit for tat. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But I hope we can talk about what we're going to do in the future. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
No attack ever created a job or educated a child, or helped a family make ends meet. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
No insult ever cleaned up a toxic waste dump or helped an elderly person. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Now, for four years that's what I worked on. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
If you give me four years more I will work on it some more and I will try to answer these charges, but I prefer to emphasize direct answers to the future and I gave you a direct answer. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, I'm opposed to discrimination in any form but I don't favor creating special rights for any group. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That would be my answer to this question. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I'm, you know -- there would be special rights for different groups in America. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But I'm totally opposed to discrimination. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I don't have any policy against hiring anyone; whether it's lifestyle or whatever, we don't have any policy of that kind, never have had in my office or will we have in the future. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
But as far as special rights, I'm opposed to same-sex marriages, which the President signed well after midnight one morning in the dark of night. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I opposed it. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But I will get back to the economic package because, again, I think this is very important. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
If there's anything that's going to change America it's get the economy growing. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
The President inherited a good economy, sure the S&L crisis then were selling assets. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Got a Republican Congress cutting spending finally and he said it's the best four years ever. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's not true. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We had a 1.2 million bankruptcy, set a new record. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Credit card debt has never been higher. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I just told you about this manufacturing job loss which is going to increase. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We need a good strong economic package, let the private sector creates the jobs and they can do it. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
If you believe that the California economy was better in 1992 than it is today, you should vote for Bob Dole. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I have worked so hard out here to help turn this economy around. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let me just give you one tiny example. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
In San Diego where we had some defense cutbacks, we funded a project for the University of California San Diego to use airplane composite materials to build lighter, stronger bridges, a little project in a program that Senator Dole opposed. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And that composite now is going to be built around the bridges on the Santa Monica Freeway to help minimize the impact of earthquakes and create more jobs. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's just one tiny example. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Maybe we will talk about some more before it's over. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Next question's for Senator Dole this section. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes, ma'am. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, I am Bertha Strategos, and I work in health care and it's truly an honor to be here tonight to address both of you. STRATEGOS O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Thank you. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Being in health care -- we have talked about a little bit about health care tonight, but mainly Medi-Cal and Medicare have been mentioned, but the private sector is a problem. STRATEGOS O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Managed care is taking over, especially in California. STRATEGOS O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And because of that, the quality of care is going downhill. STRATEGOS O 1996 16 Oct 1996
There are many, many people who cannot get the tests that they need when they need them, and because of that, they are dying needlessly. STRATEGOS O 1996 16 Oct 1996
There are many, many more lawsuits being presented against the managed care industry because of this. STRATEGOS O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I think it's a real problem that needs to be addressed. STRATEGOS O 1996 16 Oct 1996
What would you do if you were president? STRATEGOS O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, one thing I did was oppose the government takeover health care that President Clinton offered in 1993, which created 17 new taxes and 50 new bureaucracies and price controls, because we were afraid the very thing you mentioned would have happened. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Everybody would have been forced into managed care. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You couldn't have chosen your own doctor and that would have been the end. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I think right now we got to go back. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I know they've appointed a commission to take a look at managed care. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Maybe that's part of the answer. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
But it seems to me if we start to take choices away from people and if we drive them into one type care, eliminate fee-for-service altogether or eliminate the fact you can go to your own doctor, you have to go somewhere else, then I think we've taken a giant step backward in the United States of America. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We have the best health care delivery system in the world and we want to keep it that way. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's why we opposed the government take over health care plan that President Clinton tried and tried and tried to get through Congress. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Didn't get it done. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And ended up we had more votes than he had, then they decided to pull the plug. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It was a big, big mistake. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Now whether or not he'll do that again I've heard some of the people say, well, that's the model we ought to use and if he's reelected maybe he will come back and try it again. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I hope not. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I hope not in both cases. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
But it does seem to me that you've raised a very important point that needs to be addressed. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You're going to have to watch it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Gonna have to take a look at all the managed care going on in California, or we're going to end up losing our best care that we have in the world. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm just curious. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
How many of you are under managed care plans? William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Raise your hand if you're in managed care plan. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
How many of you like it? William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Two. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, one of the things that I tried to do was to make sure that everybody in the country who was under a managed care plan should at least have three choices of plans, and would have the right to get out without penalty every year. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Now that's not a government takeover. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's like the family of medical-leave law; it just tries to set the rules of the game. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm strongly in favor of a federal bill to repeal any gag rules on providers. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
In other words, I believe that doctors should not be able to be kicked out of managed care plans just because they tell the patients what they need and what more expensive care options might be. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
If we're saving money and managing resources better, that's a good thing. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
If we're saving money and depriving people of care, that's a bad thing. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
A good place to start is to say no managed care provider can gag a doctor and kick the doctor out of the managed care plan for the doctor, telling the patient, you need a more expensive test, you need a more expensive procedure, your health requires it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, I don't have any quarrel with that. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I think that would help. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
But I think what we want to avoid is falling back into this nationalized health care system that President Clinton wanted to give us in 1993. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
If that isn't a liberal idea, I've never heard one. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
17 new taxes, price controls, 50 new bureaucracies. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We'd have that trouble all over America. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We need to deal with managed care. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It not only happened in California. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's happening in other states that we visit, too. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's a national problem. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Not just a state problem. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
The next question is for President Clinton in this section. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes, ma'am. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
O'CONNOR: I would sort of like -- Colleen O'Connor. NaN O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I teach history and political science in San Diego Mesa College right up the road here. NaN O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I would like to tee off from the original question by another teacher and speak for those people that aren't here tonight. NaN O 1996 16 Oct 1996
63 percent of the American people are not participating that are eligible to vote, not even participating in the process. NaN O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Several parties can't even get in the debate; the Green Party, the Reform Party, the Natural Law Party, all of these people are basically opted out of what we're still participating in. NaN O 1996 16 Oct 1996
If we in fact are going to bring the country back together and be all faces around the table, the new American family, what do you see as something the president can do to begin that process to bring them back in? NaN O 1996 16 Oct 1996
First of all, I think it's important to make voting more accessible. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's why I strongly supported the Motor Voter law. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
There was a big story I think in U.S.A. Today of the millions of people who have now registered because of it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Secondly, I think we need to look at making the elections more accessible. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You know several states now are letting people vote over three weeks. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
A lot of people are busy and it's hard for them to just get there and vote. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Third thing I think we need is more forums like this, which is one of the reasons I have so strongly supported campaign finance reform. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Because if you want to cut the cost of campaigns, you have to open the airways, because what drives the cost of campaigns are the cost of advertising on television, radio, newspaper, mass mailing. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And if you open the airways to more things like this, you see it's not just you that are participating here. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
For every one of you who stood up here and asked a question tonight, I promise you there's a 100,000 Americans who said I wish I could have asked that question. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
So I think we have to change the nature of politics. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
The last thing I think we should do is something I have been trying to do since I have been president, is every time I do something in a public way, I try to have a real American citizen there who is directly affected by it so that people can see the connection of what happens way across the country, in Washington with more police on the street, in San Diego, clean up the sewage here in San Diego, doubling the border guards here in Southern California, that there is a connection between what we do way back there and what we do here. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Those are my best ideas about it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, I don't know of any perfect solution. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I have been in politics for some time, and I worry about the people who don't vote. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I wonder if it's our fault, the candidates' fault. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
People say, "I don't care. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
One vote doesn't make a difference." Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I can give you hundreds of -- you can probably give me 200 cases where one vote made a difference. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I know it made a lot of difference many times in the Congress. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Campaign finance might help. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It might help the contributions from coming in from Indonesia or other foreign countries, rich people in those countries, and then being sent back after the L.A. Times discovers it, $250,000. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
But maybe there ought to be more debates. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I would be willing to have another debate this year. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We can invite all the candidates. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And talk about the economy. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
If we don't get the economy to grow, if we don't cut taxes, and give people child credits, and cut the capital gains rate, and get this economy growing, we're going to limp into the next century. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
If we grow the economy it's going to help Social Security. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's going to help jobs. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's going to help everything. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let me make one other suggestion, because you're a teacher, you can have an impact on that. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
One of the things I think that really frustrates people is that so often political campaigns seem to be more about the politicians that are running than the people. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And there is a connection. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I think what we have to do is convince people there is a big difference, if you vote one way you will have a Department of Education in the 21st century, if you vote the other way, you won't. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
If you vote one way you will have an expansion of family leave. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
If you vote the other way, you will be lucky to save it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But these are important questions. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And people have to decide. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I think that the American people also need to be a little more responsible and think about whether there's a connection with their lives and what we do in Washington. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
For Senator Dole, in this section, on the back row. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes, ma'am. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm Iris Siefert and I'm unemployed. SIEFERT O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Iris. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Iris. SIEFERT O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, we talked about Social Security for us baby boomers. SIEFERT O 1996 16 Oct 1996
But shouldn't we be saving and investing for our own retirement as well? SIEFERT O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Are you planning any incentives to encourage us to take care of ourselves rather than to rely on the government and on Social Security when we retire? SIEFERT O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, we have in our economic pack, -- individual retirement accounts where we think it will encourage savings. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You can also use those accounts for health care or education or a first home. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're doing that precisely, and I think one thing sooner or later we're going to have to consider is take a look at the Social Security system. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Because we've got a lot of people advocating we don't want to put our money into Social Security. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You have to be very careful of that because you have to protect the people who are already in the pipeline. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's something you might consider. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm not suggesting it will be done, but at least we ought to look at it. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's been looked, When I was chairman of the finance committee which handled Social Security we looked at all these options, and one thing we've got to make certain, when I used to go home my mother would tell me all I've got is my Social Security, don't touch it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And we didn't touch it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We preserved it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I'm an optimist. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Your your Social Security is going to be there when you retire. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We will fix it. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It will probably happen in the year 2012 or 2015. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
In 1983 we thought we had a 75 -year fix. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It didn't work. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Much, much less, but at least we fixed it for some time and 37 to 40 million people get their checks on time. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
So we need to preserve the system. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And we need to make it stronger. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But we also need to look at some options, whether or not we -- depending on what the options are. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
In fact, they have got a commission right now in Congress, a bipartisan commission, looking at all the different options they will present to the next Congress. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
so I think we will wait, see what they present, take a look at it. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Iris, this is one where we have some agreement, I think. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Only about half the people in this country have pension plans. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And Social Security is not enough for a lot of people to live on, or at least is not enough for them to maintain anything like their previous lifestyle. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
So we've got to figure out how are we going to have more people with pension plans, and pension coverage has been declining as more and more people work for small businesses and fewer people work for big businesses. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
So what, what is in my plan and I think it's almost identical in Senator Dole's plans is we make more people eligible to save in an IRA and let couples, married couples save more and then they could withdraw from it tax-free if they needed to, for medical emergencies or buy a home or education, but they could also save to supplement retirement. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
In addition to that, we just passed a sweeping small business reform that makes it easier for small business people to take out 401 K plans for themselves and employees and much easier for employees to carry it from job to job. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
My best friend from grade school is a computer software salesman and he told me last time he changed employers it took him nine months to figure out how to transfer his 401K plan. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Now none of that will happen anymore. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I hope over the next ten years you will see a big increase over the percentage of people that have pension plans, plus a secure Social Security system. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Did you say you're unemployed? Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes. SIEFERT O 1996 16 Oct 1996
See, the first thing we have to do is get you a job. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And that's the economic package again. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Create jobs and opportunities. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Reduce the capital gains rate. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Reduce regulatory reform. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Stop some of this senseless litigation and let people work in America. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I think that's that's the thrust we will make. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Obviously if Social Security is a very important program, it should -- it will be preserved. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Democrats or Republicans, it will be preserved. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We want to make certain we protect those in the pipeline just as we did back in 1983 and we did it on a bipartisan basis. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We took it out of politics. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
people get so tired of politics. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We ought to do the same with Medicare. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Maybe we can make a deal here tonight. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
All right. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
The question's is for President Clinton. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Does anybody have a foreign affairs question in this section? Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes, sir. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Good evening. Howard Smith O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm Michael Smith. Howard Smith O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm an electronics technician in the Navy. Howard Smith O 1996 16 Oct 1996
My question was how you plan to deal with the trade deficit with Japan. Howard Smith O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let me tell you what we have done. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We have concluded with Japan 21 -- about to be 22 -- trade agreements now. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And since we did that, in the areas where we concluded, trade agreements or exports to Japan have gone up by 85 percent in the last four years and our trade deficit with Japan has gone down. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Until about five months ago the Japanese economy was in a deep recession. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's coming back now, so they can buy even more American products, and I think it will go down more. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
But I'm very -- that's one of the real success stories here of the work we've done. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're selling Japanese rice from California for the first time. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I visited a Chrysler dealership in Tokyo. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I visited a Jeep plant, oldest plant in America, a plant in Toledo, Ohio, where they're going to export 41,000 right hand drive Jeeps this year, and they've got 700 new jobs because of it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
There's no easy way to do this when you're dealing with an economy that's traditionally been more closed than one that's traditionally been more open. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You have to gut it out, issue by issue by issue. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We agreed in principle on an insurance agreement, and we're working on three or four other areas now, but the way you have to do it is make sure you're competitive. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're the most competitive country in the world now, and then just fight to open those markets and go try to make the sale, and that's what our trade ambassador our commerce secretary and all the other people in our administration are trying to do. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, the bottom line is we have to stop exporting jobs here. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
There are 357, 000 good jobs -- manufacturing jobs, which are lost. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I assume some of those are because of our trading partners. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We didn't have access to their markets. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We ought to insist on access. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
If we don't have access to their markets the same way they've access our markets, we ought to say, "Wait, that's enough. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Time out. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
When you give us access, we'll give you access." Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's very hard to get into the Japan market, as everybody knows. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
They want to get into our market. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
They sell a lot of automobiles here, create a lot of jobs -- those who sell exports. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And that's very important to the economy, but I think we want to make certain. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I supported the President's trade policy. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
But we got to be more aggressive. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Once you have a policy, then you have to go out and be aggressive and enforce that policy. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
There are American jobs that are being lost. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is what Ross Perot complains about. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I'd say to the Reform party, take a look at the Republican party. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're the reform party, and we're going to make things better, and one of the things we're going to do is stop exporting jobs. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let me say again, we've had over 200 separate trade agreements in the last four years. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
By far, the largest number in American history -- not just the big ones you read about, but a lot of smaller ones. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And now what we have to do is to focus on those things we're real good at and make sure we're getting a fair deal. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We just had a pretty serious dispute with China because they were copying our CDs, and costing thousands of jobs in places like California. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
So we have -- as we said, if you want to keep doing business and selling your products over here, you're going to have to quit pirating our CDs, and they agreed to do things and verify that they had done it, which will make the problem much better. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
There is not a simple answer. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
You have to work on this day in and day out, every month ,every year, every issue, to make sure that we have not only free trade but fair trade. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm proud that we're better off on that than we were four years ago. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
The next question is for Senator Dole -- in this section. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes, sir? Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Rod Kite, minister. KITE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Hi, Rod. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
This great nation has been established by the founding fathers who possessed a very strong Christian belief in godly principles. KITE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
If elected president of the United States, what could you do to return this nation to these basic principles? KITE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And also, do you feel that the president -- the office of president has the responsibility to set the role example to inspire our young people? KITE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well no doubt about it, our founding fathers had a great deal of wisdom. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
In addition to what you mentioned, they also were concerned about this all-powerful central government in Washington, D.C., that'd in effect confiscate your property, so -- I carry it in my pocket -- I can't pull it out or I'd violate the rules -- a copy of the Tenth Amendment which says we ought to return power to the states and the people, the people here. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
You ought to make more decisions. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Honor, duty, and country, that's what America is all about. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Certainly the President of the United States, the highest office in the world, the most important office in the world, has a responsibility to young people, as we talked about earlier. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
To everyone. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
By example. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And when it comes to public ethics, he has a responsibility. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And you have 30-some in your administration, either left or being investigated or in jail or whatever, then you've got an ethical problem. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is public ethics; I'm not talking about private ethics. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Talking about public ethics. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
When you have 900 files gathered up by some guy who is a bouncer in a bar and hired a security officer to collect files, in Watergate -- I know a person who went to jail for looking at one file, one FBI file. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
There are 900 sequestered in the White House. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
900. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
People like you. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Why should they be rifling through your files? Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
The president has a great responsibility. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's one that I understand and certainly will carry out. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is the most religious, great country in history. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And yet, interestingly enough, we have the most religious freedom of any country in the world, including the freedom not to believe. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And now we have all these people just up the road in Los Angeles County, we have people from 150 different racial and ethnic groups and tons of different religions, but the fundamental tenets of virtually every religion are the same, and what I try to do is to support policies that would respect religion and then help parents inculcate those values to their children. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let me very briefly give you some examples. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
One of my proudest moments was signing the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, that says the government has got to bend over backwards before we interfere with religious practice. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
So I changed the Justice Department's effort to get a church to pay back a man tithe, because he was bankrupt when he gave it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I have supported character education programs in our schools, drug-free schools programs. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I supported giving parents a V-chip on their television so if they don't want their young kids to watch things they shouldn't watch, they wouldn't have to. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That is the kind of thing we have to do, give people like you and our families the power to give those values to our children. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I think it's -- before I came in, my wife and daughter and I had a prayer. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Because it's God's will, whatever happens. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's God's will, it'll happen. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
The constitutional amendment for voluntary prayer in school, in my view would be a great idea. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
the president opposes it. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It seems to me the president, whoever the president may be, this is one of his highest responsibilities. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
People look to the President of the United States more than any other person in America. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And that's the way it's always been, and that's the way it always will be. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
All right. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is our last question. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It goes to President Clinton and it's from this section. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Yes, ma'am. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
My name is Yvette Dube and I too am a minister. DUBE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm with the Universal Metropolitan Community Churches. DUBE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
President Clinton, perhaps you can help me with something tonight. DUBE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I heard Mr. Dole say several times "all of us together," and when he was asked if he would support equal rights and employment for gay and lesbian people, you said that you favored that, and he said that he did not believe in special rights. DUBE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I thought the question was equal rights for all people. DUBE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I don't understand why people are using the term "special rights" when the question is "equal rights." DUBE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Could you help me in understanding that? DUBE O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I want to answer your question, but let me say one other thing. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We don't need a constitutional amendment for kids to pray, and what I did was to have the justice department and the education department for the first time ever issue a set of guidelines that we gave to every school in America, saying that children could not be interfered with in religious advocacy when they were praying, when they were doing whatever they could do under the constitution, just because they were on a public school ground, and I think anyone who's experienced this will tell you that our administration has done more than any in years to clarify the freedom of religion in the public square, including in the public schools. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Now, I think I have to let Senator Dole speak for himself. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
It wouldn't be fair for me to do that. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I would wind up -- I mean, it's the last question and I would mischaracterize it to try to make you happy. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let me tell you what I feel. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We have a lot of differences in our country, and some of us believe that other people's decisions are wrong, even immoral. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
But under our constitution, if you show up tomorrow and obey the law, and you work hard and you do what you're supposed to do, you are entitled to equal treatment. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
That's the way the system works. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
All over the world, people are being torn apart -- Bosnia, the Middle East, Northern Ireland, Rwanda, Burundi -- you name it -- because of all their differences. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We still have some of that hatred inside us. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You see it in the church burnings. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And one of the things I've tried hardest to do is to tell the American people that we have to get beyond that, we have to understand that we're stronger when we unite around shared values instead of being divided by our differences. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, I hope I made my answer clear. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I said I'm opposed to discrimination. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
You know we've suffered discrimination in the disability community. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
There are 43 million of us. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I can recall cases where people would cross the street rather than meet somebody in a wheelchair. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
So we want to end discrimination. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I think that answers itself. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
No discrimination in America. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We've made that clear. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I would just say that it seems to me that that's the way it ought to be. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We shouldn't discriminate -- race, color, whatever -- life-style, disability. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is America. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And we're all proud of it. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
But we're not there yet. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
What we need is good, strong leadership going in the next century. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I'm sorry we didn't have a foreign policy question, because just this week Secretary Christopher said, "Well, we really didn't know much the first couple of years about foreign policy." Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Now that was quite an admission. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It underscores what I had to say in the Hartford debate, that there is really no foreign policy in this administration. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's sort of ad hoc, just whatever comes up, we'll deal with it. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Unfortunately, we didn't have more questions on that. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Let me say again, there is no more important responsibility for the president than to say if you believe in the constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the Declaration of Independence, that's all we need to know. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And you can be part of our America and you can walk across that bridge to the 21st century with us. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And we are not well served when we attack each other in a kind of ad hominem way. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It doesn't create jobs. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It doesn't educate children. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
It doesn't solve problems. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
We need to be disagreeing on ideas, honestly, and talking about the future. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
The future will be the greatest time in this country's history if we can beat this division that is bedeviling the whole rest of the world. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
All right. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Now we go to the closing statement. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, you're first. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Two minutes, sir. Jim Lehrer O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Well, let me thank everybody here at the University and, Jim, thank you. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
All the people who may still be watching or viewing. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is what it's all about. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's not about me. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's not about President Clinton. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's about the process. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's about selecting a president of the United States. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
So we have our differences. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We should have our differences. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Mentioned other parties. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
They have their differences. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We all agreed it would be a pretty dull place. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We should have more debates. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Maybe we will have another debate on the economy. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
But I would just say this. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is the highest honor that I have ever had in my life, to think that somebody from Russell, Kansas, somebody who grew up living in a basement apartment, someone whose parents didn't finish high school, somebody who spent about 39 months in hospitals after World War II, someone who uses a buttonhook every day to get dressed. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Somebody who understands that there're real Americans out there with real problems, whether soccer moms, or the single parents, the families or the seniors, or people with disabilities, whoever it may be. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
There are some very fundamental differences in this campaign. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
President Clinton opposes term limits, President Clinton opposes a constitutional amendment to balance the budget. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
President Clinton opposes voluntary prayer amendment. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Opposes an amendment to protect the flag of the United States of America. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
People give their lives. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Couple of service men here. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
They sacrifice, they give everything for America. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
We ought to protect the American flag with a constitutional amendment. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
But beyond that we need to address the economy. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I will just say my time is running out here. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's a very proud moment for me. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
What I want the voters to do is to make a decision. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I want them to be proud of their vote in the years ahead. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Proud that they voted for the right candidate. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Proud that they voted hopefully for me. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
And I'll just make you one promise, my word is good. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Democrats and Republicans said Bob Dole's word is good. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
I keep my word. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
I promise you the economy is going to get better. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're going to have a good economic package. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
We're going into the next century a better America. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Thank you. Robert J. Dole O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Thank you, Jim. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
And thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and all the people who are watching. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
One thing I would like to say is I agree with what Senator Dole said. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
It's a remarkable thing in a country like ours, a man who grew up in Russell, Kansas, and one who was born to a widowed mother in Hope, Arkansas, could wind up running for president. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Could have a chance to serve as president. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
First thing I want to say is thank you for giving me the chance to be president. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
This election is about two different visions about how we should go into the 21st Century. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Would we be better off as I believe, working together to give each other the tools we need to make the most of our God-given potential, or are we better off saying, you're on your own? William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
Would we be better off building that bridge to the future together so we can all walk across it or saying you can get across yourself? William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
If you don't agree -- leave this room with anything else tonight and if the people watching us don't leave with anything else, I hope you will leave with this. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
This is a real important election. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
The world is changing dramatically in how we work and how we live, how we relate to each other, huge changes. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
And the decisions we make will have enormous practical consequences. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
So we've talked about our responsibility tonight. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
I want to talk about your responsibility, and your responsibility. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Your responsibility is to show up on November the 5th. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Because you're going to decide whether we're going to balance the budget now, but protect Medicare, Medicaid, education and the environment. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 16 Oct 1996
You will decide whether we're going to keep fighting crime with a Brady Bill, assault weapons and finish putting those 100,000 police. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Whether we're going to move a million people from welfare to work. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Whether we're going to give our families more protection for their kids against drugs and tobacco and gangs and guns. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Whether we're going to give our children a world-class education. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Where every eight-year-old can read. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Every 12-year-old can log in on the Internet. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Every 18-year-old can go to college. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
If we do those things we will build that bridge to the 21st Century and the greatest country in history will be even greater. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 16 Oct 1996
Thank you. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 16 Oct 1996
Good evening from the Mahaffey Theater at the Bayfront Center in St. Petersburg, Florida. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I'm Jim Lehrer of the "News Hour" on PBS. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Welcome to the 1996 Vice Presidential Debate between Vice President Al Gore, the democratic nominee, and Jack Kemp, the republican nominee. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
This event is sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The rules and format, as drawn and agreed to by the two campaigns are almost identical to those of the presidential debate last Sunday night in Hartford. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is 90 minutes long. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The candidates are not permitted to question each other directly. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I will ask the questions with no limitations on the subjects. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
There will be a 90-second answer, a 60-second rebuttal, and a 30-second response to each question. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
And with the help of some lights, I will help the candidates abide by those time limits. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The order for everything was determined by a coin toss. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
There will be three-minute closing statements, but no opening statements. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
So, we go now to the first question and to Mr. Kemp. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Some supporters of Senator Dole have expressed disappointment over his unwillingness in Hartford Sunday night to draw personal and ethical differences between him and President Clinton. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
How do you feel about it? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Wow, in 90 seconds? Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I can't clear my throat in 90 seconds. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Jim, Bob Dole and myself do not see Al Gore and Bill Clinton as our enemy. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We see them as our opponents. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
This is the greatest democracy in the world. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
People are watching not only throughout this country, but all over the world as to how this democracy can function with civility and respect, and decency and integrity. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bob Dole, um, is one of those men who served in the United States Senate, his public life is a public record. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He fought on the battlefield. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He has worked with Democrats and Republicans. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
In my opinion, it is beneath Bob Dole to go after anyone personally. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Clearly, Abraham Lincoln put it best when he said you serve your party best by serving the nation first. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
And I can't think of a better way of serving this nation in 1996 than by electing Bob Dole as the President of the United States of America. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
These issues are fully capable of being understood and reflected upon by the American people. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
This is a democracy in which we have the freest press and the greatest First Amendment rights in the history of mankind. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
And Bob and I respect that. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
These issues will be aired, but they'll be aired with dignity and respect, and, ultimately, leave it to the American people to make up their minds about who should be the leader of this country into the 21st Century. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Vice President? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Thank you, Mr. Lehrer. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
And I would like to thank the people of St. Petersburg for being such wonderful hosts. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
My family and I are very glad to be here and I would like to thank Jack Kemp for the answer that he just gave. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I think we have an opportunity tonight to have a positive debate about this country's future. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I'd like to start by offering you a deal, Jack. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
If you won't use any football stories, I won't tell any of my warm and humorous stories about chlorofluorocarbon abatement. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
It's a deal. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I can't even pronounce it. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
What I do want to talk about tonight is Bill Clinton's positive plan for America's future. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have a plan to balance the budget while protecting Medicare, Medicaid, education and the environment. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Creating millions of new jobs, including one million new jobs in America's inner cities. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
I'm excited about the chance to talk about this plan and even more excited about the chance to work on it, if you, the people of this country, will give Bill Clinton and me the privilege of doing so for four more years. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I really got only two differences with Bill Clinton -- Â President Clinton and Mr. Gore, foreign policy and domestic policy. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Our foreign policy is ambivalent, confusing, it is sending strong signals to the wrong people, and we have learned over the years that weakness is provocative, but domestic economy is not doing what it can do. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
This President believes we are at our capacity. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bob Dole and I believe we can do a lot better. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is about the potential of the American people to lift themselves up and not have their lives controlled by the United States Government and Washington. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Vice President, what do you see as the political philosophy differences in a general way between you and President Clinton on the one hand, Mr. Kemp and Senator Dole on the other? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The differences are very clear. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have a positive plan based on three principles. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We want to provide opportunity for all Americans. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We insist on responsibility being accepted in turn by everyone, and we want to strengthen our communities and their ability to support families and individuals in our common effort to create a bright future. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Here's how we plan to do that: We have a balanced budget plan that has targeted tax cuts for middle-income families. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've already given tax cuts to 15 million of the hardest pressed working families in America. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Our plan for the next four years features a $1,500 tax credit, called a Hope Scholarship, for tuition at community college, junior college or college. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
A $10,000 tax deduction for college tuition for those who go further, so that, in essence, no American family will ever be taxed on the money they spend for college tuition. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Also, tax relief for first-time home buyers, tax encouragement for savings and help in paying health care expenses, and a tax break, actually, the elimination of capital gains taxes on the -- on the profits from the sale of a home. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
All of this is within a balanced budget plan, which protects Medicare, Medicaid, education and the environment. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Jim, this economy is overtaxed, overregulated, too many people suing each other, there's too much litigation. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Our education is not up to the standards that the American family and the American people want for their children. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
And, clearly, the welfare system is a disgrace to our Judeo-Christian principles. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is not the values of the poor that should be called into question, it is the values of the welfare system from Washington and uh that prevent people from climbing out of poverty. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Our biggest debate with this administration on domestic policy is that they think we're at our fullest capacity, that we’ve reached our potential and 2.5 percent growth is enough for America. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Frankly, that is not good enough for this country. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We can not just run the clock out on the 20th Century. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It, clearly, we need to lower the tax rate across the board on working and saving and investing. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
I know my friend, Al, will suggest that is trickle-down economics. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, Al, if it's trickle-down economics, ask Van Woods, a young entrepreneur who owns a restaurant in Harlem, if it's trickle down. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He said he would hire 60 more people if we cut the Capital Gains Tax. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
I talked about our positive agenda for the future a moment ago. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Your original answer was about the contrast. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The plan from Senator Dole and Mr. Kemp is a risky, $550-billion tax scheme that actually raises taxes on 9 million of the hardest pressed working families. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It would blow a hole in the deficit, cause much deeper cuts in Medicare, Medicaid, education and the environment and knock our economy off track, raising interest rates, mortgage rates and car payments. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We stopped that plan before. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We will stop it again. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We want a positive plan for growth and more jobs. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp, back to the philosophy question. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Do you think there's a basic philosophy difference between these two tickets, or is it about specifics, which both of you have talked about? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, this is a perfect example. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bob Dole and I want to cut the tax rates across the board on each and every American, working, saving, investing and taking risks in America. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
All wealth is created, and all growth is generated by risk-taking entrepreneurs. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
The tax rate on capital in America is way too high. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It's too high on the family and it's particularly too high on working men and women. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
The average family in America, at median level of income, probably is spending 25 to 26 percent of their income sent to the federal government. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's more than shelter, food, clothing, and energy. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's just not right. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
When I was growing up in Los Angeles, my parents were a one working family, one breadwinner per family was all that was necessary. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Now if a woman wants to go to work or a man wants to go to work, it ought to be their choice, not the choice of the Washington, D.C. establishment. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bill Clinton, the President, and Al Gore, suggest that they'll give us a tax cut, but only if we do exactly what they want us to do. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
That isn't America. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's social engineering. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
The tax code should reflect our values in a Judeo-Christian sense, that work, honesty and integrity and contracts and property and investment and savings should be rewarded, and Bob Dole and Jack Kemp are not only going to cut the tax rates across the board and lower the Capital Gain Tax. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
I'll be glad to talk about it a little later, because there's not enough time, but we are going to repeal the 83-year-old code and replace the seven and a half million words with a flatter, fairer, simpler code that will take this country roaring in the 21st Century. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
This risky tax scheme would blow a hole in the deficit. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
You don't have to take my word for it. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
"Time," "Newsweek," "U.S. News & World Report," "Business Week," 83 percent of hundreds of economists in a random survey just recently all said it would blow a hole in the deficit. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
There's another feature I would like to hear Mr. Kemp speak about. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Just before he joined Senator Dole on the ticket, he said that the plan -- the part of the plan that raises taxes on 9 million of the hardest working families in America was unconscionable, that means it's wrong and it shouldn't happen. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
I agree, it is still part of the plan. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We believe that taxes should not be increased on those families. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have a plan to cut taxes on middle income families within a balanced budget plan, eliminating the deficit and protecting Medicare, Medicaid, education and the environment. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Every time this country in the 20th Century has cut tax rates across the board, revenues went up, the economy grew, and I am surprised at this point in his career that Vice President Gore and the President cannot understand that you get more revenue from a bigger pie, and clearly, creating more jobs reduces the social welfare drain, clearly makes more opportunity for capital to be invested in our inner cities. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
And frankly, Al, we shouldn't just tinker with the Capital Gain Tax, we should eliminate it in the inner cities of America to put capital to work to make democratic capitalism and jobs available in our inner cities of the United States. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Vice President, should federal government Affirmative Action programs be continued? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Yes. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
President Clinton addressed this issue when he said, "Mend it, don't end it." Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Diversity is a great strength in America. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Look around the world at other places where they have not paid attention to the necessity of promoting harmony of, between different ethnic, racial and religious, and cultural groups. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We ought to be very proud in our country, as most Americans are, that we've made tremendous progress, but we ought to recognize that we have more work to do. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Now, the first thing that we are trying to do is to create a million new jobs in the inner cities of this country, with tax credits for employers who hire people who are now unemployed. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We are seeking to have vigorous enforcement of the laws that bar discrimination. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Now, I want to congratulate Mr. Kemp for being a lonely voice in the Republican party over the years on this question. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is -- it is with some sadness that I refer to the fact that the day after he joined Senator Dole's ticket, he announced that he was changing his position and was hereto, thereafter going to adopt Senator Dole's position to end all affirmative action. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's not good for our country. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bill Clinton and I believe that the United States of America has its brightest days ahead, and we will see them even brighter if we promote diversity and harmony among all our people. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Jim, my position on Affirmative Action has been clear ever since I left the professional football career for Congress in 1970. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Some people think I quit playing a few years earlier, but I retired in 1970. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
My life has been dedicated to equality of opportunity and our democracy should provide that, not equality of reward. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Uh, Affirmative Action should be predicated upon need, not equality of reward, not equality of outcome. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Quotas have always been against the American ideal. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We should promote diversity and we should do it the way Bob Dole has been talking about, with a new civil rights agenda, based upon expanding access to credit and capital, job opportunities, educational choice in our inner cities for a young urban mother who can't get the type of an education she wants for her child, and, ultimately, the type of ownership and entrepreneurship from public housing in, D.C. to Nickerson Gardens in Watts, Los Angeles. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
People need to own. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
And that's what Abraham Lincoln believed. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That when people own something, they have a stake in the American dream. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That is Affirmative Action in America. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Vice President. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
With all due respect, I do not believe that Abraham Lincoln would have adopted Bob Dole's position to end all affirmative action. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
There is a specific measure on the ballot in California. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
It was embodied in legislation, introduced by Senator Dole, to apply to the whole nation. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp campaigned against it, spoke against it, wrote letters against it, went to California to fight against it, and now has endorsed it. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I don't think it's a minor matter. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I think this is one of the most important challenges that our country has to face in the future, and I hope that Mr. Kemp will try to persuade Senator Dole to adopt Mr. Kemp's position, instead of the other way around. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp, what is your position? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
That red light means we're supposed to stop? Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Right. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
You thought that was going to be your problem, not mine. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
[ Laughter ] Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Yeah, right. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I can't believe I'm keeping within the time limit. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp, do we have a serious race problem in the United States right now? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Yeah, we really do. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Um, this country has yet to deal with the type of inclusionary policies. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is so very important for Americans, white and black, Jew and Christian, immigrant and native-born, to sit down and talk and listen and begin to understand what it's like to come from that different perspective. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Our country is as the Kerner Commission Report suggested a number of years ago was being split, but they said between white and black. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
I think it's being split, Jim, not so much between white and black, although that's still a very serious problem. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We really have two economies. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Our general economy, our national economy, our mainstream economy is democratic, is based on incentives, a small "d" Al, it's capitalism and incentives for working and saving and investing and producing, and families and the things that really lead to progress up that ladder that we call "The American Dream," but is what is really universal. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
But unfortunately, in urban America, and I was glad to hear the Vice President talk a little bit about it, uh there -- they have abandoned the inner cities. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
There's a socialist economy. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
There's no private housing. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
There's mostly public housing. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
You're told where to go to school, you're told what to buy with food stamps. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is a welfare system that is more like a third-world socialist country than what we would expect from the world's greatest democratic free-enterprise system. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
That must change, and it will under Bob Dole and Jack Kemp. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Remember what I said just a moment ago. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
If it were not so, he would have told you. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The problems between races in America must be addressed. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
The good news is we're making progress. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've seen 10.5 million new jobs created in the last four years. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've seen the unemployment rate come down dramatically. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've seen the African-American unemployment rate go below double digits for the first time in 25 years and it stayed below for 25 months in a row. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have empowerment zones and enterprise communities, 105 of them in communities all across the United States of America. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Let me tell you a story about Joann Crowder in Detroit. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
She was on welfare for eight years until the empowerment zone was created there. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
She just got a job in the new business that -- that launched its enterprise right in that empowerment zone. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We want to do that for millions more all across the country. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, with all due respect, Jim, there are nine empowerment zones, a few little tinkering with tax credits around the country for inner cities. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Los Angeles, after the riots, did not even get an empowerment zone, believe it or not. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That is just unconscionable in America to have left Watts, South Central and East L.A. out. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Earl Graves of "Black Enterprise" magazine said the single greatest deterrent to black advancement is the lack of access to capital, the credit and ownership. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That will change. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We will green-line every city in the United States where there is unemployment and welfare and we will eliminate the Capital Gains Tax, eliminate the tax on a welfare mother that takes a job. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
That is the answer. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Give ownership and entrepreneurship to low income people based on need, not the color of their skin. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Vice President, if re-elected, what would, what could we look forward to in the way of an inner city policy from a Clinton/Gore second term? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Before I answer that specific question, let me say that we did put an empowerment zone in South Central, Los Angeles. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is in the form of the largest community development financial institution ever created in the United States or in any other country and it is creating jobs in South Central, Los Angeles right now. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
The Congress passed uh an enterprise zone after the Los Angeles riots five years ago. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It was vetoed by the prior administration. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Now, to your question. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have a specific plan to create 1 million new jobs in the inner cities of America with tax credits for employers who hire people coming off welfare, 'cause we've passed welfare reform now, we promised to end welfare as we know it. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
And we are implementing this new legislation. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have moved 1.9 million people off of the welfare rolls and into good jobs in the last four years. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Our new plan is to have 1 million more jobs in the inner cities, but that's not all. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We are also implementing the plan to put 100,000 community police officers in our cities. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've already got 20,000 out there. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We're ahead of our six-year schedule. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
As a matter of fact, there're 8 here in St. Petersburg, already on the beat, you may run into one of them leaving this auditorium tonight. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
St. Petersburg is safer because of this urban agenda that we're following. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We want the focus to be on millions more jobs, and we're very optimistic that it's gonna happen. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, we've had four years and there's no enterprise zone. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
There are empowerment zones, but you have to do what Bill Clinton and Al Gore want you to do. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
You get a $5,000 tax credit if you hire somebody that's unemployed, but you've already got to have an existing business. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
The answer is to say, once again, green-line any area in America that has been red-lined for lack of mortgage money, lack of credit and capital. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Just say that area qualifies for no Capital Gains Tax, zero, nada. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's what Eleanor Holmes Norton wants to do in the District of Columbia and this administration said to D.C., Drop dead. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Drop dead. Jack F. Kemp NaN 1996 09 Oct 1996
We don't want to change the legislation that would lower the tax rate in D.C., allow welfare mothers to take a job without any tax on the first 90 percent of her income and no Capital Gain Tax that should be done in every urban area of America that would make capital flow back, and you can't have capitalism, Al, without capital. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
You may want to give a tax credit, but it won't work. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, we have 105 empowerment zones and enterprise communities all across the United States of America, and with all due respect, that's 105 more than were there when we came into the White House. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have been implementing them in a determined way. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
They are making a difference. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
You know, that empowerment zone that I mentioned in Detroit is creating jobs not only for Joann Crowder, who feels proud that she's off of welfare now, and we're proud of her. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
It's creating jobs for hundreds of others, and similar initiatives are working in the other empowerment zones. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp, you said recently that one of the problems related to this was that all the capital was in the hands of the white people. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
What did you mean by that? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The single greatest problem in our opinion, domestic -- in the domestic economy, is that this tax code, 83 years old, a relic of the Cold War and Hot War, inflation and depression, seven-and-a-half million words long, overtaxes capital, overtaxes working men and women and families. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Clearly, the Gordian knot needs to be broken in one fell swoop. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bob Dole and Jack Kemp, as soon as we get through this first step of cutting tax rates across the board, are going to repeal the whole code while Bill Clinton and my friend, Al Gore, defend the status quo. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We're going to repeal the seven-and-a-half million words of the U.S.tax code, make it tax income once, not twice, three, four, and if you die, it confiscates your estate. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We must have a tax code going into the 21st Century that does not protect the establishment and this tax code does. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
And by cutting and eliminating the Capital Gains, by cutting and eliminating the Estate Tax, by bringing the top tax rate down to something reasonable, like -- here he goes again -- I think in peacetime, it shouldn't be higher, Bob, and I don't think it should be higher than 25 percent, phased in. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
But capital would flow out into the economy. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have people getting access to capital. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Small businessmen and women, African-American, Asian Americans, Latino Americans, female Americans would be able to start their businesses. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Dana Crist of Lancaster said the day the tax bill is passed in Congress, she will open a new factory with 40 or 50 or 60 employees in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He'll call that trickle down. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I'll call it Niagara Falls. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The problem with this version of Niagara Falls is that Senator Dole and Mr. Kemp would put the economy in a barrel and send it over the falls. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
[ Laughter ] It is a risky, $550-billion tax scheme that actually raises taxes on 9 million of the hardest working families. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Again, Mr. Kemp opposed that and called it unconscionable. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Now, it is part of the plan that he is supporting. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Not only that, though, it would blow a hole in the deficit, it would raise interest rates. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
That means higher mortgage payments, particularly those with the variable rate mortgages, higher car payments, he would also lead to much deeper cuts in Medicare, Medicaid, education and the environment. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is extremely risky. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
And as for these harsh words, I don't take them personally. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
He said much worse about Bob Dole when he said Bob Dole never met a tax that he didn't hike. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
He wrote about 450 separate provisions in that code. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
You better check with him before you eliminate it completely. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
He may be getting royalties. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Jim, a $550-billion tax cut, this is something that Al does not want to mention, has to be viewed against the context of a $50-trillion U.S. economy output of goods and services over the next six years. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
A $550-billion tax cut in a $50-trillion economy over six years is one-and-a-half percent, and the only hole it would blow is a hole in the plans of this administration to try to tinker with the tax code and defend the indefensible. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It would blow up the bureaucracy, but you would expand the economy. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's important for America. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Vice President, what about Mr. Kemp's point that he's made a couple of times that what we need is to throw away the current -- the present tax code and write a whole new tax system. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Do you agree with that? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've passed the Taxpayer Bill of Rights. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have fought for new provisions that now make it possible to file over the telephone. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We are fighting for tax reforms across-the-board, and most importantly, we have a plan on the table right now to cut taxes on middle income families with several specific provisions. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We already cut taxes on 15 million working families in this county, with an average of about $1,000 in tax relief to those making $25,000 a year or less. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
And for the last two years, we have had middle-income tax cuts on the table in the Congress and they would not -- they weren't accepted by Bob Dole and Newt Gingrich, because they said they would not pass them without cutting deeply into Medicare, Medicaid, education and the environment. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We are determined to move forward during these next four years, with the tax cuts that president Bill Clinton has proposed. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Here they are again: A $1500 tax credit for tuition, a $10,000 tax deduction so that no family pays taxes on the money for college tuition, capital gains eliminated for the sale of a home, a tax break for first-time home buyers and for health care expenses and a $500 child tax credit. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
You only get a tax cut in the Clinton administration if you do exactly what Al Gore and Bill Clinton want you to do. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's not America. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
When John F. Kennedy cut tax rates, the economy grew, unemployment went down and we balanced the budget, and revenues went up. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Indeed, the Secretary of Treasury under John F. Kennedy and the Deputy Secretary of Treasury under John F. Kennedy endorsed Bob Dole's plan to cut rates, cut the Capital Gains Tax, balance the budget, provide a $500 tax credit, and, clearly, the plan should be to lift the economy, to get more revenues. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Medicare will be saved because it will be put into a commission where both Bill Clinton and Bob Dole recognize it has to be studied by the same people that would study -- or did study, I should say, the Social Security System and saved it in 1983 and '84. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Look, we can bring down government -- the growth of government spending, but we have to grow the economy. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
And in Bob Dole and Jack Kemp's opinion, we should aim at doubling the size of the American economy in the next 15 years. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Under their policies, it will take 30 to 40 years. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's not acceptable. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
The chairman of their national campaign steering committee, Senator D'Amato, said that Bob Dole would have to cut into Medicare in order to pay for this proposal, but that he would wait until after the election to do it. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
The proposal to cut Medicare that Senator Dole pushed before, and shut down the government to try to enact, would have already raised by $268, the fees paid by the average couple now on Medicare. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He tried to double the deductibles and give people less in return. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have a balanced budget plan that protects Medicare and gives tax cuts. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp, is it really possible to balance the budget without reforming drastically the entitlements programs, including Social Security and Medicare? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Before I answer that, Jim, let me just say it is disgraceful, the campaign being waged to scare the American senior citizens, in this state and my home state of, well, New York and California, about Medicare. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
One other one in there, isn't there? Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
about Medicare Yeah, Maryland now. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The amount of money being spent to try to mislead the American people is demagoguery, and only in the Clinton White House and in Al Gore's mind could an increase in spending per capita on a senior citizen from $4800 in 1996 to $7200 over the next five years be considered a cut. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Does anybody think that Bob Dole, who almost gave his life for his country, who has served in the Senate, who helped save Social Security, crawled out of a fox hole on Riva Ridge in Northern Italy in 1945 to save a wounded radioman? Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Does anybody think in this country that he could possibly want to move our country ahead and leave anybody behind? Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Of course, we can balance the budget. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Of course, we have to hold down the growth in entitlement spending. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
But clearly, you cannot balance the budget, Jim, without growing this economy. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It's only growing at about two-and-a-half percent. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We should double the rate of growth and double the size of American economy. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
This means more jobs, more wealth, more income and more capital, particularly for our nation's poor and those left behind. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Lehrer, our balanced budget plan extends the Medicare Trust Fund ten years into the future. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
A commission is fine, but a commission would not do any good if we adopted this risky $550-billion tax scheme. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
The word "scary" has been used. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
A couple of days ago I went with Governor Lawton Chiles, who was here, to Sarasota to the Friendship Senior Center. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
I talked with a woman there named Dorothy Wornell and she said, "You know, we may not be as sophisticated as some of those people in Washington, but we can add and subtract." Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Here are the numbers she's adding and subtracting. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bob Dole's plan would have already imposed an extra $268 on the average Medicare receiving couple, and his plan would have doubled deductibles. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It would have cost an extra $1,700 over the lifetime of his plan and eliminated nursing home standards and guarantees of nursing home care for seniors. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bill Clinton prevented it from happening. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We will never allow that to happen. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Jim, Medicare is too important to senior citizens around this country to play the type of politics that is being played on this issue. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is losing $8 billion as we stand here tonight. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
By the President's own trustees of Medicare, three members of which serve in his cabinet, it will be losing $23 billion a year by 1998. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Something must be done. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bob Dole is -- has suggested a commission, but, clearly, you cannot save Medicare, Social Security, or any program for the social welfare net of American people, under which they should not be allowed to fall, unless we grow this economy at least twice the rate it is growing today. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
That is the issue, not scaring people in America. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Vice President, Mr. Kemp has accused you of demagoguery. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, as I said before, he used much harsher language when he talked about Bob Dole. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
He said that Bob Dole's solution for every single problem was to increase taxes. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He said just two years ago that the Bob Dole tax increase of 1982 was the largest tax increase in the history of the world, but let's get to the point. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Medicare has been adjusted 23 times since it was created in 1965. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bob Dole, incidentally, just bragged this year that he was one of only 12 people who voted against the creation of Medicare in the first place. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
I don't think he's -- he didn't believe in it then, and the plan that he promoted last year would have certainly been devastating to Medicare. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Again, don't take my word for it. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The American Hospital Association said it could have closed 700 hospitals. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
The Catholic Health Association, the AARP, and many other groups who pay careful attention to Medicare said that the Dole/Gingrich plan on Medicare would have led to deep cuts, possibly set up a two-tiered system, and would have ended the kind of Medicare system that we have. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Our plan extends Medicare ten years into the future. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We will always protect Medicare within the context of a balanced budget plan. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Folks, they have no plan. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
They have absolutely no plan. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
The President himself suggested that the reduction in the growth of Medicare over the next five or six years ought to be held to 6 percent under the Republican plan, irrespective of the numbers, it will grow at 7 or even more percent, but that is beside the point. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
What has to be discussed is how we, as a nation, are going to create the size of an economy, create a national wealth that would at least double this 6 or 7 trillion economy. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We would have $6 trillion in 15 years extra wealth for the American people. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Another trillion dollars of revenue, with which to save Medicare and Social Security. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
And you can't do it with a tax code and a regulatory code and people suing each other with frivolous suits, as this administration is allowing to happen. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
That has to change, and it will under Bob Dole and Jack Kemp. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I think Mr. Kemp has unintentionally made a mistake in saying that President Clinton called for reduction of -- to 6 percent or whatever you said. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
I believe you were referring to the "Money" magazine interview, and the publisher of "Money" magazine just sent Mr. Kemp a letter two days ago asking him to please stop inaccurately citing "Money" magazine. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is not what the President said. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is not the President's position. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Let me make clear what his position is. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We will save Medicare. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We will stop efforts to hurt Medicare, and we'll do it within a balanced budget plan. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp, what, if anything, would a Dole/Kemp administration do to change the current legal status of abortion in this country? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I will answer the question, but for the record, I would like to release the letter to our friends in the press of the letter I got from "Money" magazine, suggesting that Bill Clinton wanted and did lower the cost of living allowance for senior citizens as a way of reducing Social Security. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Putting that aside, the -- we recognize there's no consensus in America. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
This country is split between those who call themselves pro-choice, and I'm sure, very sincerely, and those of us who call ourselves pro-life, this is a very emotional issue. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
I'm sure it is for a woman. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
It certainly is for those of us like my wife and myself who have three adopted grandchildren. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We thank God every night of our life that a young woman was given a choice, was given the opportunity to choose life. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
This country should not be torn asunder over this debate, it has to be carried out with civility and respect, and Bob and I believe it can be. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
But we should recognize that every human life is precious and there should be all of the protection that we can give for an unborn human being. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
And to think that in this country, for every three births, there is one abortion. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
But even worse than that, as ugly as that might be -- and I know it's a tragedy to many people both on the pro-choice and pro-life position -- we have a President who vetoed a congressional ban on the ugly and gruesome practice of snatching life away from a child just moments before he or she enters the world. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
That is unacceptable. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Vice President? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
President Clinton has made it clear that he will sign legislation outlawing procedures such as this if there is a -- an exception to protect the health of the mother where serious health consequences, such as the inability to have any further children, are involved and her doctor advises her so. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
What is really at stake here is whether or not women will have the right to choose. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
The platform on which Mr. Kemp and Senator Dole are running pledges a constitutional amendment to take away a woman's right to choose and to have the government come in and order that woman to do what the government says, no matter what the circumstances. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp has voted 47 out of 47 times to have such an amendment and to restrict this completely, no matter what the circumstances, even where rape and incest is involved. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We will never allow a woman's right to choose to be taken away. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
There is no consensus. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
A constitutional amendment would not pass. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We must use persuasion, not intimidation. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bob Dole and Jack Kemp will try to remind the American people of what a tremendous asset our children are and why there should be protection for innocent human life, including that of the unborn. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
But to think that this administration vetoed the one chance they had to ban that practice without working with people in the Congress who would have loved to have had the opportunity to stop that gruesome practice is just unacceptable to the American people. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
And Bob Dole would never have vetoed that ban on partial-birth abortions in the third trimester of a woman's pregnancy. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Vice President, is the war in Bosnia really over, or is it going to break out again once the U.S. and the NATO troops leave? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The fighting has stopped in Bosnia. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
President Bill Clinton showed tremendous courage, vision, wisdom, and leadership in having our country take the lead in rallying our allies, bringing the warring factions together in Dayton, Ohio, and hammering out a peace agreement that has ended the war in Bosnia. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We hope that it will stay over with. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Elections having just been held. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
There is great progress towards peace and reconciliation in Bosnia. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We ought to be very proud of our soldiers who have played such a critical role in bringing about this peace in Bosnia. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
It's not the only case where Bill Clinton has provided such leadership. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have restored democracy to Haiti, with scarcely a shot being fired. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have seen movement towards reconciliation in Northern Ireland and in the Middle East. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
The Bible says there will always be wars and rumors of wars. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
As the President said the other night, there will always be troubles in this ol' world, but the United States of America can be counted on to provide the vision that the world looks for from the United States of America. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bill Clinton, as President, has provided that kind of leadership. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We are more secure and stronger today because of Bill Clinton's handling of foreign policy. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bob Dole supported the deployment of troops in Bosnia, but the problem with the foreign policy of this administration, there is none. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is ambiguous, it is contradictory. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is precipitous to go into Iraq with bombing before we had even consulted with our allies. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
To think that Sam Nunn of Georgia or Colin Powell helped put together the coalition in the Persian Gulf were not even consulted. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It was not only precipitous, it was a sign, not of strength, but of weakness. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
What's worse, they declared victory. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
They've declared victory in every deployment. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've had more deployments in four years than any previous four years I can think of, and I'm 61 years of age. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It's unbelievable that ambiguity can be called foreign policy. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Let me say what a friend told me, and I believed it for my whole career, weakness is provocative and our message should be clear. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
And that's what our message would be to the world under Bob Dole as Commander-in-Chief of the United States of America. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We did, of course, consult with our allies before we bombed Saddam Hussein, but sometimes the United States has to take unilateral action when our interests are at stake. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
General Schwarzkopf is in the audience tonight. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We're awfully proud of the way he led our coalition, organized under former President Bush. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
When the United States toward the repulsing of Saddam Hussein from Kuwait, three times as he's tried to get out of that box, Saddam Hussein has felt the sting of a swift, certain response from the United States of America under President Bill Clinton. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp, Senator Dole has criticized the President on Haiti, that he handled that wrong. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
What did he do wrong? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, it was Bob Dole that suggested that there be a fact-finding commission. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
President Carter was on it. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Colin Powell was on it. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
You cannot say, in our opinion, that Haiti is a great success. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Clearly, uh it was maybe the right thing to do, but we did not go in with enough information. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We caused problems in the first place by denying Caribbean countries and third-world countries a chance to trade freely in the United States. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It causes economic problems and turmoil, and then we turn around, as we did in Mexico, having to bail them out. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We caused the problem in the first place, and it cost us 20 to 50 billion to bail them out. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Haiti is very ambiguous at best. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We pray that democracy comes to Haiti, but so far, the message from Haiti is quite ambiguous, notwithstanding the declaration of victory by this administration. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, I didn't hear anything wrong. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The fact is, we restored democracy to Haiti. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
When I say "restored" actually, it's the first real democracy that Haiti has ever had. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
And it happened with scarcely any shots being fired. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I was in the Oval Office the night when President Clinton dispatched our troops from Ft. Bragg. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
It was a tense moment. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The planes were in the air and our negotiators were talking with the dictator down there. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
And when that dictator got the news from his spies outside the gate that all these planes were taking off, he said, let's get out of here. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's how it was done. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
It was one of the most deft uses of diplomacy and military force in combination that you will find anywhere in the annals of the history of this country. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
I was so proud of our President in the way he handled that, and the result, so far, is excellent. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
And we hope and pray that it will remain that way. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Many more results like Bosnia and Haiti and Mexico, and the Middle East, and we won't have much success. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
One of the most serious -- one of the most serious problems was the tremendous effort by this administration to force on Mexico a devaluation of their peso. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
The economy has dropped by almost 40 to 50 percent. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Then we go in and bail them out. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We caused the problem, then we have to bail them out. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We should have a foreign policy that's predicated upon trade, on spreading democracy, by giving people opportunities to trade freely with us, and making sure that everybody recognizes a rule of the Golden Rule, "To do unto others to have them do unto you." Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Diplomacy first, and don't bomb before breakfast. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Vice President, Mexico, we caused the problem, then had to go in and bail them out? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
No, that's not right. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
When Mr. Kemp started talking about the Golden Rule, I thought he was going to talk about the gold standard again. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
That used to be an integral part of this so-called "Supply Side Economics," but it may be something else that he now agrees with Bob Dole on, because Bob Dole voted to take us off the gold standard, a wise vote in my opinion. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Most -- all economists say that if we did that, it would throw us into a deep recession or depression and put millions out of work, but let me come directly to this question. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
No, when there was a crisis involving the Mexican peso, again, President Bill Clinton showed bold and dynamic leadership. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
I want to hasten to add that Senator Bob Dole gave critical bipartisan support at the time. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He agreed with the President. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He supported the President. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He said this is a wise move. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He could not get a majority in the Senate, and Speaker Gingrich could not get a majority in the house to go on record in support of it. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
So, the President, as presidents often have to do, went alone and did the right thing. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
You know, people said it was a big risk at that time. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've ended up making a $500 million profit. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
All of the loans have been paid back. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We're using that $500 million to further reduce the deficit. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It's come down 60 percent already. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It's going down even more toward a balanced budget, and this is helping. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It's unbelievable that we could cause a drop in the standard of living of a friendly country like Mexico by nearly 40 to 50 percent. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Unemployment goes up, we send U.S. tax dollars and IMF monies to Mexico, and we make a profit. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
At that level, that is -- gives new meaning to the word "profitability" for U.S. foreign policy. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The pain, the suffering, the unemployment, the bankruptcies, the loss of the standard of living, the people who have had to come across the border of California, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas if that's our foreign policy for the third-world or Latin America, I believe more than ever, we have to elect a president who understands trade, who understands honest money, who understands private enterprise, who understands democratic capitalism, not socialism caused by the IMF and the Clinton administration. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, I fail to understand the basis of the charge that we caused the monetary crisis in Mexico. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
They managed their own monetary policy. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Years ago, we used to hear this phrase in American politics, the "Blame America First" crowd. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I never liked that phrase, but if it was going to be applied today, it would have to be applied to this statement. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The United States of America shouldn't be blamed for the management of Mexico's monetary policy. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We helped our neighbor in an hour of need, and they survived. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
They're stronger. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
They're coming back. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
They paid us back, and we got a dividend in the process. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp, Senator Dole the other night criticized President Clinton for cutting defense spending and, thus, cutting jobs in California. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Is that how defense spending should be seen, as a jobs program as well? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I don't think, Jim, that Bob Dole was suggesting that the defense of our country is a jobs or a socioeconomic program, but it's clear that the defense budget of this administration has taken defense as a percent of our national economy to a lower level than it was prior to Pearl Harbor. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's dangerous and it's provocative. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
And the mixed message, the ambiguities of U.S. foreign policy, uh are -- I believe, and Bob Dole believes, is causing not only problems for this country throughout the world, but particularly here at home. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
And the type of changes that were made overnight in California caused very severe dislocations. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
And then, of course, the President ran out to California and announced, well, maybe we'll have another B-1or B-2 Bomber. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
But that is not the way policy should be made. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It should be predicated upon the defense needs, the security needs, the strategic needs of the United States of America, and that's how they'll be made under Bob Dole as president. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, first of all, there are virtually no large differences in the defense budgets put forward by President Clinton and put forward by the majority in the Congress in the last two years. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
They're very, very similar. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
There is a huge difference in our economic plan. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
This risky $550-billion tax scheme that I talked about earlier is said by the Concord Coalition, including Republicans like Pete Peterson and Warren Rudman, to pose a threat to our nation's ability to have a sensible defense budget in the future. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
They've gone on record as saying that this tax scheme would not only raise taxes on 9 million hard-working American families, but would also lead, almost inevitably, to deep cuts in Medicare and in defense. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have a balanced budget plan that protects the defense budget, also Medicare, Medicaid, education, the environment, and give tax -- gives tax cuts to middle-income families. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Jim, Al has to hear one more time. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Every time in this century we've lowered the tax rates across-the-board on employment, on saving, investment, and risk-taking in this economy, revenues went up, not down. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Now, if the purpose of the tax code is to raise revenue. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We ought to think, as John F. Kennedy did, about lowering the rates. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We can't go to zero. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
They can't go too low, because there's not enough revenue, but President Clinton apologized in Houston for saying, whoops, I raised your taxes and they're too high. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
President Bush apologized for raising taxes. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bob Dole knows that the rates have to come down across-the-board and then we'll get to the most important part, to repeal this code and go to a new system for the 21st Century. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Vice President, some Democrats have charged that the environment would be in jeopardy if Mr. Kemp and Senator Dole are elected. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Do you share that fear? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I certainly do. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Let me first say that. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
In citing John F. Kennedy's tax cut in the 1960s, I want to also remind you that Mr. Kemp has pointed out in the past, Bob Dole was in the Congress then. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
He was one of those who voted against John F. Kennedy's tax cut. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
The environment faces dire threats from the kind of legislation that Senator Dole and Speaker Newt Gingrich tried to pass by shutting down the government and attempting to force President Clinton to accept it. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
They invited the lobbyists for the biggest polluters in America to come into the Congress and literally rewrite the Clean Water Act and the Clean Air Act. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
President Clinton stopped them dead in their tracks. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have a positive agenda on the environment because we believe very deeply that it's about our children and our future. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Clean air and clean water, cleaning up toxic waste sites, when millions of children live within one mile of them. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's important. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have a plan to clean up two-thirds of the toxic waste sites in America over the next four years. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've already cleaned up more in the last three years than the previous two administrations did in 12. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
The President just set aside the Utah National Monument. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He is protecting the Everglades here in Florida. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bob Dole is opposed to that plan. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
President Bill Clinton will protect our environment and prevent the kind of attacks on it that we saw in the last Congress and are included in the Republican platform. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
And so will Bob Dole. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I mean, Al, get real. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Franklin Roosevelt said in 1932 that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The only thing, Jim, they have to offer is fear. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Fear of the environment, fear of the climate, fear of Medicare, fear of Newt, fear of Republicans, fear of Bob, and probably fear of cutting tax rates. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
They ain't seen nothing yet. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Look, we recognize that this country has to live in balance with our environment. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Every one of us who have children and grandchildren recognize how we have to reach a balance. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is not jobs versus our environment. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Both are important. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
This is the most overregulated, overly litigated economy in our nation's history. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
And to call a businessman or woman who sits down and has a chance to express his or her interest in how to make these laws work and call them a polluter is just outrageous. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is typical of the anti-capitalistic mentality of this administration. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That will change, because we believe in democratic capitalism for everybody. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
There are lots of jobs to be created in cleaning up the environment. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
All around the world we're seeing problems that people want to solve because they love their children. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
They want them to be able to drink clean water and breathe clean air. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
They don't want them to live next to toxic waste sites. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
When the United States of America takes the lead in protecting the environment, we do right by our children, and we also create new business opportunities, new jobs, new sources of prosperity for the United States of America, and we're going about it in a common sense way. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp, you mentioned it already before and you said on "Meet the Press" Sunday that the federal government engages in "regulation reign of terror." Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
What exactly do you mean? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, exactly just what I said. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Regulations that take property or reduce the value of some farmer or rancher or homeowner's property for wetlands or endangered species and take that property or reduce its value without compensating the owner. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
That is a reign of terror. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It's happening. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
In Oregon, not too long ago, a farmer took 25 percent of his property and declared it a wetland. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It had the runoff of snow that allowed it to be declared a wetland, but he did it himself voluntarily. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He found within a couple of years that the Bald Eagle began to use it as a habitat. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
The Corporations of Engineers, the Bureau of Wildlife and Fisheries, all of the federal agencies came onto his property, declared it a federal wetland and said he couldn't drive. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
They took away the road, he couldn't mend his fences and they wouldn't pay the value of the loss of the -- they wouldn't pay -- or compensate, I should say, for the loss of value to that property. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
How can we, as a free society, turn people into enemies or adversaries of the United States government? Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
OSHA does it, EPA does it, ERDA does it. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
And you name it. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We should recognize that this country lives in such a way as to build an alliance with our free enterprise system that can build a better America for our children and our grandchildren. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We can do it. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
But it's got to take new leadership in Washington. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, it takes values that recognize the importance of the environment. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp voted against the Clean Water Act, voted against the renewal of the Superfund Act. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have been taking a new approach, protecting the environment, but getting rid of unnecessary regulations. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We're eliminating 16,000 pages of regulations. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've entered a -- into a new project called project XL. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
This is at the EPA. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Where we enter into a bargain with businesses. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
When they say we'll exceed the standards, we give the EPA a way to measure the progress and throw away the rulebook all together. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Now this is the kind of common sense approach that can clean up the environment while eliminating unnecessary red tape. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Make no mistake about it, though, there are those who would like to go much further. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Some have even proposed and this bill he cites would do it, that polluters ought to be paid if they agree to stop dumping poisons into the river. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
The pay polluters provision is wrong. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We fought against it. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We'll never allow that. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
When I went to Congress from Buffalo in 1970, you could almost walk across Lake Erie because of the pollution. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Today, thanks to the secondary and tertiary treatment plants, which many of us voted for on both sides of the aisle, which actually started under Richard Nixon, a Republican president, our water is cleaner in the Great Lakes. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've got a lot of progress that we've made and we've got to make more, but to turn the country into a regulatory effort by the federal government to suggest that we can't work in harmony, "A" with the environment, and with business is a big mistake. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We should use incentives, not always using uh sticks against business in America and the jobs it creates. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Vice President, does the government of the -- of the United States as now operated by the Clinton Administration operate on a reign of terror, through a reign of terror? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
No, of course not. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We're taking a brand new approach to eliminate unnecessary regulations, unnecessary bureaucracy. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've got lots of examples of this there was a story in the newspaper the other day about a home testing kit that the FDA had held up. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That happened under a rule in the last administration. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We said change that rule. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It's being changed now. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It's under consideration by the FDA right now and it will be changed. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
There are thousands of other examples. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We believe that there is a new approach. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Let me give you an example from OSHA. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We're reinventing the way OSHA does its job. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Some people would like to eliminate OSHA. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We think that the protection of job safety in the workplace is very, very important, but what we've said is look, start, start measuring the results. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We found that the inspectors were being rewarded on the basis of how many fines they issued. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We changed that completely. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
They used to go in and give somebody a fine if they didn't have a poster on the wall informing employees of their rights. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
To use this as an example of our new approach, now if they go in and see that poster is not there, they go out to the trunk of the car and give them a poster. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It's the same approach that we're taking in all the regulatory agencies. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We're making a lot of progress. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We want the protection with common sense, not nonsense. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, we have to have the type of economic prosperity that will allow us to generate the revenues to provide this technology. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
10% of all the emissions -- 10% of the all the hydrocarbon emissions oxides going into the air caused by 10% -- 100% of the all the emissions are caused by 10% of the automobiles. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Now there is technology that would allow infrared technology to be used to identify those cars that are providing or the pollution in our atmosphere. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is not being able to be used because we are going to take every automobile driver in America, all 110 million automobiles, and charge them 17 or 20 or $25. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Look, we ought to go after the ones that pollute, not go after the men and women who want to be able to drive their automobile to work or to school and to make sure that they have the type of opportunity to live like everyone else without having themselves regulated by Washington establishment. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We can use technology. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's the answer, but to get the technology, you've got to have a growing economy. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
This economy is not growing fast enough and it will under Bob Dole and Jack Kemp. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, the economy is growing very strongly right now. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've had 10.5 million new jobs created just in the last four years. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
In the last quarter, the growth rate was 4.7%. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
The average growth rate is also coming up. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is higher than in either of the last two Republican administrations. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bob Dole said in February of this year this is the strongest economy in 30 years. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
The conservative business journal, "Barron's," says this is the strongest economy in 30 years. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've got good solid growth. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Let's don't risk it on some $550-billion risky scheme. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
What measurement do you use, Mr. Kemp, in saying the economy is not growing the way it should be? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, as I said earlier, Jim, it takes two bread winners to do what one breadwinner could have done just a relatively few short few years ago. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
As long as a woman or man wants to go to work it ought to be their choice, but in America today that woman or man must work in a family to, one to pay the tax and the other to help the family. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's not America. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It doesn't leave enough time for the children. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It doesn't leave enough time for people to enjoy their families. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It doesn't allow people to save. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
The family is the most overtaxed institution in the United States of America. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
When I was growing up in Los Angeles, a family that median level of income might have sent four or five percent of their income to the federal government. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Today, it's close to 30, or at least 27 or 28%. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's just unacceptable, and for Al Gore to keep suggesting that we can't afford to reduce the tax rates across-the-board on the American people and on the formation of the capital necessary to create the new jobs for America is just totally at odds with the experience of both Ronald Reagan, John F. Kennedy and other times in this century. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
One other thing that's very, very important. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
To call it a risky scheme reminds me of the fact that this administration is suggesting that they're going to give you a tax cut if you'll do what they want you to do. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
They want to cut the Capital Gain Tax, but only for home owners. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
How about the small businessmen and women of America that create 91% of all the new jobs? Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
My Daddy was a truck driver who bought the truck and started a company. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We need more truck drivers becoming truck owners and they can't do it if they don't have access to the capital and the seed corn for the next generation of truck and jobs for America. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've had the creation of more new small businesses in the last four years in each of the last three years than in any other year in all of American history. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've seen the creation of 10.5 million new jobs. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have the lowest combined rate of inflation and unemployment in 30 years. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
"Business Week" magazine said these are the kind of results that you want. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Lower inflation, lower interest rates, more jobs and more growth, all within the context of a balanced budget. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have reduced the budget deficit four years in a row. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've cut it down 60 percent. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
After it went up by almost 300 percent during the previous two administrations. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Now, this is the kind of growth that we want more of. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We think we can do much better still. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's why we're pushing these income tax cuts for middle income families in the context of a balanced budget that protects important programs. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Four years too late. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
You told us that four years ago. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
And we still don't have it. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
How can we trust an administration that, all of a sudden, four years into or the last year of its four years tells us that now they're going to follow through on the promise they made four years ago? Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
This economy is not growing fast enough. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
The haves are doing well, but Jim the have-nots are not doing well. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
There's people hurting, there're families that can't stay together. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
There's jobs that are not being created, and the unemployment rate in our nations' inner cities is somewhere between 16 and 25 percent. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That is morally and socially unacceptable in a modern day economy. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr Vice President, Senator Dole raised the same question to President Clinton the other night about keeping promises made. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
What is your reaction to that? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
What is your response to that charge against you and the President. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
President Bill Clinton promised to create 8 million jobs. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He's created 10 and a half million new jobs. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He's promised to cut the budget deficit in half. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He has cut it by 60 percent. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He promised to end welfare as we know it. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He passed and signed the Welfare Reform Law. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He has already moved 1.9 million people off the welfare rolls into good jobs. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've got a plan to move 1 million more off welfare during the next four years. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He promised to implement the death penalty. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We passed an anti-crime Bill that has 60 new death penalty provisions. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He promised to pass a plan that would put 100,000 new police officers on the streets. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is law, over the opposition of Senator Dole, and 20,000 of them are already on the streets, 2,000 of them have been funded already for here in Florida. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We're ahead of schedule and we're going to get the additional 80,000 new police officers on the streets in the coming four years, 45,000 of them are now already funded. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That is a record of promises made and promises kept. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
He promised middle-income tax cuts. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We've cut taxes for 15 million families and our plan to cut them for all middle income families has been waiting for action in the Congress for two full years. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
In the next four years, we will pass it. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, to say that this is the best economy in 30 years just staggers the imagination. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have a growth rate of the last four years of about two and a half percent. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
My friend Al Gore says it’s better than the Reagan years. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
It isn't. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
But irrespective of whether he thinks it is or not means less than fact that this country cannot morally and socially and economically accept an economy running out the clock on the 20th Century. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We're treading water. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have families that are hurting. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have people who are unemployed. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have people with no property. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have an administration that is demolishing public housing in our inner cities and not providing anything else but more public housing. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Their solution to the inner city is more -- excuse the expression but it's true, "socialism." Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is not for the people. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is for the government to tell them where to live, where to go to school. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We need school choice. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We need to privatize public housing, we need to sell it to the residents, we need to put enterprise zone into, in, America and need to lower the rates of taxation on labor, capital and the factors of production. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
That'll happen under Bob Dole. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We are demolishing the outdated projects that did not work and we're replacing them with new units that do work. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
And we have private vouchers so that individuals can choose for themselves where they live and we're selling these units to many of those who want to buy them. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp had a good idea when he advocated that years ago. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
He talked about it, we did it, and we're going to do a lot more of it, if we have the opportunity with the help of the American people. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp, uh some are saying these days that something's gone terribly wrong with the American soul, that we've become too mean, too selfish, too uncaring and the spitting incident, how it was handled, the baseball players used as a recent example. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
What do you think about that? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Civility, responsibility, racial reconciliation, healing the wounds of our country has to be one of the greatest, most singularly important goals for this country here on the edge of the 21st Century. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
How in the name of American democracy can we say to eastern Europe that democratic capitalism will work there if we can't make it work in East L.A. or East Harlem or East Palo Alto, California? Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
How can we tell South Africa and the new Mandela government that democracy and private property and limited government and the rule of law and civility will work there if it's not working in our own backyard here at home or the South Bronx? Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
How can America go into the next century and leave so many people behind? Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
"USA Today," just few weeks ago did a study. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
They said the affluent are doing very well in America, the haves, the have-nots and the poor are being left behind. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It is a giant, in my opinion, zero sum game. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Kind of like musical chairs when we were young boys and girls growing up. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
And it seemed like when the music stopped the big guy elbowed out the little guy from that last chair. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's not America folks. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We need more chairs, we need a bigger table, we need a greater banquet. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We need to create more wealth. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We need to create more jobs and more access to credit and capital and educational choice and opportunity for any man or woman and child to be what God meant them to be, not what Washington, D.C. wants them to be. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
I think Mr. Lehrer, that throughout much of his career, Jack Kemp has been a powerful and needed voice against the kind of coarseness and incivility that you refer to in the question. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I think it's an extremely valuable service to have a voice within the Republican party who says we ought to be one nation. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We ought to cross all of the racial and ethnic and cultural barriers. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
I think that is a very important message to deliver. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
And we ought to speak out against these violations of civility when they do occur. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
You asked about the incident involving Roberto Alomar. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I won't hesitate to tell you what I think. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I think he should have been severely disciplined, suspended perhaps, immediately. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
I don't understand why that action was not taken, but the same could be said of so many incidents in all kinds of institutions in our society, but I compliment Mr. Kemp for the leadership he has shown in moving us away from that kind of attitude. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, I thank you, Al. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I mean that very, very sincerely, but I'm trying to make a bigger point. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
That civility cannot return to our country unless every person feels that they have an equal shot at the American dream. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
That if you're born in this country to be a mezzo-soprano or a master carpenter or a school teacher, like my daughter, or a professional football quarterback, nothing should be in your way. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
And removing those barriers is what Bob Dole is all about, moving our country forward and leaving no one behind. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Vice President, do you agree with that thesis that in order to solve the problem of civility, the problems of the American soul, you have to -- it's an economic problem more than it is something else? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I think that economics is one of the single most important parts of this problem. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's why we're focusing on tax credits, to hire 1 million more people coming off welfare in the inner city. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's why we're focusing on an economic policy that has already created ten and a half million new jobs and is going to create millions more within the context, again, of a balanced budget that protects important programs. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have focused especially on the most distressed areas, because we cannot leave anyone behind. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Our empowerment zones and enterprise communities, the tax credits that will encourage the formation of new businesses, the new approach by the small business administration to get more loans out to individuals that have not had equal access to capital in the past. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
These are parts of the plan. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Another part of it is the community development financial institutions. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
And the -- and the law that says deposits that are made in a community, in the inner cities say, should be kept in the community, not entirely, but some percentage of them should be kept there. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
That prevents that money being taken from the community and invested in some go-go investment on the other side of the world. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
And when they invest in the community, they find that there's a better payback rate, more small businesses are created and the community improves. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
That's happening in America today, not fast enough, but faster than before and we think we can accelerate it with our plan. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
There really is no separation between a strong community and a strong economy. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
And you can't have a strong economy without strong communities and strong families. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
The word "economics" in Greek came from the word family, or law or custom of the family. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
A family without a job where both breadwinners are away from home and cannot spend time with their children or can't send the child to the school of their choice rather than just the choice of the federal bureaucracy, cannot possibly be as strong as a family that has the nurture, the love, the dignity and the justice that goes along with one breadwinner, a strong job, and if that man or woman wants to work, it's their choice, not just to pay taxes. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
So we need both. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We need strong commun -- we need strong schools, we need schools that nurture the type of discipline and respect from teachers and parents. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
And Bob Dole wants to empower the public school districts and the teachers, not the federal bureaucracy at the Department of Education. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, Senator Dole has said that he wants to abolish the Department of Education. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He voted against the creation of Head Start. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
He vigorously opposed the Family and Medical Leave Act, which was the first law that President Clinton signed as president. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Now, Senator Dole has suggested he would repeal the Family and Medical Leave Act if he had the chance if he was elected president. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We believe in more educational opportunity and measures to strengthen families, not restrict their access to education. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Kemp, speaking of the family, where do you come down on it? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Do you believe it should be repealed? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The Family Leave Act? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I wouldn't have voted for it. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It's in place. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Their answer, this administration to every single problem is another regulation and another tax. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Clearly, in America, we need -- I am astounded to think that you can have a strong Family Leave Act or policy by a business if they're not making a profit. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
If there aren't a lot of jobs, if there isn't the types of policies that will enhance the formation of the seed corn and the oxygen and the capital that would allow that company not only retain that profit but invest it. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
As I said earlier, Dana Crist of Lancaster, Pennsylvania who runs a small little manufacturing or distribution center in Lancaster, said that she as an entrepreneur, would start a whole new factory if the federal government would cut the cost of capital. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
She wants the capital gains rate reduced. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
And if, to Al Gore and Bill Clinton that is somehow, trickle-down economics. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Tell that to Dana Crist, tell it to Van Woods, tell it to the men and women I met in South Central. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Tell it to anybody who understands how to makes democratic capitalism work. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I want to say it one more time. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The real excitement of a Dole/Kemp Administration would be to get out of this current tax code that redistributes wealth and create a brand new system for the 21st Century that's pro-family, pro-growth and stops the double, triple and quadruple taxation of income from work, savings, investment and entrepreneurial risk taking in America. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
The question as I recall, it was about Family and Medical Leave. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Here's how it works. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
If you have a child who is critically ill or has been seriously injured and you have to stay with that child in the hospital, some employers, have said you can't take too much time off in spite of these circumstances. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
I personally know people who have been fired because they made the choice to be with their child. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Don't tell me this doesn't happen. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It happens all across the United States. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
But since Bill Clinton made this the first law he signed, it has been use 12 million times by American families to reconcile the demands of work with the responsibilities to the family. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
We now want to extend it to PTA meetings and scheduled doctors appointments. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It shouldn't be repealed. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It ought to be extended. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
75 percent of businesses who have been -- had experience with it say they like it. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It works. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, it was here before Bill Clinton and it will be here after Bill Clinton. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Senator Tsongas a good friend of Senator Gore, Vice President Gore suggested that he was afraid his party was falling into the trap of loving the employee, but hating the employer. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
You cannot love labor and hate employers. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
You cannot drive this wedge between workers and management. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
And businesses were providing family leave. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
They will continue. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
They should. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
They've got to make a profit and the tax on business, capital, labor and families is too high and it will -- we want to reduce that regulatory burden and that tax burden in a new Dole/Kemp Administration. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Gentlemen, that was the last question, so now we go to the closing statements. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
There will be three minutes each and Mr. Kemp, you are first. Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Thank you, Jim and thanks to the people of St. Petersburg for a fantastic hospitality and my friend, Al Gore, for a vigorous debate. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I think this is the most exciting time in the history of the world to be alive. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have lived through what Jean Kirpatrick called the bloodiest century in mankind's history. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have defeated in this system of ours fascism, Nazism, communism, socialism is defunct or debunked around the world, the evil of apartheid has ended. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
There is only one last question remaining for the next century, indeed the next millennium. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Can we, in America, make the world's greatest liberal democracy, this democratic experiment in private property, limited government, the rule of law, respect for families and traditional Judeo-Christian values work, so it can be a blessing to our country and a blessing to the rest of the world? Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
With all due respect to this administration, they've got a foreign policy in disarray. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
They have a lack of credibility around the world. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
Weakness, I said earlier, is provocative and clearly, this economy is not performing up to the standards that we would expect from this great nation going into the most exciting global economy the world has ever known. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
There's something amiss. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Our culture seems to be weakening all around us. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Families are under tremendous pressure. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
People do not -- do not feel safe in their homes. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
A mother doesn't feel safe sending her child to school. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Our schools are not educating. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It's not the problem of the teachers. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
They are overworked and my daughter will tell you, they are underpaid and we know that, they need to be empowered. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We need to reform education. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We need to reform welfare. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We need to reform litigation and regulation. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
And we certainly need to reform this tax code that is a product of this terrible century of war and recession and inflations. Jack F. Kemp Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
It can be done. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We need somebody who understands the potential of the American people, who are not just doing well for ourselves, we need to do well for the rest of the world, because they're looking at us. Jack F. Kemp Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
And we need to make it work in every neighborhood and community in America and for every family, so that no one as Bob Dole said in his San Diego acceptance speech is left behind. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Bob Dole, as I said earlier, is a man of courage, a man of principles, a man who crawled out of a fox hole on Riva Ridge in 1945 to save a wounded brethren. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The bible says no greater love hath a man than he gave his life. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Well, Bob Dole did, just about, he'd been through the valley of the shadow and he as Commander-in-Chief can take this country with the courage of Churchill. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
The principles of Lincoln and the indefatigable optimism and spirit that this nation expects from its Commander-in-Chief and the next President of the United States, Bob Dole. Jack F. Kemp O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Mr. Vice President? Jim Lehrer O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Thank you very much, Mr. Lehrer. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Thanks again to the people of St. Petersburg and thanks again to Jack Kemp. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I have enormous respect for Jack Kemp and for Bob Dole. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
They're good men. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I don't agree with their plan. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
I've tried to make that clear tonight. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
And one reason I've tried to make it clear is that in just 27 days, the United States of America has an important choice to make. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Between two approaches to the future of this country. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have a plan that will create millions more jobs, bring the deficits down further and balance the budget, while protecting Medicare, protecting Medicaid, protecting and preserving the environment, our air, our water, the Everglades, the Tongas, the Mojave Desert in California, the Utah-Red Rocks area, all of which have been protected by President Bill Clinton. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We also have a plan to expand access to education. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
There's a family in the audience tonight, the McNeil family, who lives right here in St. Petersburg. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Both parents are teachers, they're not rich in money, but they have strong values and they value education. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
They're oldest son is a freshman at St. Petersburg Junior High -- Junior College. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Their younger son, Roderick, is a sophomore in the same high school that Don McNeil teaches at. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Roderick is concerned that he may not be able to get the tuition he needs to go to college when the time comes. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
Our plan gives a $1500 tax credit to make that junior college essentially free. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
And a $10,000 tax deduction to make it so that no American family, or almost no family, will have to pay taxes on the money they pay for college tuition. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
This plan also gives tax breaks on the sale of a home, up to $500,000 in profit tax free. Albert A. Gore Premise 1996 09 Oct 1996
It gives the new break for first-time home buyers, and, again, all in the context of a balanced budget. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
We have seen progress during the last four years because policies like these have been working. Albert A. Gore Claim 1996 09 Oct 1996
This risky scheme that I've described tonight has been said by many objective observers to not add up, it would be a serious risk. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Our plan, by contrast, has been working and will work more. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
We want to build a bridge to the 21st Century and we want it to be strong enough and broad enough for all families to cross and we want it to lead to a brighter future for America, 'cause our best days are ahead. Albert A. Gore O 1996 09 Oct 1996
Good evening from the Bushnell Theatre in Hartford, Connecticut. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I'm Jim Lehrer of the News Hour on PBS. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Welcome to the first of the 1996 Presidential debates between President Bill Clinton, the Democratic nominee, and Senator Bob Dole, the Republican nominee. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
This event is sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
It will last 90 minutes following a format and rules worked out by the two campaigns. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
There will be two-minute opening and closing statements. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
In between, a series of questions, each having three parts. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
A 90-second answer, a 60-second rebuttal, and a 30-second response. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I will assist the candidates in adhering to those time limits with the help of a series of lights visible to both. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Under their rules, the candidates are not allowed to question each other directly. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I will ask the questions. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
There are no limitations on the subjects. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
The order for everything tonight was determined by coin toss. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now, to the opening statements and to President Clinton. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Thank you, Jim. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And thank you to the people of Hartford, our hosts. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I want to begin by saying again how much I respect Senator Dole and his record of public service and how hard I will try to make this campaign and this debate one of ideas, not insults. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Four years ago I ran for president at a time of high unemployment and rising frustration. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I wanted to turn this country around with a program of opportunity for all, responsibility from all, and an American community where everybody has a role to play. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I wanted a government that was smaller and less bureaucratic to help people make the most of their own lives. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Four years ago you took me on faith. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now there's a record: Ten and a half million more jobs, rising incomes, falling crime rates and welfare rolls, a strong America at peace. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We are better off than we were four years ago. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let's keep it going. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
We cut the deficit by 60 percent. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now, let's balance the budget and protect Medicare, Medicaid, education and the environment. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We cut taxes for 15 million working Americans. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now let's pass the tax cuts for education and child rearing, help with medical emergencies, and buying a home. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We passed family and medical leave. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now let's expand it so more people can succeed as parents and in the work force. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We passed 100,000 police, the assault weapons ban, the Brady Bill. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now let's keep going by finishing the work of putting the police on the street and tackling juvenile gangs. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We passed welfare reform. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now let's move a million people from welfare to work. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And most important, let's make education our highest priority so that every eight-year-old will be able to read, every 12-year-old can log onto the Internet, every 18-year-old can go to college. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We can build that bridge to the 21st Century. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I look forward to discussing exactly how we're going to do it. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, two minutes. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Thank you. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Thank you, Mr. President, for those kind words. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Thank the people of Hartford, the Commission, and all those out here who may be listening or watching. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's a great honor for me to be here standing here as the Republican nominee. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I'm very proud to be the Republican nominee reaching out to Democrats and Independents. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I have three very special people with me tonight: My wife, Elizabeth; my daughter, Robin, who has never let me down, and a fellow named Frank Carafa from New York, along with Ollie Manninen who helped me out in the mountains of Italy a few years back. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I've learned from them that people do have tough times. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And sometimes you can't go it alone. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And that's what America is all about. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I remember getting my future back from doctors and nurses and a doctor in Chicago named Dr. Kalikian . Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And ever since that time, I've tried to give something back to my country, to the people who are watching us tonight. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
America is the greatest place on the face of the earth. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now, I know millions of you still have anxieties. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
You work harder and harder to make ends meet and put food on the table. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You worry about the quality and the safety of your children, and the quality of education. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But even more importantly, you worry about the future and will they have the same opportunities that you and I have had. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And Jack Kemp and I want to share with you some ideas tonight. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Jack Kemp is my running mate, doing an outstanding job. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now, I'm a plain-speaking man and I learned long ago that your word was your bond. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I promise you tonight that I'll try to address your concerns and not try to exploit them. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's a tall order, but I've been running against the odds for a long time and, again, I'm honored to be here this evening. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President, first question. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
There is a major difference in your view of the role of the Federal government and that of Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
How would you define the difference? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, Jim, I believe that the Federal government should give people the tools and try to establish the conditions in which they can make the most of their own lives. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
That, to me, is the key. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And that leads me to some different conclusions from Senator Dole. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
For example, we have reduced the size of the Federal government to its smallest size in 30 years. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We reduced more regulations, eliminated more programs than my two Republican predecessors. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I have worked hard for things like the Family and Medical Leave Law, the Brady Bill, the assault weapons ban, the program to put 100,000 police on the street. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
All of these are programs that Senator Dole opposed that I supported, because I felt they were a legitimate effort to help people make the most of their own lives. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I've worked hard to help families impart values to their own children. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I supported the V-chip so that parents would be able to control what their kids watch on television when they're young, along with the ratings systems for television and educational television. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I supported strong action against the tobacco companies to stop the marketing, advertising, and sale of tobacco to young people. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I supported a big increase in the safe and drug-free schools program. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
These were areas on which Senator Dole and I differed, but I believed they were the right areas for America to be acting together as one country to help individuals and families make the most of their own lives and raise their kids with good values and a good future. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, one minute. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think the basic difference is, and I have had some experience in this, I think the basic difference, I trust the people. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
The President trusts the government. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We go back and look at the healthcare plan that he wanted to impose on the American people. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
One seventh the total economy, 17 new taxes, price controls, 35 to 50 new bureaucracies that cost $1.5 trillion. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Don't forget that, that happened in 1993. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
A tax increase, a tax on everybody in America. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Not just the rich. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
If you made 25,000 as the original proposal, you got your Social Security taxes increased. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We had a BTU tax we turned into a $35 million gas tax, a $265 billion tax increase. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I guess I rely more on the individual. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I carry a little card in my pocket called the Tenth Amendment. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Where possible, I want to give power back to the states and back to the people. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's my difference with the President. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We'll have specific differences later. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
He noted a few, but there are others. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President, 30 seconds. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I trust the people. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've done a lot to give the people more powers to make their own decisions over their own lives. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I do think we are right when we try to, for example, give mothers and newborns 48 hours before they can be kicked out of the hospital, ending these drive-by deliveries. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think we were right to pass the Kassebaum-Kennedy bill, which says you can't lose your health insurance just because you change jobs or because someone in your family's been sick. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Our government is smaller and less bureaucratic and has given more authority to the states than its two predecessors under Republican presidents. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I do believe we have to help our people get ready to succeed in the 21st Century. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, the President said in his opening statement we are better off today than we were four years ago. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Do you agree? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, he's better off than he was four years ago. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I agree with that. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's right. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I may be better off four years from now, but I don't know. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I looked at the slowest growth in the century. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
He inherited a growth of 4.7 4.8 percent, now it's down to about 2.4 percent. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We're going to pass a million bankruptcies this year for the first time in history. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've got stagnant wages. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
In fact, women's wages have dropped 2.2 percent. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Men's wages haven't gone up, gone down. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So we have stagnation. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We have the highest foreign debt in history. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And it seems to me that if you take a look, are you better off? Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, I guess some may be better off. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Saddam Hussein is probably better off than he was four years ago. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Renee Proval (ph) is probably better off than he was four years ago. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But are the American people? Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
They're working harder and higher and harder paying more taxes. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
For the first time in history, you pay about 40 percent of what you earn. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
More than you spend for food, clothing and shelter combined for taxes under this administration. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So some may be better off. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
They talk about family income being up. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's not true in Connecticut, family income is down. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And it's up in some cases because both parents are working. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
One works for the family, and one works to pay taxes for the government. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We're going to give them tax cuts so they can spend more time with their children, maybe even take a vacation. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's what America is all about. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
One minute, Mr. President. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, let me say, first of all, in February Senator Dole acknowledged that the American economy was in the best shape it's been in in 30 years. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We have ten and a half million more jobs, a faster job growth rate than under any Republican administration since the 1920s. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Wages are goings up for the first time in a decade. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We have record numbers of new small businesses. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We have the biggest drop in the number of people in poverty in 27 years. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
All groups of people are growing. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We had the biggest drop in income inequality in 27 years in 1995. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The average family's income has gone up over $1600 just since our economic plan passed. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So I think it's clear that we're better off than we were four years ago. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now we need to focus on what do we need to do to be better off still. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
How can we help people as we are to get their retirements when they work for small businesses, to be able to afford health insurance, to be able to educate their children. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's what I want to focus on. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
But we are clearly better off than we were four years ago, as Senator Dole acknowledged this year. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I doubt that I acknowledged that this year. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
But in any event, I think we just look at the facts. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We ask the people that are viewing tonight, are you better off than you were four years ago. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's not whether we're better off, it's whether they're better off. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Are you working harder to put food on the table, feed your children. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Are your children getting a better education. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Drug use has doubled the past 44 months all across America. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Crime has gone down but it's because the mayors like Rudy Giuliani where one third of the drop happened in one city, New York City. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So, yes, some may be better off. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
But of the people listening tonight, the working families who will benefit from economic packages, they'll be better off when Bob Dole is president and Jack Kemp is vice president. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President, Senator Dole has come pretty close in the last few days to accusing you of lying about his position on Medicare reform. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Have you done so? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Absolutely not. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let's look at the position. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
First of all, remember that in this campaign season, since Senator Dole's been a candidate, he has bragged about the fact that he voted against Medicare in the beginning, in 1965, one of only 12 members. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
He said he did the right thing then, he knew it wouldn't work at the time. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's what he said. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Then his budget that he passed along with Speaker Gingrich cut Medicare $270 billion, more than was necessary to repair the Medicare trust fund. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It would have charged seniors more for out-of-pocket costs as well as more in premiums because doctors could have charged them more. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
The American Medical, Hospital Association, the Nurses Association, the Catholic Hospital Association all said hundreds of hospitals could close and people would be hurt badly under the Dole-Gingrich Medicare plan that I vetoed. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And now with this risky $550 billion tax scheme of Senator Dole's, even his own friends, his campaign co-chair, Senator D'Amato, says that they can't possibly pay for it without cutting Medicare more and cutting Social Security as well, according to him. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now, my balanced budget plan adds ten years to the life of the Medicare trust fund, ten years. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And we'll have time to deal with the long-term problems of the baby boomers. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But it was simply wrong to finance their last scheme to cut Medicare $270 billion to run the risk of it withering on the vine. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We always had to reform it over the years, but we need somebody who believes it in to reform it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, I must say, I look back at the vote on Medicare in 1965, we had a program called Eldercare that also provided drugs and means tests to people who needed medical attention received it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I thought it was a good program. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I've supported Medicare ever since. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
In fact, I used to go home, my mother would tell me, Bob, all I've got is my Social Security and my Medicare, don't cut it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I wouldn't violate anything my mother said. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
In fact, we had a conversation about our mothers one day, a very poignant conversation in the White House. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I'm concerned about healthcare. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I've had the best healthcare from government hospitals, Army hospitals and I know its importance, but we've got to fix it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's his trustees, the President's trustees, not mine, who says it's going to go broke. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
He doesn't fix it for ten years. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We ought to appoint a commission, just as we did in Social Security in 1983, when we rescued Social Security, and I was proud to be on that commission, along with Claude Pepper, the champion of senior citizens from Florida. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And we can do it again, if we take politics out of it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Stop scaring the seniors, Mr. President. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
You've already spent $45 million scaring seniors and tearing me apart. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think it's time to have a truce. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, let me say, first of all, I'd be happy to have a commission deal with this and I appreciate what Senator Dole did on the '83 Social Security commission. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
But it won't be possible to do, if his tax scheme passes because even his own campaign co-chair, Senator D'Amato, says he'll have to cut Medicare even more than was cut in the bill that I vetoed. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I vetoed that bill because it cut more Medicare and and basically ran the risk of breaking up the system. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
My balanced budget plan puts ten years on the Medicare. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We ought to do that, then we can have a commission. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
But Senator Dole's plans are not good for the country. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, speaking of your tax plan, do you still think that's a good idea, the 15 percent across the board tax cut? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Oh, yes. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And you'll be eligible. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Me too? William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And so will the former President, yes. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I need it. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, the people need it, that's the point. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
This is not a Wall Street tax cut. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
This is a family tax cut. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
This is a Main Street tax cut, 15 percent across -- let's take a family making $30,000 a year, that's $1261. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now, maybe to some in this Bushnell Memorial that it's not a lot of money, but people watching tonight with a couple of kids, a working family, that's four or five months of day care, maybe a personal computer; it's may be three or four months of mortgage payments. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
This economic package is about families but it's a six-point package. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
First of all, it's a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution which President Clinton defeated. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
He twisted arms and got six Democrats to vote the other way, but we lost by one vote. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's balancing a budget by the year 2002. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's a tax cut, cutting capital gains 50 percent. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So you can go out and create more jobs and more opportunities. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's a state tax relief. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's a $500 per child tax credit. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's about litigation reforms. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now that the President gets millions of dollars from the trial lawyers, he probably doesn't like this provision. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
In fact, when I fell off the podium in Chico, before I lit the ground, hit the ground I had call on my cell phone from a trial lawyer saying I think we've got a case here. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And it's also regulatory reform. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's a good package, Mr. President. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We'd like to have your support. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, here's the problem with it: It sounds very good, but there's a reason that 500 economists, including seven Nobel prize winners and business periodicals like Business Week, and even Senator Dole's friends, Senator Warren Rudman, former Republican senator from New Hampshire, says it's not a practical program. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's a $550 billion tax scheme that will cause a big hole in the deficit which will raise interest rates and slow down the economy and cause people to pay more for home mortgages, car payments, credit card payments, college loans, and small business loans. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's not good to raise the deficit. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We worked too hard to lower it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It will actually raise taxes on nine million people and, in addition to that, it will force bigger cuts in Medicare, Medicaid, education and the environment than the ones that he and Mr. Gingrich passed that I vetoed last year. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
So it sounds great, but our targeted tax cut for education, child rearing, healthcare and home buying, which is paid for in my balanced budget plan, something that he has not done, certified by the Congressional budget office, that's the right way to go. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
The President wants to increase spending 20 percent over the next six years. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I want to increase spending 14 percent, that's how simple it is. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I want the government to pinch pennies for a change instead of the American families. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We're talking about six percentage points over six years, and with that money you give it back to the working people. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You also provide opportunity scholarships so low income parents will have the same choice that others have in sending their children to better schools. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It will work, and when it does work, Mr. President, I know you'll congratulate me. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President, the Senator mentioned trial lawyers and campaign, that means campaign financing. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
How do you personally avoid being unduly influenced by people who give you money or give you services in your campaigns? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, I try to articulate my positions as clearly as possible, tell people what I stand for and let them decide whether they're going to support me or not. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
The Senator mentioned the trial lawyers. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
In the case of the product liability bill, which they passed and I vetoed, I think that's what he's talking about, I actually wanted to sign that bill. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I told the people exactly what the Congress exactly what kind of bill I would sign. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now, a lot of the trial lawyers didn't want me to sign any bill at all, but I had thought we ought to do what we could to cut frivolous lawsuits, but they wouldn't make some of the changes that I thought should be made. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now, let me just give you an example. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I had a person in the Oval Office who lost a child in a school bus accident where a drunk driver caused the accident directly, but there were problems with the school bus. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The drunk driver had no money. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Under the new bill, if I had signed it, a person like that could never have had any recovery. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I thought that was wrong. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
So I gave four or five specific examples to the Congress and said, prove to me that these people could recover but we're going to eliminate frivolous lawsuits, I'll sign the bill. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But generally I believe that a president has to be willing to do what he thinks is right. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I've done a lot of things that were controversial. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
My economic plan, my trade position, Bosnia, Haiti, taking on the NRA for the first time, taking on the tobacco companies for the first time. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Sometimes you just have to do that because you know it's right for the country over the long run. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's what I've tried to do and that's what I will continue to do as president. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
How does he avoid conflict? Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, I don't know in the case of the trial lawyers. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I look at the trial lawyers, and when you're a few million short, you run out to Hollywood and pick up two to four million and organized labor comes to Washington, D.C. and puts 35 million into the pot. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now, if these aren't special interests, I've got a lot to learn. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I was there for a while before I left on June the 11th. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
The trial lawyers and I don't -- you know, my wife's a lawyer. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
We're the only two lawyers in Washington that trust each other. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
But we're lawyers, I like lawyers. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I don't dislike trial lawyers. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
But it seemed to me there's got to be some end to the frivolous lawsuits and there's got to be some cap on punitive damage. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You're putting a lot of business people out of business. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Small businessmen and businesswomen who paid 70 percent of your ninteen , your$265 billion tax increase, the largest tax increase in the history of America. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I said that one day and Pat Moynihan, a Democrat, say, no, he said, in the history of the world. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
So I modified it, the largest tax increase in the history of the world. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And it seems to me that there is a problem there, Mr. President. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I will address you as Mr. President. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
You didn't do that with Mr. with President Bush in 1992. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let me say, first of all, I signed a tort reform bill that dealt with civilian aviation a couple of years ago. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I proved that I will sign reasonable tort reform. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Secondly, Senator Dole had some pretty harsh comments about special interest money, but it wasn't me who opposed what we tried to do to save the lives of children who were subject to tobacco and then went to the tobacco growers and bragged about standing up for the Federal government when we tried to stop the advertising, marketing, and sales of tobacco to children. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And it wasn't me that let the polluters actually come into the halls of Congress, into the rooms, and rewrite the environmental laws. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's what Speaker Gingrich and Senator Dole did, not me. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's not true. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
So I believe that we should take a different approach to this and talk about how we stand on the issues instead of trying to characterize each other's motivations. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think Senator Dole and I just honestly disagree. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, Senator Dole, let me ask you the same question I asked the President: How do you avoid being influenced by people who contribute money and services to your campaigns? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think it's very difficult. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let's be honest about it. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's why we need campaign finance reform. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's why I reach out to the Perot voters. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've done about all, we are the reform party, the Republican Party. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And the Perot voters that are looking for a home ought to take a look at the Republican record. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Whatever it is, whatever the checklist was in '92, it's all done with campaign finance reform. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I worked with Senator Mitchell, who played me, I guess, in the debate warmup. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We tried six or eight years ago. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
He appointed three people, I appointed three people to get campaign finance reform. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We couldn't get it done, because I wasn't enforceable. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
You've suggested a commission, Newt Gingrich did, I suggested that at least four or five years ago. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We have a commission on campaign finance reform. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
They send it to Congress, and we have to vote it up or down. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's how it works. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We are never going to fix it by the parties, because Democrats want a better advantage for themselves, we want a better advantage as Republicans, and that's not how it's going to work. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I want to touch on this is tobacco thing. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I know the President's been puffing a lot on that. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I want to go back to 1965. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
That was my first vote against tobacco companies when I said we ought to label cigarettes. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I've had a consistent record ever since 1965. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We passed a bill in 1992 that encouraged the states to adopt programs to stop kids from smoking. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
All 50 states did it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It took three and a half years. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It wasn't until election year, Mr. President, that you ever thought about stopping smoking. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
What about drugs that have increased, doubled in the last 44 months? Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Cocaine is up 141 percent -- marijuana, cocaine up 166 percent. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It seems to me that you have a selective memory. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
You know, mine doesn't work that way. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
So I just want to try to correct it as we go along. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. Lehrer, I hope we'll have a chance to discuss drugs later in the program. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
But let me respond to what you said. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I agree that too many incumbent politicians in Washington in both parties have consistently opposed campaign finance reform. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
That was certainly the case from the minute I got there. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So after Speaker Gingrich and Senator Dole took over the Congress, I went to New Hampshire and a man suggested -- a gentleman that unfortunately just passed away a couple of days ago, suggested that we appoint a commission. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I shook hands with him on it and I appointed my members, and the commission never met. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And then Senator Dole's ardent supporters, Senator McCain, who's out there today, along with Senator Feingold, supported, sponsored a campaign finance reform proposal. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I strongly supported it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And members of Senator Dole's own party in the Senate killed it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And he was not out there urging them to vote for the McCain-Feingold bill. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So I think the American people, including the Perot supporters, know that I have had a consistent record in favor of campaign finance reform, and I will continue to have. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I hope we can finally get it in the next session of Congress, because we need it badly. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, 30 seconds. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, on campaign reform itself, we're going to get it when we have a bipartisan commission, take it out of politics. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Get people who don't have any interest in politics but understand the issue and let them make the recommendation to Congress. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now, we're now kidding anybody, Mr. President. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
These are sophisticated people watching tonight. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Millions and millions of Americans. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
They know the Republican Party hasn't done it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
They know the Democratic party won't do it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We ought to agree that somebody else should do it. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And we have to vote it up or down, Mr. President. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President, the Senator mentioned drugs. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
He suggested that you are -- you bear some responsibility for the rise in drug use of teenagers in the United States. Jim Lehrer Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Is he right? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, Jim, I think every American in any position of responsibility should be concerned about what's happened. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I am. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
But let's look at the overall record. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Overall in America cocaine use has dropped 30 percent in the last four years, casual drug use down 13 percent. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The tragedy is that our young people are still increasing their use of drugs up to about 11 percent total with marijuana, and I regret it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let me tell you what I tried to do about it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I appointed a four-star general who led our efforts south of the border to keep drugs from coming into the country as our nation's drug czar. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The most heavily directed, decorated solder in uniform when he retired. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We submitted the biggest drug budget ever. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We have dramatically increased control and enforcement at the border. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We supported a a crime bill that had 60 death penalties including, including the death penalty for drug kingpins. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I supported a big expansion in safe and drug-free schools program to support things like the DARE program because I thought all those things were very important. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Do I think that I bear some responsibility for the fact that too many of our children still don't understand drugs are wrong, drugs can kill you. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Even though I have consistently opposed the legalization of drugs all my public life and worked hard against them. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think we all do. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I hope we can do better. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I don't think this issue should be politicized because my record is clear and I don't think Senator Dole supports using using drugs. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think we just have to continue to work on this until those who think it isn't dangerous and won't kill them and won't destroy their lives, get the message and change. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Again, well it's, you are very selective, Mr. President. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
You don't want to politicize drugs, but it's already politicized Medicare, go out and scare senior citizens and other vulnerable groups, veterans and people who get Pell Grants and things like this. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I mean, you say we've done all these bad things, which isn't the case. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But it seems to me the record is clear. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
The record is pretty clear in Arkansas, when you were governor. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Drug use doubled. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You resisted the appointment of a drug czar there because you thought it might interfere with treatment. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But here you cut the drug czar's office 83 percent. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You cut interdiction substantially. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I mean that's what, I want to stop it from coming across the border. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And in my administration, we're going to train the National Guard to stop it from coming across the border. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
This is a invasion of drugs from all over the world. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And we have a responsibility. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
You had a surgeon -- or before General McCaffrey (ph) you had a lady who said we ought to consider legalizing drugs. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Is that the kind of leadership we need? Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I won't comment on other things that happened in your administration or your past about drugs. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
But it seems to me the kids ought to -- if they've started, they ought to stop and just don't do it. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let me say again, we did have a drug czar in Arkansas, but he answered to the governor, just like this one answers to the President. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's what I thought we ought to do. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Secondly, Senator Dole, you voted against the crime bill that had the death penalty for drug kingpins in it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And you voted to cut services to 23 million school children under the safe and drug-free schools act. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I don't think that means you're soft on drugs. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We just have a different approach. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
But let me remind you, my family has suffered from drug abuse. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I know what it's like to see somebody you love nearly lose their lives, and I hate drugs, Senator. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We need to do this together and we can. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, on the government, continuing to talk about the government's role. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
If elected President, would you seek to repeal the Brady Bill and the ban on assault weapons? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Not if I didn't have a better idea. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I've got a better idea. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's something I've worked on for 15 years. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's called the automated check or the instant check. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's being used in 17 states right now. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
States like Florida, Colorado, Virginia, and other states. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You don't buy any gun. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You don't get any gun. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've got 20 million names on a computer in Washington, D.C. of people who should not have guns. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We ought to keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And, there are eight other categories that should not have guns. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I've been working on this for a long, long time. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You walk in, you put your little card in there. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
If it says tilt, you don't get any gun. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You don't get a hand gun, you don't get a rifle, you don't get a shot gun, you get zippo. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
If we're going to protect American children and American families and people who live as prisoners in their own home, we've got to stop guns from being dumped on the street. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The administration says they support the instant check. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
They've appropriated about $200 million, but only spent about $3 million to get it underway. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
In our administration, in my administration, we will expedite. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
This keeps up with technology. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It keeps guns out of the hands of people who should not have guns. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
That is the bottom line. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I believe it's a good idea, has strong bipartisan support. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And perhaps that's another thing we can depoliticize. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
You talk about the Brady Bill. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
There has only been one prosecution under the Brady -- only one under the assault weapon ban and only seven under the Brady Bill that you talk about all the time. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And on the assault weapon ban, out of 17 weapons that were banned, only six banned now because eleven have been modified and are back on the street. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let's get together on this instant check because that will really make a difference. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let me say, first of all, Senator Dole has gone back and forth about whether he'd be for repealing the Brady Bill or repealing the assault weapons ban. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I think his present position is he would not do so, and if that's true I'm grateful for it. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
But let's look at the facts here. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
The Brady Bill has kept at least 60,000 felons, fugitives and stalkers from getting hand guns. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole led the fight against the Brady Bill. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
He tried to keep it from coming to my desk. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
He didn't succeed and I signed it and I'm glad I did. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Then when we had the assault weapons ban in the Senate, Senator Dole fought it bitterly and opposed the entire crime bill and almost brought the entire crime bill down because the National Rifle Association didn't want the assault weapons ban, just like they didn't want the Brady Bill. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But two years later nobody's lost their handguns. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I mean, their rifles. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've expanded the Brady Bill to cover people who beat up their spouses and their kids. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And this is a safer country. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
So I'm glad I took on that fight and I believe, with all respect, I was right and he was wrong. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, the President doesn't have it quite right. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I mean, it seemed to me at the time the assault weapon ban was not effective. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But that's history. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I told the NRA that's history. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You're not going to worry about it anymore. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I'm not going to worry about it anymore. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let's do something better. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let's stop, you know, playing the political game, Mr. President. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Talking about this and this. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
You add all the states that've used the instant check and how many weapons they keep, kept out of the hands of criminals. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It would far surpass the numbers you mentioned. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
So in my view, if you want to be protected, you ought to vote for Bob Dole and we'll get the instant check passed and we'll keep guns out of the hands of criminals. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President, Senator Dole said the other day that you practiced a photo-op foreign policy that has lessened the credibility of the United States throughout the world. Jim Lehrer Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Is he wrong about that? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
If he, that's what he said, he's not right about that. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Look at where we are today. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The United States is still the indispensable nation in the aftermath of the Cold War and on the brink of the 21st Century. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I have worked to support our country as the world's strongest force for peace and freedom, prosperity and security. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We have done the following things: Number one, we've managed the aftermath of the Cold War, supporting a big drop in nuclear weapons in Russia. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The removal of Russian troops from the Baltics. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The integration of Central and Eastern European democracies into a new partnership with NATO. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And, I might add, with the democratic Russia. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
There are no nuclear missiles pointed at the children of the United States tonight and have not been in our administration for the first time since the dawn of the nuclear age. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We have worked hard for peace and freedom. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
When I took office, Haiti was governed by a dictator that had defied the United States. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
When I took office, the worst war in Europe was waging in Bosnia. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now there is a the democratically elected president in Haiti. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Peace in Bosnia. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We just had the election there. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've made progress in Northern Ireland, in the Middle East. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've also stood up to the new threats of terrorism. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The proliferation of weapons of mass destruction, organized crime, and we have worked hard to expand America's economic presence around the world with the biggest increase in trade with the largest new number of trade agreements in history And that's one of the reasons America is number one in auto production again. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, I have a different view. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Again, I’ve supported the President on Bosnia, and I think we were told the troops would be out in a year. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now I understand it's been extended 'til some time next year. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But, let's start with Somalia, where they dragged Americans through the streets, and where 18 Americans were killed one day, because they didn't have, they were pinned down for eight hours, the rangers. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
They didn't have the weapons, they didn't have the tanks. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
They asked for the tanks. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
They didn't get the tanks from this administration because we were nation building. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's called mission creep. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
We turn it over to the United Nations. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The President didn't have much to do about it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You look at Haiti, where we spend about three billion dollars and we got an alarm call there about two weeks ago. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You got to send down some more people, because the president's found out there are death squads on his on his, in his own property. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So we need more protection from America. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Bosnia, Northern Ireland. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
There's no ceasefire in Bosnia. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think there are still lot of problems in Bosnia. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We agreed to train and arm the Muslims so they could defend themselves, the policy you had when you ran in 1992. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We haven't done that. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We're way behind, which means Americans can't come home. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Americans shouldn't have gone there in the first place, had we let them defend themselves, as they have a right to do under Article 57 of the United Nations charter. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
First of all, I take full responsibility for what happened in Somalia, but the American people must remember that those soldiers were under an American commander when that happened. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I believe they did the best they could under the circumstances, and let's not forget that hundreds of thousands of lives were saved there. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Secondly, in Haiti, political violence is much, much smaller than it was. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Thirdly, in Bosnia it's a virtual miracle that there has been no return to war and at least there has now been an election. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And institutions are beginning to function. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
In Northern Ireland, in the Middle East we are better off than we were four years ago. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
There will always be problems in this whole world. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
But if we're moving in the right direction and America is leading, we're better off. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, if elected president, what criteria would you use to decide when to send U.S. troops into harm's way. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well it, after World War I, we had, you know, a policy of disengagement. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Then from World War I to World War II we had sort of a compulsory engagement policy. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now I think we have a selective engagement policy. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We have to determine when our interests are involved, not the United Nations' interests. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And many of the things the President talked about, he turned over to the United Nations. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
They decided. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
He's deployed more troops than any president in history around the world. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's cost us billions and billions of dollars for peace-keeping operations. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Look these are facts. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And it seems to me that when you make a decision, the decision is made by the President of the United States, by the Commander-in-Chief. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
He makes that decision when he commits young men or young women who are going to go round and defend our liberty and our freedom. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
That would be my position. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Then I'm going to have a top down review at the Pentagon, not a bottom up review. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We all fight over how much money is there. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I want a top down review to determine what our priorities are and what we should do in defense, and then follow that policy instead of this bottom up review with all the services fighting for the money. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
You know, the President said he was going to cut defense $60 billion, he cut defense $112 billion. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Devastated states like California and others. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I think now we've got a problem. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've got to go back and look. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's just like you said in Texas one day, you know raised taxes too much, and you did, and you cut defense too much, Mr. President, and you did. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
You may have said that, too. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
But the bottom line is, we are the strongest nation in the world. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We provide the leadership and we're going to have to continue to provide the leadership, but let's do it on our terms when our interests are involved and not when somebody blows the whistle at the United Nations. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Our military is the strongest military in the world. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It is the strongest, best prepared, best equipped it has ever been. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
There is very little difference in the budget that I proposed and the Republican budget over the next six-year period. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We are spending a lot of money to modernize our weapons system. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I have proposed a lot of new investments to improve the quality of life for our soldiers, for our men and women in uniform, for their families, for their training. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
That is my solemn obligation. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
You ask when do you decide to deploy them. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
The interests of the American people must be at stake. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Our values must be at stake. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We have to be able to make a difference. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And frankly we have to consider what the risks are to our young men and women in uniform. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I believe the evidence is that our deployments have been successful, in Haiti, in Bosnia, when we moved to Kuwait to repel Saddam Hussein's threatened invasion of Kuwait. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
When I have sent the fleet into the Taiwan straits. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
When we've worked hard to end the Northern Korean nuclear threat. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I believe the United States is at peace tonight in part because of the disciplined, careful, effective deployment of our military resources. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well I failed to mention North Korea and Cuba, a while ago. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
You look at North Korea where they have enough plutonium to build six nuclear bombs. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've sort of distanced ourselves from our ally, South Korea. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
They lost about a million people in the war, the Korean War, the forgotten war. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We lost 53,000 Americans. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We shouldn't be doing any favors for North Korea. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's a closed society. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We don't have any inspection. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We don't know whether it's going to work or not, but we keep giving the incentives. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Someone called them something else. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Incentives. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
We don't know what's going to happen. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Here we have Cuba 90 miles from our shores, and what have we done, we passed the law that gave people a right to sue and the President postponed it for six months. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And it seemed to me if you want to send a signal, you've got to send a signal, Mr. President. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The sooner the better off we'll be, if you put tougher sanctions on Castro, not try to make it easier for him. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President, what is your attitude toward Cuba and how Cuba should be treated? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, first of all, for the last four years we have worked had to put more and more pressure on the Castro government to bring about more openness and move toward democracy. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
In 1992, before I became President, the Congress passed the Cuba Democracy Act and I enforced it vigorously. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We made the embargo tougher but we increased contacts people to people with the Cubans, including direct telephone service, which was largely supported by the Cuban-American community. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Then Cuba shot down two of our planes and murdered four people in international air space. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
They were completely beyond the pale of the law, and I signed the Helms-Burton legislation. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole is correct. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I did give about six months before the effective date of the act before lawsuits can actually be filed, even though they're effective now, and can be legally binding, because I want to change Cuba. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And the United States needs help from other countries. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Nobody in the world agrees with our policy on Cuba now. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But this law can be used as leverage to get other countries to help us to move Cuba to democracy. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Every single country in Latin America, Central America and the Caribbean is a democracy tonight but Cuba. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And if we stay firm and strong, we will be able to bring Cuba around as well. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's the point I made. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
We have to be firm and strong. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I hope that will happen. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
It will happen starting next January and maybe it can happen the balance of this year. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We have not been firm and strong. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You look at the poor people who still live in Cuba. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's a haven for drug smugglers and we don't have a firm policy when it comes to Fidel Castro. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
In my view, the policy has failed. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
So Congress passes the law, the President signs it, like he does a lot of things. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But he, like welfare reform, I'm going to sign it but I'm going to try to change it next year. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
A lot of these election-year conversions, the President talks about the drug money, and all the other things, all this antismoking campaign all happened in 1996. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I think the people viewing out there ought to go back and take a look at the record when he fought a balanced budget amendment. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
When he gave you that biggest tax increase in history; when he tried to take over your healthcare system. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
When he fought regulatory reform that cost the average family 6 to $7,000 a year. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
This is a serious business. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's about your family; it's about your business, and in this case it's about a firmer policy with Cuba. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
There were several off-the-subject quaffers in that litany. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let me just mention, Senator Dole voted for $900 billion in tax increases. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
His running mate Jack Kemp once said that Bob Dole never met a tax he didn't hike. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And everybody knows, including the Wall Street Journal, hardly a friend of the Democratic party of this administration, that the '82 tax increase he sponsored in inflation-adjusted dollars was the biggest tax increase in American history. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So we ought to at least get the facts out here on the table so we can know where to go from here. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, you mentioned health reform several times. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
What do you think should be done about the healthcare system? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let me first answer that question about the 1982 tax cut. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
We were closing loopholes, we were going after big corporations. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I know you probably would oppose it, Mr. President, but I think we should have a fairer system and a flatter system, and we'll have a fairer and flatter system and we're going to make the economic package work. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Healthcare. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, we finally passed the Kassebaum bill. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The President was opposed to it in 1993. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
He wanted to give us this big system, that took over about one-seventh of the economy, that put on price controls, created all these state alliances, and would cost $1.5 trillion and force people into managed care, whether they wanted it or not. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Most people want to see their own doctor. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
They're going to see their own doctor when Bob Dole is president. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We won't threaten anybody. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
So we passed the Kassebaum-Kennedy, the Kennedy Kassebaum bill that will cover about 20 to 25 million people. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've been for that for four, five, six years. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The President held it up. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And even when it finally got near passage, Senator Kennedy held it up for 100 days, because he wasn't satisfied with one provision. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But it will cover preexisting conditions. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
If you change your job, you're going to be covered. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So there are a lot of good things in this bill we should have done instead of trying this massive, massive takeover by the Federal government. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
But then of course we had a Democratic Congress and they didn't want to do that. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Until we got a Republican Congress, we finally got action, I'm proud of my colleagues in the Republican Party for getting that done. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It means a lot to a lot of people watching us tonight. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, that sounds very good, but it's very wrong. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole remembers well that we actually offered not to even put in a healthcare bill in 1994, uh '93, but instead to work with the Senate Republicans and write a joint bill. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And they said no because they got a memo from one of their political advisers saying that instead they should characterize whatever we did as big government and make sure nothing was done to aid healthcare before the '94 elections so they could make that claim. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, maybe we bit off more than we could chew, but we're pursuing a step-by-step reform now. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The Kennedy-Kassebaum bill that I signed will make it possible for 25 million people to keep their health insurance when they change jobs or when somebody in their family's been sick. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I signed a bill to stop these drive-by deliveries when insurance companies can force people out of the hospital after 24 hours and I vetoed Senator Dole's Medicare plan that would have forced a lot of seniors into managed care and taken a lot more money out of their pockets and led to Medicare withering on the vine. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, many of the provisions in the Kassebaum bill were provisions that -- my provisions, like deductions for long-term care, making certain that self-employed people that are watching tonight can deduct not 30 percent but 80 percent of you pay for premiums. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You can also deduct long-term care now, so it's a good it's a good start. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think there's enough -- we're even looking at our tax cut proposal, our economic package. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
There may be a way of reaching out to the uninsured, because there are a lot of uninsured people in the country, particularly children, that should be covered. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Another way you can do is to expand Medicaid. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
In America no one will go without healthcare, no one will go without food. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator, go ahead and finish your sentence. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
All right. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Food. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Back to foreign affairs for a moment, Mr. President. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Are you satisfied with the way you handled this last Iraq crisis and the end result? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, I believe that we did the appropriate thing under the circumstances. Jim Lehrer Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Saddam Hussein is under a U.N. resolution not to threaten his neighbors or threaten his own, repress his own citizens. Jim Lehrer Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Unfortunately, a lot of people, have never been as concerned about the Kurds as the United States has tried to be, and we've been flying an operation to protect them out of Turkey for many years now. Jim Lehrer Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
What happened was one of the Turkish, one of the Kurdish leaders invited him to go up north, but we felt since the whole world community had told him not to do it, that once he did it we had to do something. Jim Lehrer Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We did not feel that I could commit. Jim Lehrer Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I certainly didn't feel I should commit American troops to throw him out of where he had gone, and that was the only way to do that. Jim Lehrer Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So the appropriate thing strategically to do was to reduce his ability to threaten his neighbors. Jim Lehrer Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We did that by expanding what's called the no-fly zone by increasing our allies' control of the air space now from the Kuwait border to the suburbs of Baghdad. Jim Lehrer Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Was it the right thing to do? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I believe it was. Jim Lehrer Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Is it fully effective? Jim Lehrer Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Did it make him withdraw from the north? Jim Lehrer Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, he does , he has a little bit, and I hope he will continue. Jim Lehrer Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We have learned that you give him an inch he'll take a mile. Jim Lehrer Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We had to do something, and even though not all of our allies supported it at first, I think most of them now believe that what we did was an appropriate thing to do. Jim Lehrer Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, the president's own CIA director says Saddam is stronger now than he was. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I don't understand extending the no-fly zone in the south when the trouble was in the north. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And what we've done during the Bush administration, the Kurds were at the State Department, negotiating, trying to work their differences out. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now we've got all thousands and thousands of refugees. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We're even shipping 3,000 Kurds to Guam. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It involves Turkey. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's a real problem. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Saddam is probably about as strong as he ever was. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We shot, what, 44 cruise missiles, worth about a million-two a piece, and hit some radar, that repaired in a couple, three days. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Did we inflict any damage? Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
No. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Did we have any allies helping? Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, we have Great Britain. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
They're always very loyal to us, and I appreciate that. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And of course Kuwait. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Even though they had to find out they had 5,000 troops coming, they didn't even understand that. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We had to get their permission. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The bottom line is, we went in there alone. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
We are supposed to be operating under a U.N. resolution. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We did it without any of our allies that helped in the Gulf. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole has two or three times before tonight criticized me for working with the U.N. Now I'm being criticized for not working with the U.N. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's not the U.N. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Sometimes the United States has to act alone or at least has to act first. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Sometimes we cannot let other countries have a veto on our foreign policy. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I could not send soldiers into the north of Iraq, that would have been wrong. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It could reduce Saddam Hussein's abilities to threaten Kuwait and his other neighbors again. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's what I did. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I still believe it was the right thing to do. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, on your photo-op foreign policy charge against the President -- Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Not mine. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Oh, No, no. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I mean your charge against the President, that he has a photo-op foreign policy. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Does the Middle East summit last week fall into that category? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, there were some good pictures, but does it fall into that category? Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I don't know. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I want to be very serious. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I've supported the President when I thought he was right on Bosnia. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I supported him on NAFTA and GATT. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So it's not that we always disagree. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Others disagreed with us. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The Mideast is very difficult. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
But it seemed to me just as an observer that you know before you'd call somebody to America, you'd have some notion what the end result might be. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now maybe it's better just to get together and sit down and talk. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Maybe that was the purpose. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I know talks have started again today. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But again it's almost like an ad hoc foreign policy. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's ad hoc, it's sort of we get up in the morning and read the papers, what country's in trouble, we'll have a meeting. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now, to me that's not the strategy that I think people expect from America. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think we have lost credibility, and I say this very honestly without any partisanship. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've lost credibility around the world. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Our allies know, -- they're not certain what we're going to do, what our reaction, what our response is going to be. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Nobody suggested sending troops to Iraq, if that was the hint there from the President. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I do think that Saddam Hussein is stronger than he was. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I do believe that we didn't gain a great deal in the Mideast by bringing three of the four leaders, one refused to come, to Washington D.C. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We have a very consistent policy in the Middle East: It is to support the peace process; to support the security of Israel; and to support those who are prepared to take risks for peace. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It is a very difficult environment. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
The feelings are very strong. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
There are extremists in all parts of the Middle East who want to kill that peace process. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Prime Minister Rabin gave his life because someone in his own country literally hated him for trying to bring peace. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I would like to have had a big, organized summit, but those people were killing each other, rapidly, innocent Arab children, innocent Israeli people, they were dying. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And there is ,so much trust has broken down in the aftermath of the change of government. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I felt that if I could just get the parties together to say let's stop the violence, start talking, commit to the negotiations, that would be a plus. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now today the Secretary of State is in the Middle East and they've started negotiations and all those leaders promised me they would not quit until they resolved the issues between them and got the peace process going forward again. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, I was disappointed. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
The President has not called for an unconditional end to the violence. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
It seemed to me the violence stopped when these leaders came to America. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
The killing and tragedies had taken place. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And it is unfortunate, it is a difficult area, no doubt about it. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
It shouldn't be politicized in any way by the President or by his opponent. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I don't intend to politicize it. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I hope they talked and I hope they've reached some result and that the killing will end. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Thank you. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President, in your acceptance speech in Chicago, you said the real choice in this race is, quote, whether we build a bridge to the future or a bridge to the past; about whether we believe our best days are still out there or our best days are behind us; about whether we want a country of people all working together or one where you're on your own, end quote. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Are you saying that you believe Senator Dole is a man of the past and if elected president he would lead the country backward? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, I'm saying that Senator Dole said in his fine speech in San Diego that he wanted to build a bridge to the past. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I think I know what he meant by that. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
He's troubled, as I am, by some of the things that go on today. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I believe America is the greatest country in human history because we have maintained freedom and increasing prosperity by relentlessly pushing the barriers of knowledge, the barriers of the present, always moving into the future. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's why when I became President I was determined to kind of move beyond this whole stale debate that had gone on in Washington for too long to get this country moving again. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And that's why we've got a country with ten and a half million more jobs, and record numbers of new businesses, and rising incomes, and falling crime rates, and welfare roll rates. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's why we're moving in the right direction. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I'm trying to emphasize that what I want to do is to continue to do that. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's why my balanced budget plan will still invest and grow this economy. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's why I want a tax cut for education and child rearing, but it's got to be paid for. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's why I want to continue the work we have done over partisan opposition, to work with communities to bring that crime rate down until our streets are all safe again. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
These are my commitments. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I am very oriented toward the future. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think this election has to be geared toward the future. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think America's best days are still ahead, but we've got to build the right bridge. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
You know, the President reminds me sometimes of my brother Kenny, who is no longer alive. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But Kenny was a great talker. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And he used to tell me things that I knew were not quite accurate. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So we always had a rule, we divided by six. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Maybe in your case maybe just two. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But 11 million new jobs and everything, I mean the President can't take credit for everything that governors are doing, whether that's happening in New York City when it comes to the murder rate and then not be responsible for the bad things that happen, whether it's drug use or something else in America. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
So it seems to me that we can talk about what we call Kenny, the great exaggerator. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
He just liked to make it sound exager, a little better, made him feel better. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
When it comes to bridges, I want a bridge to the future. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I also want a bridge to the truth. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We have to tell the truth. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've got people watching tonight and listening tonight trying to find the truth. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And the truth is, there is a lot wrong with America. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We need a strong economic package; we need a tax cut; we need the $500 child credit, and we'll have that soon. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I do not for a moment think I'm entitled to all the credit for all the good things that have happened in America. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
But where I have moved to work with the American people to help them have the tools to make the most of their own lives, I think I should get some credit for that. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I also personally took responsibility tonight when Senator Dole asked me about the drug problem. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But, you know, I think my ideas are better for the future. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole voted against student loans, against Headstart, against creating the Department of Education. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
If he gets elected president, we'll start the new century without anyone in the cabinet of the President representing education in our children. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I personally don't think that's the right kind of future for America, and I think we ought to take a different tack. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, do you still favor eliminating the Department of Education. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Yes. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I didn't favor it when it was in, started. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I voted against it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It was a tribute after President Carter's election to the National Education Association who send a lot of delegates to the Democratic convention, who gives 99.5 percent of their money, Democrat Democrats, and the President, and a lot of the teachers send their kids to private schools or better public schools. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So what we want to do is called opportunity scholarships. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now, some say, oh, you're a Republican, you can't be reaching out to these people. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I've reached out to people all my life. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I've worked on the food stamp program, proudly. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And the WIC program, and the school lunch program with senators like George McGovern, Hubert Humphrey and others, to name a few of my Democratic friends. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I'm not some extremist out here. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I care about people. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I have my own little foundation that's raised about $10 million for the disabled. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I don't advertise it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Just did, haven't before. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I try to do a lot of things that I think might be helpful to people. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
So it seems to me that we ought to take that money we can save from the Department of Education, put it into opportunity scholarships and tell little Landale Shakespeare out in Cleveland, Ohio, and tell your mother and father, you're going to get to go to school because we're going to match what the state puts up, and you're going to go to the school of your choice. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I don't fault the President or the vice president for sending their children to private schools or better schools. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I applaud them for it, I don't criticize them. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But why shouldn't everybody have that choice. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Why shouldn't low income Americans and low middle income Americans. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I'm excited about it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's going to be a big, big opportunity for a lot of people. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let me say first of all, I'm all for students having more choices. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've worked hard to expand public school choice in my balanced budget bill. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
There's funds for 3,000 new schools created by teachers and parents, sometimes by business people, called charter schools that have no rules, they're free of bureaucracy and can only stay in existence if they perform and teach children. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The ones that are out there are doing well. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
What I'm against is Senator Dole's plan to take money away from all the children we now help with limited Federal funds and help far fewer. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
If we're going to have a private voucher plan, that ought to be done at the local level or the state level. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
But Senator Dole has consistently opposed Federal help to education. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
He voted against student loans; he voted against my improved student loan plan; he voted against the National Service bill, against the HeadStart bill; he voted against our efforts in safe and drug-free schools. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
He voted against these programs, he does not believe it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's the issue. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
90 percent of our kids are out there in those public schools and we need to lift their standards and move them forward with the programs like those I've outlined in this campaign. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I'd better correct the President. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I don't know what time it is, but it's probably getting late. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I want to correct, the all these things I voted against, they were probably part of some big package that had a lot of pork in it or a lot of things that we shouldn't have had and we probably voted no. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I've supported all the education programs. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I've supported Headstart, I think we ought to look at it. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
So I don't want anybody out there to think we've just been voting no, no, no. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let's give low income parents the same right that people of power and prestige have in America and let them go to better schools. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let's not, let's help, let's turn the schools back to the teachers and back to the parents and take it away from the National Education Association. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President, what is wrong with the school choice proposal? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I support school choice. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I support school choice. William(Bill) J. Clinton NaN 1996 06 Oct 1996
I have advocated expansions of public school choice alternatives and I said the creation of 3,000 new schools that we are going to help the states to finance. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But if you're going to have a private voucher plan, that ought to be determined by states in localities where they're raising and spending most of the money. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I simply think it's wrong to take money away from programs that are helping build basic skills for kids, 90 percent of them are in the public schools; to take money away from programs that are helping fund the school lunch program, that are helping to fund the other programs, that are helping our schools to improve their standards. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Our schools are getting better, and our schools can be made to be even better still with the right kind of community leadership and partnership at the school level. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I have been a strong force for reform. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And, Senator, I remind you that a few years ago when I supported teacher testing while in my home state I was pretty well lambasted by the teachers association. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I just don't believe we ought to be out there running down teachers and attacking them the way you did at the Republican convention. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think we ought to be lifting them up and moving our children forward. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And let me just say that budget that you passed that I vetoed would have cut 50,000 kids out of Headstart. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It would have eliminated the AmeriCorps plan and it would have cut back on student loans and scholarships. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now, it would have. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's a fact. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's one of the big reasons I vetoed it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We need to be doing more in education, not less. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, the AmeriCorps program, I must say, if that's one of your successes, I wouldn't speak about it too loudly. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It costs about $27,000 to pay people to volunteer. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've got four million young people volunteering every year, the number hasn't gone down. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And you pick out 20,000, whether they need the money or not, and they get paid for volunteering. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I like young people. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I like teachers. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I'm a product of a public school. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You attended a private school for some time in your life. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I like teachers. Robert J. Dole NaN 1996 06 Oct 1996
You're not for school choice, you can't be for school choice, because this is that special interest money again. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
When you get 99.5 percent of the money, we don't know what happened to the other .5 percent, we're looking for it, somebody got it, but it all went to Democrats. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And this is part of that liberal establishment, one of those liberal things that you just can't do. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You're for school uniforms and curfews and you're opposed to truancy. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now that's not reform, Mr. President. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Why can't Landale Shakespeare in Cleveland or Pilar Gonzales in Milwaukee give their children an opportunity to go to a better school. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Some schools aren't safe. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Some schools aren't even safe. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Your choice is nothing. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let's give them a real choice, the kind of choice you had, and the kind of choice a lot of people have in America. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
If we want to stop crime and teenage pregnancy, let's start with education. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
First of all, Senator Dole, let's set the record straight. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I was able for two years when I was in, a very young boy to go to a Catholic school, but I basically went to public schools all my life. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I've worked hard for a long time to make them better, 90 percent of our kids are there. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You, it's amazing to me, you are all for having more responsibility at the local level for everything except schools. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Where we don't have very much money at the Federal level to spend on education, we ought to spend it helping the 90 percent of the kids that we can help. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
If a local school district in Cleveland or anyplace else wants to have a private choice plan like Milwaukee did, let them have at it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I might say the results are highly ambiguous. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I want to get out there and give a better education opportunity to all of our children and that's why I vetoed the budget you passed with $30 billion in education cuts. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It was wrong, and my plan for the future is better. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, at the Republican convention you said the following and I quote, it is demeaning to the nation that within the Clinton Administration a core of the elite who never grew up, never did anything real, never sacrificed, never suffered, and never learned should have the power to fund with your earnings their dubious and self-serving schemes, end quote. Jim Lehrer Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Whom precisely and what precisely did you have in mind? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I had precisely in mind a lot of the people that were in the White House and other agencies who've never been had any experience, who came to Washington without any experience, they all were very liberal, of course, or they wouldn't be in the administration. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And their idea was that they knew what was best for the American people. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now, I feel very strongly about a lot of things. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I feel strongly about education. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I want to help young people have an education, just as I had an education after World War II with the GI bill of Rights. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've had millions of young men and women in subsequent subsequent wars change the face of the nation because the government helped with their education. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now the reason they don't have, The reason the President can't support this is pretty obvious. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's not taking anything away from schools, it's new money. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's not being taken away from anybody else, except we'll downsize the Department of Education. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
But this is a very liberal administration. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
This is an administration that gave you the big tax cut. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
This administration tried to take over healthcare and impose a governmental system. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
This is the administration that fought regulatory reform that is putting a lot of small businessmen and small businesswomen out of business. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
This is the administration that fought the balanced budget amendment and vetoed a balanced budget and vetoed welfare reform twice, and the list goes on and on and on, that's what I had in mind. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I want people in my administration and will have people in my administration who understand America. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
There won't be 10 millionaires and 14 lawyers in the cabinet. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
There will be people with experience and people who understand America and people who've made it and know the hard knocks in life. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
When Senator Dole made that remark about all the elitists, all the young elitists in the administration, one of the young men who works for me who grew up in a house trailer looked at me and said, Mr. President, I know how you grew up, who is he talking about. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And you know this liberal charge, that's what their party always drags out when they get in a tight race. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's sort of their golden oldie, you know. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's a record they think they can play that everybody loves to hear. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I just don't think that dog will hunt this time. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
The American people should make up their own mind. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Here's the record: We cut deficit four years in a row for the first time before the Civil War -- I mean, before World War II, and maybe before the Civil War, too. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've got ten and a half million new jobs; we've got record numbers of those new small businesses. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've made every one of them eligible for a tax cut. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've got declining crime rates, two million fewer people on welfare rolls before welfare reform passed, and a 50 percent increase in child support and a crime bill with 60 death penalties and 100,000 police and the assault weapons ban. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The American people can make up their mind about whether that's a liberal record or a record that's good for America. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Liberal, conservative, you put whatever label you want on it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, I think it's pretty liberal, I'll put that label on it. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
You take a look at all the programs you've advocated, Mr. President. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Thank goodness we had a Republican Congress there. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
The first thing you did when you came into office was set up the stimulus package, said we've got a little pork we want to scatter around America, $16 billion. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And even some in your own party couldn't buy that. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I remember talking by the telephone. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I'm not even certain you were too excited about that. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I won't, I never repeat what I've talked to the President about. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
In any event, we saved the taxpayers $16 billion. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And then came some other program, and then came healthcare, and then came the tax increase and a lot of these things stopped in 1994 because then the Congress changed, and I think we've done a good job. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President, if you're not a liberal, describe your political philosophy. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I believe that the purpose of politics is to give people the tools to make the most of their own lives; to reinforce the values of opportunity and responsibility, and to build a sense of community so we're all working together. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I don't believe in discrimination. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I believe you can protect the environment and grow the economy. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I believe that we have to do these things with a government that's smaller and less bureaucratic, but that we have to do them nonetheless. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's inconvenient for Senator Dole, but the truth is I've reduced the size of government more than my Republican predecessors. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I did stop them, I admit that. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I sure stopped their budget. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Their budget cut enforcement for the Environmental Protection Agency by a third. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It cut funds to clean up toxic waste dumps with 10 million of our kids still living within four miles of a toxic waste dump, by a third. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It ended the principle that the polluters should pay for those toxic waste dumps unless it was very recent. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Their budget weakened our support for education. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
$30 billion, even cut funds for scholarships and college loans. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Their budget cut $270 billion in Medicare and, finally, their budget withdrew the national guarantee of healthcare to poor children, families with children with handicaps, the elderly in nursing homes, poor pregnant women. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It was wrong for the country and calling it conservative won't make it right. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It was a bad decision for America and would have been bad for our future if I hadn't stopped it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, the President can define himself in any way he wants, but I think we have to look at the record. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Go back to the time he was, what, Texas director for George McGovern. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
George McGovern is a friend of mine, so I don't mean, but he was a liberal, proud liberal. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I've just finished reading a book, I think it's called -- what is it called, what is it, The Demise of the Democratic Party by Ronald Cardash (ph) or something talking about all the liberal influences in the administration. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Whether it's organized labor or whether it's the Hollywood elite or whether some of the media elite or whether it's the labor unions or whatever. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And so I think you take a look at it. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
The bottom line is this: I think the American people, thought he'd recite all these bills and all these things, they want to know what's going to happen to them. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
They've all got a lot of anxieties out there. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Did anybody complain when you raised taxes? Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Did anybody go out and ask the people, how are you going to pay the extra money? Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's why we want an economic package. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We want the government to pinch their pennies for a change instead of the people pinching their pennies. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's what our message is to the people watching. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Not all this back and forth, you voted this way, you voted that way, we want a better America as we go into the next century. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
The way you get a better America is to balance the budget and protect Medicare, Medicaid, education and the environment; to give a targeted tax cut -- and let me talk about the education tax cut -- to let people have a $10,000 deduction for the cost of college tuition in any year, any kind of college tuition; to give families a tax credit, a dollar for dollar reduction in their taxes for the cost of a typical community college so we can open that to everybody. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And then to let people save in an IRA and withdraw from it without a tax penalty for education, home buying or medical expenses, that's the right way to go into the 21st Century, balance the budget and cut taxes, not balloon with this $550 billion tax scheme. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, we've talked mostly now about differences between the two of you that relate to policy issues and that sort of thing. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Are there also significant differences in the more personal area that are relevant to this election? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let me say first, on the President's promise for another tax cut. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I mean, I've told people as I've traveled around, all of you that got the tax cut he promised last time, vote for him in '96 and not many hands go up. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So the question is, would you buy a used election promise from my opponent. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
The people want economic reform. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
They're having a hard time making ends meet. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You've got one parent working for the government, the other parent working for the family. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
This is important business. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
This is about getting the economy moving again. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
This is about American jobs and opportunities. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's about the government, as I said before, pinching its pennies for a change instead of the poor taxpayer. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
When they raise your taxes nobody runs around asking people where are you going to get the extra money. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think the government can do better. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Are there personal differences? Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
That are relevant to this. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, my blood pressure is lower, my weight, my cholesterol, but I will not make health an issue in this campaign. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
So I think he's a bit taller than I am. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I think there are personal differences. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I mean, I'm not I don't like to get into personal matters. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
As far as I'm concerned, this is a campaign about issues. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's about my vision for America and about his liberal vision for America. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And not about personal things. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You know, I think his liberal vision is a thing of the past. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I know he wants to disown it. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I wouldn't want to be a liberal either, Mr. President, but you're stuck with it because that's your record, that's your record in Arkansas: The biggest tax increase in history. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The biggest crime increase in history, the biggest drug increase in history in Arkansas. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, just for the record, when I was governor we had the lowest -- second lowest tax burden of any state in the country, the highest job growth rate of any state when I ran for president and were widely recognized for a lot of other advances. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But the important thing is, what are we going to do now. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think a targeted tax cut is better for our future, targeted to education and child rearing, with the rest of the education plan, hooking up all of our classrooms to the Internet by the year 2000. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Making sure we've got an army of reading volunteers, trained people to teach with parents and teachers so that our eight year olds can learn to read. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Investing in our environment. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Cleaning up two-thirds of the worst toxic waste dumps. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Those plans are better than this $550 billion tax scheme. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now, remember, folks, even Senator Dole's campaign co-chair here, Senator D'Amato, says he's got to cut Medicare to pay for this. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Everybody who's looked at it, 500 economists, seven Nobel prize winners, say it's bad for the economy. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's going to blow a hole in the deficit It's going to raise taxes on nine million people and require bigger cuts than the one I vetoed. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Our plan is better, it will take us into the future with a growing economy and healthier families. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, I'm really encouraged to know of your renewed friendship with Al D'Amato, and I know he appreciates it. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
You didn't even have tax cuts in your budget, Mr. President, the first two years you were president. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It wasn't until we had a Republican Congress you even thought about, you talked about tax cuts. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Getting back to personal differences, I think, Jim, if you are a little more specific, but I think the President could clarify one thing tonight and that's the question of pardons. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I know you talked about it on the Jim, with Jim Lehrer on the PBS show. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I've never discussed Whitewater, as I've told you personally. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I'm not discussing Whitewater now. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I am discussing the power the President has to grant pardons. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And hopefully in the next segment you could lay that to rest. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, first of all, you know, he made that remark about Senator D'Amato. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
He's arranged for me to spend a lot more time with Senator D'Amato in the last couple years so I'm more familiar with his comments than I used to be. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let me say what I've said already about this pardon issue. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
This is an issue they've brought up. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's under, there's been no consideration of it, no discussion of it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I will tell you this: I will not give anyone special treatment and I will strictly adhere to the law. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And that is what every president has done, as far as I know, in the past but what every other president's has done. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
This is something I take seriously and that's my position. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
But it seems to me the president shouldn't have any comment at all. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Particularly where it's someone where you've had business dealings. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I mean, you may be sending a signal. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I don't know, I'm not questioning anybody. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
But as a President of the United States, when somebody asks you about pardons, you say no comment, period. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I think he made a mistake. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I think when you make a mistake, you say I made a mistake. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
But apparently his position hasn't changed. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
If there are other specific areas, but beyond that I haven't gotten into any of these things, as the President knows. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
We've had that discussion. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And again I know Senator D'Amato I think may have had a hearing or two on Whitewater, I can't remember, but he's not my general chairman, he's a friend of mine. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And so is Senator Kennedy a friend of yours. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
You bet. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I remember one day on the floor I said now, gentlemen, let me tax your memories, and Kennedy jumped up and said, why haven't we thought of that before. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You know, so one of your liberal friends. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Thank you. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President, 30 seconds. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
No comment. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
What's the subject matter? Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, if you could single out one thing that you would like for the voters to have in their mind about President Clinton on a policy matter or a personal matter, what would it be? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Something to know about him, understand it and appreciate it. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
See, if I say anything it's going to be misconstrued. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I don't think there is even a race between the two, it's about our vision for America. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I happen to like President Clinton personally. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I'm addressing him all evening as Mr. President. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I said in 1992 he didn't extend that courtesy to President Bush. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I respect the presidency. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I've served under a number of presidents. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
They all have their strengths and they all have their weaknesses. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So I'd rather talk about my strengths. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I think I have my strengths and I think the best thing going for Bob Dole is that Bob Dole keeps his word. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's a question between trust and fear, and I would say, I think, Mr. President, about all you've got going in this campaign is fear. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
You're spending millions and millions of dollars in negative ads frightening senior citizens. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I know this to be a fact because I had one tell me last week, Senator don't cut my Medicare. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I'm trying to save your Medicare, just as I rescued Social Security with a bipartisan commission. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I have relatives on Medicare. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I used to sign welfare checks for my grandparents. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I know all about poverty and all about need and all about taking care of people, and that's been my career in the United States Senate. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I'll keep my word on the economic package. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
If I couldn't cut taxes and balance the budget the same time, I wouldn't look at you in the eye in your living room or wherever you might be and say that this is good for America. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
People will tell you who served with Bob Dole, agree or disagree, he kept his word. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's what this race is all about. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I'd like the American people to know that I have worked very hard to be on their side. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And to move this country forward and we're better off than we were four years ago. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
But the most important thing is my plan for the 21st Century is a better plan. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
A targeted tax cut, a real commitment to educational reform. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
A deep commitment to making welfare reform work with incentives to the private sector to move people from welfare to work. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Now we have to create those jobs, now that we're requiring people to go do work. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
A commitment to continuing step-by-step healthcare reform with the next step helping people who are between jobs to access healthcare and not lose it just because they are out of work for a while. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
A commitment to grow the economy while protecting the environment. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's what I'd like them to know about me; that I've gotten up every day and worked for the American people and worked so that their children could have their dreams come true. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I believe we've got the results to show we're on the right track. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
The most important thing is, I believe we've got the right ideas for the future. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I like, I like Senator Dole, you can probably tell we like each other. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We just see the world in different ways. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And you folks out there are going to have to choose who you think is right. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, I'd say the first homeless bill in the Senate was the Dole-Byrd Byrd-Dole bill, I can't remember who was in control then. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I remember working with Senator Ribicoff from Connecticut on the Hospice program. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We now have 2500 hospices. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
As I said, I've worked all my life when I was in the Congress. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I left on June 11th because I wanted the American people to know that I was willing to give up something. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
President Clinton ran for governor in 1990 and said he's going to fill out his term, but he didn't. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
He's president so I guess it's a little better deal. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I wanted the American people to know I was willing to give up something. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I wasn't just getting more power and more power. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So I rolled the dice, I put my career on the line because I really believe the future of America is on the line. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We can give you all these numbers, they don't mean a thing. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
If you are out of work, you have nothing to eat or you can't have medical care, or you're holding a crack baby in your arms right now, what do you do next? Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
You know, America's best days are ahead of us. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I've seen the tough times, I know they can be better and I'll lead America to a brighter future. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President, what do you say to Senator Dole's point that this election is about keeping one's word? Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let's look at that. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
When I ran for president, I said we'd cut the deficit in half in four years; we cut it by 60 percent. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I said that our economic plan would produce eight million jobs, we have ten and a half million new jobs. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We're number one in autos again, record numbers of new small businesses. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I said we'd put, pass a crime bill that would put 100,000 police on the street, ban assault weapons, and deal with the problems that ought to be dealt with with capital punishment, including capital punishment for drug kingpins, and we did that. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I said we would change the way welfare works, and even before the bill passed we'd moved nearly two million people from welfare to work, working with states and communities. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I said we'd get tougher with child support and child support enforcement's up 50 percent. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I said that I would work for tax relief for middle class Americans. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The deficit was bigger than I thought it was going to be. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think they're better off, all of us are, that we got the interest rates down and the deficit down. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Republicans talk about it, but we're the first the first administration in anybody's lifetime looking at this program to bring that deficit down four years in a row. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We still gave tax cuts to 15 million working Americans, and now I've got a plan that's been out there for two years, it could have been passed already, but instead the Republicans shut the government down to try to force their budget and their plan on me, and I couldn't take that. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But we'll get the rest of that tax relief. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And so I think when you look at those results, you know the plan I've laid out for the future has a very good chance of being enacted if you'll give me a chance to build that bridge to the 21st Century. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, there he goes again, that line has been used before, I mean, exaggerating all the things that he did. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
He didn't do all these things. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let's take all these four years in a row. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
He came in with a high growth rate, the 1990 budget agreement, which some, you know, didn't like, had some very tough cost controls, put a lot of pressure on Congress. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The S & L crisis was over, they're starting to sell assets, all that money was coming in. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And he cut defense an extra $60 billion, threw a lot of people out of work. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
He talks about a smaller government. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
There are actually more people in government except for people in defense related jobs. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
They're gone. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
The government's bigger than it was when President Kennedy was around, even though he says it's not. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
In addition, Republican Congress cut $53 billion. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So let's just, let's give credit where credit is due. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Governor Engler of Michigan cut taxes 21 times, created a lot of new jobs. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
So did Governor Thompson, so did Governor Rowland. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
A lot of people ought to deserve credit, Mr. President. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
When I'm President of the United States we're going to have a governors' council and we're going to work directly with the governors to get power back to the people and back to the states. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think a lot of people deserve credit and I've tried to give it to them. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I believe that my plan is better than Senator Dole's ill-advised $550 billion scheme which I'll say again will blow a hole in the deficit. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Our plan will balance the budget, grow the economy, preserve the environment, and invest in education. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We have the right approach for the future and looks at the results. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
It is not midnight in America, Senator. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
We are better off than we were four years ago. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
All right. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
That's the last question, the last answer. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Let's go now to the closing statements. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Mr. President, you're first. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Two minutes. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Well, first, Jim, let me thank you and thank you, Senator Dole, and thank you, ladies and gentlemen, all of you listening tonight for the chance you've given us to appear. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I want to say in the beginning that I am profoundly grateful for the chance that you have given me to serve as president for the last four years. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I never could have dreamed anything like this would come my way in life, and I've done my best to be faithful to the charge you've given me. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I'm proud of the fact that America is stronger and more prosperous and more secure than we were four years ago. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I'm glad we're going in the right direction. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I've done my best tonight to lay out my plans for going forward to an even better future in the next century. William(Bill) J. Clinton O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I'd like to leave you with the thought that the things I do as president are basically driven by the people whose lives I have seen affected by what does or doesn't happen in this country. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
The auto worker in Toledo who was unemployed when I was elected and now has a great job because we're number one in auto production again. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
All the people I've met who used to be on welfare who are now working and raising their children. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I think what others could do for our country and themselves if we did the welfare reform thing in the proper way. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think of the man who grabbed me by the shoulder once with tears in his eyes and said his daughter was dying of cancer and he thanked me for giving him a chance to spend some time with her without losing his job because of the Family and Medical Leave Act. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I think of all the people I grew up with and went to school with and who I stay in touch with and who nerve let me forget how what we do in Washington affects all of you out there in America. William(Bill) J. Clinton Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
Folks, we can build that bridge to the 21st Century, big enough and strong enough for all of us to walk across, and I hope you will help me build it. William(Bill) J. Clinton Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
Senator Dole, your closing statement, sir. Jim Lehrer O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Thank you, Jim; thank you, Mr. President; thank everyone for watching and listening. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
I want to address my remarks to the young people of America, because they're the ones that are going to spend most of their life in the 21st Century. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
They're the ones who have the challenges and they are people out there making predictions that it's not going to be the same. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
You're not going to have the opportunities; there are going to be more deficits, more drugs, more crime, and less confidence in the American people. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And that's what you're faced with, the parents are faced with, and the grand parents are faced with. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
It's important, it's their future. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I would say to those I know there are more young people experimenting with drugs today than ever before; drug use has gone up. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
And if you care about the future of America, if you care about your future, just don't do it. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
And I know that I'm someone older than you. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
But I've had my anxious moments in my life. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I've learned to feed myself and to walk and to dress. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
I'm standing here as proof that in America the possibilities are unlimited. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I know who I am, and I know where I'm from, and I know where I want to take America. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
We are the greatest country on the face of the earth. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
We do more good things for more people in our communities, our neighborhoods, than anywhere that I know of. Robert J. Dole Premise 1996 06 Oct 1996
This is important business. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
This election is important. Robert J. Dole Claim 1996 06 Oct 1996
I ask for your support, I ask for your help. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
And if you really want to get involved, just tap into my home page, www.DoleKemp96.org. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
Thank you. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996
God bless America. Robert J. Dole O 1996 06 Oct 1996