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Speech	Name	Component	Year	Date
:<strong>October 11, 2000</strong> <strong>The Second Gore-Bush Presidential Debate</strong>	NaN	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Good evening, from Wake Chapel at Wake Forest University at Winston-Salem, North Carolina.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm Jim Lehrer of the News Hour on PBS.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Welcome to this second election 2000 debate between the Republican candidate for president, Gov.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
George W. Bush of Texas, and the Democratic candidate, Vice President Al Gore.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
These debates are sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The format and the rules are those negotiated by representatives of the two campaigns.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Only the subjects tonight and the questions are mine.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The format tonight is that of a conversation.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The only prevailing rule is that no single response can ever, ever exceed two minutes.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The prevailing rule for the audience here in the hall is as always, absolute quiet, please.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Good evening, Governor Bush, Vice President Gore.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The end of our 90 minutes last week in Boston, the total time each of you took was virtually the same.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Let's see if we can do the same tonight, or come close.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Governor Bush, the first question goes to you.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
One of you is about to be elected the leader of the single-most powerful nation in the world, economically, financially, militarily, diplomatically, you name it.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Have you formed any guiding principles for exercising this enormous power?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I have, I have.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
First question is what's in the best interests of the United States?	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
What's in the best interests of our people?	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
When it comes to foreign policy that will be my guiding question.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Is it in our nation's interests?	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Peace in the Middle East is in our nation's interests.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Having a hemisphere that is free for trade and peaceful is in our nation's interests.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Strong relations in Europe is in our nation's interest.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I've thought a lot about what it means to be the president.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I also understand that an administration is not one person, but an administration is dedicated citizens who are called by the president to serve the country, to serve a cause greater than self, and so I've thought about an administration of people who represent all America, but people who understand my compassionate and conservative philosophy.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I haven't started naming names except for one person, and that's Mr. Richard Cheney who I thought did a great job the other night.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
He's a vice presidential nominee who represents -- I think people got to see why I picked him.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
He's man of solid judgment and he's going to be a person to stand by my side.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
One of the things I've done in Texas is I've been able to put together a good team of people.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I've been able to set clear goals.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
The goals ought to be an education system that leaves no child behind, Medicare for our seniors, a Social Security system that's safe and secure, foreign policy that's in our nation's interest, and a strong military, and then bring people together to achieve those goals.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's what a Chief Executive Officer does.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
So I've thought long and hard about the honor of being the President of the United States.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yes, Jim.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I've thought a lot about that particular question, and I see our greatest national strength coming from what we stand for in the world.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I see it as a question of values.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It is a great tribute to our founders that 224 years later this nation is now looked to by the peoples on every other continent and the peoples from every part of this earth as a kind of model for what their future could be.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I don't think that's just the kind of exaggeration that we take pride in as Americans.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's really true, even the ones that sometimes shake their fists at us.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
As soon as they have a change that allows the people to speak freely, they're wanting to develop some kind of blueprint that will help them be like us more, freedom, free markets, political freedom.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
So I think first and foremost our power ought to be wielded to in ways that form a more perfect union.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
The power of example is America's greatest power in the world.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And that means, for example, standing up for human rights.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It means addressing the problems of injustice and inequity, along the lines of race and ethnicity here at home, because in all these other places around the world where they're having these terrible problems, when they feel hope, it is often because they see in us a reflection of their potential.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
So we've got to enforce our civil rights laws.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We've got to deal with things like racial profiling.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And we have to keep our military strong.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We have the strongest military, and I'll do whatever is necessary, if I'm president, to make sure that it stays that way.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But our real power comes, I think, from our values.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Should the people of the world look at the United States, Governor, and say, should they fear us, should they welcome our involvement, should they see us as a friend, everybody in the world?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
How would you project us around the world, as president?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, I think they ought to look at us as a country that understands freedom where it doesn't matter who you are or how you're raised or where you're from, that you can succeed.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I don't think they'll look at us with envy.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It really depends upon how our nation conducts itself in foreign policy.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
If we're an arrogant nation, they'll resent us.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
If we're a humble nation, but strong, they'll welcome us.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And it's -- our nation stands alone right now in the world in terms of power, and that's why we have to be humble.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And yet project strength in a way that promotes freedom.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
So I don't think they ought to look at us in any way other than what we are.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We're a freedom-loving nation and if we're an arrogant nation they'll view us that way, but if we're a humble nation they'll respect us.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
A humble nation.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I agree with that.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I agree with that.	Albert A. Gore	NaN	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think that one of the problems that we have faced in the world is that we are so much more powerful than any single nation has been in relationship to the rest of the world than at any time in history, that I know about, anyway.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
That there is some resentment of U.S. power.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
So I think that the idea of humility is an important one.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I think that we also have to have a sense of mission in the world.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We have to protect our capacity to push forward what America's all about.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
That means not only military strength and our values, it also means keeping our economy strong.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
You know, in the last, or two decades ago, it was routine for leaders of foreign countries to come over here and say you guys have got to do something about these horrendous deficits because it's causing tremendous problems for the rest of the world, and we were lectured to all the time.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
The fact that we have the strongest economy in history today is not good enough.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We need to do more.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But the fact that it is so strong enables us to project the power for good that America can represent.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Does that give us -- does our wealth, our good economy, our power, bring with it special obligations to the rest of the world?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yes, it does.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Take, for example, Third World debt.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think we ought to be forgiving Third World debt under certain conditions.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think, for example, if we're convinced that a Third World country that's got a lot of debt would reform itself, that the money wouldn't go into the hands of a few but would go to help people, I think it makes sense for us to use our wealth in that way, or to trade debt for valuable rain forest lands, makes that much sense, yes.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We do have an obligation, but we can't be all things to all people.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We can help build coalitions but we can't put our troops all around the world.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We can lend money but we have to do it wisely.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We shouldn't be lending money to corrupt officials.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
So we got to be guarded in our generosity.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Let's go through some of the specifics now.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
New question.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore, the governor mentioned the Middle East.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Here we're talking at this stage in the game about diplomatic power that we have.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
What do you think the United States should do right now to resolve that conflict over there?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The first priority has to be on ending the violence, dampening down the tensions that have arisen there.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We need to call upon Syria to release the three Israeli soldiers who have been captured.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We need to insist that Arafat send out instructions to halt some of the provocative acts of violence that have been going on.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think that we also have to keep a weather eye toward Saddam Hussein because he is taking advantage of this situation to once again make threats, and he needs to understand that he's not only dealing with Israel, he is dealing -- he's dealing with us if he is making the kind of threats that he's talking about there.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
The use of diplomacy in this situation has already, well, it goes hour-by-hour and day-by-day now.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's a very tense situation there.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But in the last 24 hours there has been some subsiding of the violence there.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's too much to hope that this is going to continue, but I do hope that it will continue.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Our country has been very active with regular conversations with the leaders there.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And we just have to take it day-to-day right now.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But one thing I would say where diplomacy is concerned, Israel should feel absolutely secure about one thing.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Our bonds with Israel are larger than agreements or disagreements on some details of diplomatic initiatives.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
They are historic, they are strong, and they are enduring.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And our ability to serve as an honest broker is something that we need to shepherd.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Governor?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, I think during the campaign, particularly now during this difficult period, we ought to be speaking with one voice, and I appreciate the way the administration has worked hard to calm the tensions.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Like the vice president, I call on Chairman Arafat to have his people pull back to make the peace.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think credibility is going to be very important in the future in the Middle East.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I want everybody to know should I be the president Israel's going to be our friend.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm going to stand by Israel.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Secondly, that I think it's important to reach out to moderate Arab nations, like Jordan and Egypt, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's important to be friends with people when you don't need each other so that when you do there's a strong bond of friendship.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And that's going to be particularly important in dealing not only with situations such as now occurring in Israel, but with Saddam Hussein.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
The coalition against Saddam has fallen apart or it's unraveling, let's put it that way.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
The sanctions are being violated.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We don't know whether he's developing weapons of mass destruction.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
He better not be or there's going to be a consequence should I be the president.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But it's important to have credibility and credibility is formed by being strong with your friends and resolute in your determination.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
One of the reasons why I think it's important for this nation to develop an anti-ballistic missile system that we can share with our allies in the Middle East if need be to keep the peace to be able to say to the Saddam Husseinâ€™s of the world or the Iranians, don't dare threaten our friends.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's also important to keep strong ties in the Middle East, credible ties, because of the energy crisis we're now in.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
After all, a lot of the energy is produced from the Middle East, and so I appreciate what the administration is doing.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I hope to get a sense of should I be fortunate to be the president how my administration will react to the Middle East.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
So you don't believe, Vice President Gore, that we should take sides and resolve this right now?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
A lot of people pushing hey, the United States should declare itself and not be so neutral in this particular situation.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, we stand with Israel, but we have maintained the ability to serve as an honest broker.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And one of the reasons that's important is that Israel cannot have direct dialogue with some of the people on the other side of conflicts, especially during times of tension, unless that dialogue comes through us.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And if we throw away that ability to serve as an honest broker, then we have thrown -- we will have thrown away a strategic asset that's important not only to us but also to Israel.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
You agree with that, Governor?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I do.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I do think this, though.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
When it comes to timetables it can't be the United States timetable as to how discussions take place.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's got to be a timetable that all parties can agree to, like the Palestinians and Israelis.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Secondly, any lasting peace is going to have to be a peace that's good for both sides.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And therefore, the term honest broker makes sense.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
This current administration's worked hard to keep the parties at the table.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I will try to do the same thing.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But it won't be on my timetable, it will be on the timetable that people are comfortable with in the Middle East.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
People watching here tonight are very interested in Middle East policy, and they are so interested they want to base their vote on differences between the two of you as president how you would handle Middle East policy.	MODERATOR	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Is there any difference?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I haven't heard a big difference in the last few exchanges.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's hard to tell.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think that, you know, I would hope to be able to convince people I could handle the Iraqi situation better.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Saddam Hussein, you mean, get him out of there?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I would like to, of course, and I presume this administration would as well.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
We don't know -- there are no inspectors now in Iraq, the coalition that was in place isn't as strong as it used to be.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
He is a danger.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We don't want him fishing in troubled waters in the Middle East.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And it's going to be hard, it's going to be important to rebuild that coalition to keep the pressure on him.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
You feel that is a failure of the Clinton administration?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I do.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, when I got to be a part of the current administration, it was right after -- I was one of the few members of my political party to support former President Bush in the Persian Gulf War resolution, and at the end of that war, for whatever reason, it was not finished in a way that removed Saddam Hussein from power.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I know there are all kinds of circumstances and explanations.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But the fact is that that's the situation that was left when I got there.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And we have maintained the sanctions.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now I want to go further.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I want to give robust support to the groups that are trying to overthrow Saddam Hussein, and I know there are allegations that they're too weak to do it, but that's what they said about the forces that were opposing Milosevic in Serbia, and you know, the policy of enforcing sanctions against Serbia has just resulted in a spectacular victory for democracy just in the past week, and it seems to me that having taken so long to see the sanctions work there, building upon the policy of containment that was successful over a much longer period of time against the former Soviet Union in the communist block, seems a little early to declare that we should give up on the sanctions.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I know the governor's not necessarily saying that but, you know, all of these flights that have come in, all of them have been in accordance with the sanctions regime, I'm told, except for three where they notified, and they're trying to break out of the box, there's no question about it.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I don't think they should be allowed to.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Did he state your position correctly, you're not calling for eliminating the sanctions, are you?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
No, of course not, absolutely not, I want them to be tougher.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Let's go on to Milosevic and Yugoslavia, and it falls under the area of our military power.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Governor, new question.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Should the fall of Milosevic be seen as a triumph for U.S. military intervention?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think it's a triumph.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I thought the president made the right decision in joining NATO and bombing Serbia.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I supported them when they did so.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I called upon the Congress not to hamstring the administration, and in terms of forcing troop withdrawals on a timetable that wasn't necessarily in our best interest or fit our nation's strategy, and so I think it's good public policy, I think it worked, and I'm pleased I took -- made the decision I made.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm pleased the president made the decision he made.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Because freedom took hold in that part of the world, but there's a lot of work left to be done, however.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But you think it would not have happened -- do you think that Milosevic would not have fallen if the United States and NATO had not intervened militarily?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Is this a legitimate use of our military power?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yes, I think it is.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Absolutely.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I don't think he would have fallen had we not used the force.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I know there are some in our party that disagree with that sentiment.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I supported the president.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I thought he made the right decision to do so.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I didn't think he necessarily made the right decision to take land troops off the table right before we committed ourselves offensively, but nevertheless, it worked.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
The administration deserves credit for having made it work.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It is important for NATO to have it work.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's important for NATO to be strong and confident and to help keep the peace in Europe.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And one of the reasons I felt so strongly that the United States needed to participate was because of our relations with NATO, and NATO is going to be an important part of keeping the peace in the future.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now, there's more work to do.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Remains to be seen, however, whether or not there's going to be a political settlement in Kosovo, and I certainly hope there is one.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Iâ€™m on record as saying at some point in time I hope our European friends become the peacekeepers in Bosnia and in the Balkans.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I hope that they put the troops on the ground so that we can withdraw our troops and focus our military on fighting and winning war.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, I've been kind of a hard-liner on this issue for more than eight years.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
When I was in the senate before I became vice president I was pushing for stronger action against Milosevic.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
He caused the death of so many people.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
He was the last communist party boss there and then he became a dictator that by some other label he was still essentially a communist dictator.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And unfortunately now he is trying to reassert himself in Serbian politics.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Already just today the members of his political party said that they were going to ignore the orders of the new president of Serbia, and that they question his legitimacy, and he's still going to try to be actively involved.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
He is an indicted war criminal.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
He should be held accountable.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now, I did want to pick up on one of the statements earlier, and maybe I have heard, maybe I have heard the previous statements wrong, Governor.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
In some of the discussions we've had about when it's appropriate for the U.S. to use force around the world, at times the standards that you've laid down have given me the impression that if it's something like a genocide taking place or what they called ethnic cleansing in Bosnia, that that alone would not be, that that wouldn't be the kind of situation that would cause you to think that the U.S. ought to get involved with troops.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now, have to be other factors involved for me to want to be involved.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But by itself, that to me can bring into play a fundamental American strategic interest because I think it's based on our values.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now, have I got that wrong?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Trying to figure out who the questioner was.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
If I think it's in our nation's strategic interest I'll commit troops.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I thought it was in our strategic interests to keep Milosevic in check because of our relations in NATO, and that's why I took the position I took.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think it's important for NATO to be strong and confident.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I felt like unchecked Milosevic would harm NATO, and so it depends on the situation, Mr. Vice President.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, let's stay on the subject for a moment.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
New question related to this.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
in the last 20 years there have been eight major actions that involved the introduction of U.S. ground, air or naval forces.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Let me name them.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Lebanon, Grenada, Panama, the Persian Gulf, Somalia, Bosnia, Haiti, Kosovo.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
If you had been president for any of those interventions, would any of those interventions not have happened?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Can you run through the list again?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Sure.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Lebanon.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I thought that was a mistake.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Grenada.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I supported that.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Panama.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I supported that.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Persian Gulf.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yes, I voted for it, supported it.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Somalia.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Of course, and that again -- no, I think that that was ill-considered.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I did support it at the time.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It was in the previous administration, in the Bush-Quayle administration, and I think in retrospect the lessons there are ones that we should take very, very seriously.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Bosnia.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Oh, yes.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Haiti.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yes.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And then Kosovo.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yes.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
We talked about that.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Want me to do it with you?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Lebanon.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Make a couple comments.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Sure, absolutely, sure.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Somalia.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Started off as a humanitarian mission and it changed into a nation-building mission, and that's where the mission went wrong.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
The mission was changed.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And as a result, our nation paid a price.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And so I don't think our troops ought to be used for what's called nation-building.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think our troops ought to be used to fight and win war.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think our troops ought to be used to help overthrow the dictator when it's in our best interests.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But in this case it was a nation-building exercise, and same with Haiti.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I wouldn't have supported either.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
What about Lebanon?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yes.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Grenada.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yes.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Panama?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yes.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Some of them I've got a conflict of interest on, if you know what I mean.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I do, I do.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The Persian Gulf, obviously.	MODERATOR	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And Bosnia.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And you have already talked about Kosovo.	MODERATOR	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But the reverse side of the question, Governor, that Vice President Gore mentioned, 600,000 people died in Rwanda in 1994.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
There was no U.S. intervention, no intervention from the outside world.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Was that a mistake not to intervene?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think the administration did the right thing in that case.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I do.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It was a horrible situation, no one liked to see it on our TV screens, but it's a case where we need to make sure we have an early warning system in place in places where there could be ethnic cleansing and genocide the way we saw it there in Rwanda.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And that's a case where we need to use our influence to have countries in Africa come together and help deal with the situation.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
The administration, seems like we're having a great love fest tonight, but the administration made the right decision on training Nigerian troops for situations just such as this in Rwanda, and so I thought they made the right decision not to send U.S. troops into Rwanda.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Do you have any second thoughts on that, based on what you said a moment ago about genocide?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'd like to come back to the question of nation building, but let me address the question directly, first.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Fine.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
We did, actually, send troops into Rwanda to help with the humanitarian relief measures.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
My wife Tipper, who is here, actually went on a military plane with General Sholicatchvieli on one of those flights.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I think in retrospect we were too late getting in there.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We could have saved more lives if we had acted earlier.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I do not think that it was an example of a conflict where we should have put our troops in to try to separate the parties for this reason, Jim.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
One of the criteria that I think is important in deciding when and if we should ever get involved around the world is whether or not our national security interest is involved, if we can really make the difference with military forces.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
If we tried everything else, if we have allies.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
In the Balkans we have allies, NATO, ready, willing and able to go and carry a big part of the burden.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
In Africa we did not.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now, we have tried -- our country has tried to create an Africa crisis response team there, and we've met some resistance.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We have had some luck with Nigeria, but in Sierra Leon, and now that Nigeria has become a democracy, and we hope it stays that way, then maybe we can build on that.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But because we had no allies and because it was very unclear that we could actually accomplish what we would want to accomplish about putting military forces there, I think it was the right thing not to jump in, as heartbreaking as it was, but I think we should have come in much quicker with the humanitarian mission.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
So what would you say, Governor, that somebody would say hey wait a minute, why not Africa, I mean why the Middle East, why the Balkans, but not Africa, when 600,000 people's lives are at risk?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, I understand, and Africa is important.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And we've got to do a lot of work in Africa to promote democracy and trade, and there are some -- Vice President mentioned Nigeria is a fledgling democracy.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We have to work with Nigeria.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Itâ€™s an important continent.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But there's got to be priorities, and Middle East is a priority for a lot of reasons, as is Europe and the Far East, our own hemisphere.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And those are my four top priorities should I be the president, not to say we won't be engaged nor work hard to get other nations to come together to prevent atrocity.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I thought the best example of a way to handle the situation was East Timor when we provided logistical support to the Australians, support that only we can provide.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I thought that was a good model.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But we can't be all things to all people in the world, Jim.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I think that's where maybe the vice president and I begin to have some differences.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm worried about overcommitting our military around the world.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I want to be judicious in its use.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
You mentioned Haiti.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I wouldn't have sent troops to Haiti.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I didn't think it was a mission worthwhile.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It was a nation building mission, and it was not very successful.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It cost us billions, a couple billions of dollars, and I'm not so sure democracy is any better off in Haiti than it was before.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore, do you agree with the governor's views on nation building, the use of military, our military, for nation building as he described and defined it?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I don't think we agree on that.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I would certainly also be judicious in evaluating any potential use of American troops overseas.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think we have to be very reticent about that.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But look, Jim, the world is changing so rapidly.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The way I see it, the world is getting much closer together.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Like it or not, we are now -- the United States is now the natural leader of the world.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
All these other countries are looking to us.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now, just because we cannot be involved everywhere, and shouldn't be, doesn't mean that we should shy away from going in anywhere.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now, both of us are kind of, I guess, stating the other's position in a maximalist extreme way, but I think there is a difference here.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
This idea of nation building is kind of a pejorative phrase, but think about the great conflict of the past century, World War II.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
During the years between World War I and World War II, a great lesson was learned by our military leaders and the people of the United States.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
The lesson was that in the aftermath of World War I, we kind of turned our backs and left them to their own devices and they brewed up a lot of trouble that quickly became World War II.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And acting upon that lesson in the aftermath of our great victory in World War II, we laid down the Marshall Plan, President Truman did.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We got intimately involved in building NATO and other structures there.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We still have lots of troops in Europe.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And what did we do in the late '40's and '50's and '60's?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
We were nation building.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And it was economic.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But it was also military.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And the confidence that those countries recovering from the wounds of war had by having troops there.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We had civil administrators come in to set up their ways of building their towns back.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
You said in the Boston debate, Governor, on this issue of nation building, that the United States military is overextended now.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Where is it overextended?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Where are there U.S. military that you would bring home if you become president?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
First let me just say one comment about what the vice president said.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think one of the lessons in between World War I and World War II is we let our military atrophy.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And we can't do that.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We've got to rebuild our military.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But one of the problems we have in the military is we're in a lot of places around the world.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I mentioned one, and that's the Balkans.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I would very much like to get our troops out of there.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I recognize we can't do it now, nor do I advocate an immediate withdrawal.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
That would be an abrogation of our agreement with NATO.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
No one is suggesting that.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I think it ought to be one of our priorities to work with our European friends to convince them to put troops on the ground.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And there is an example.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Haiti is another example.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now there are some places where I think -- you know, I've supported the administration in Columbia.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think it's important for us to be training Columbians in that part of the world.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
The hemisphere is in our interest to have a peaceful Columbia.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But --	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The use of the military, there -- some people are now suggesting that if you don't want to use the military to maintain the peace, to do the civil thing, is it time to consider a civil force of some kind that comes in after the military that builds nations or all of that?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Is that on your radar screen?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I don't think so.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think what we need to do is convince people who live in the lands they live in to build the nations.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Maybe I'm missing something here.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I mean, we're going to have kind of a nation building core from America?	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Absolutely not.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Our military is meant to fight and win war.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's what it's meant to do.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And when it gets overextended, morale drops.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I strongly believe we need to have a military presence in the Korean peninsula, not only to keep the peace in the peninsula, but to keep regional stability.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I strongly believe we need to keep a presence in NATO, but I'm going to be judicious as to how to use the military.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It needs to be in our vital interest, the mission needs to be clear, and the extra strategy obvious.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I don't disagree with that.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I certainly don't disagree that we ought to get our troops home from places like the Balkans as soon as we can, as soon as the mission is complete.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's what we did in Haiti.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
There are no more than a handful of American military personnel in Haiti now.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And Haitians have their problems, but we gave them a chance to restore democracy.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's really about all we can do.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But if you have a situation like that right in our backyard with chaos about to break out and flotillas forming to come across the water, and all kinds of violence there, right in one of our neighboring countries there, then I think that we did the right thing there.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And as for this idea of nation building, the phrase sounds grandiose.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And, you know, we can't be -- we can't allow ourselves to get overextended.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I certainly agree with that.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And that's why I've supported building up our capacity.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I've devoted in the budget I've proposed, as I said last week, more than twice as much as the governor has proposed.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think that it's in better shape now than he generally does.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We've had some disagreements about that.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
He said that two divisions would have to report not ready for duty, and that's not what the joint chiefs say.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But there's no doubt that we have to continue building up readiness and military strength.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And we have to also be very cautious in the way we use our military.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
In the non-military area of influencing events around the world, the financial and economic area, the World Bank President Wolfensohn said recently, Governor, that U.S. contributions to overseas development assistance is lower now almost than it has ever been.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Is that a problem for you?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Do you think -- what is your -- what is your idea about what the United States' obligations are?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm talking about financial assistance and that sort of thing to other countries, the poor countries.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, I mentioned Third World debt.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Sure.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's a place where we can use our generosity to influence in a positive way, influence nations.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I believe we ought to have foreign aid, but I don't think we ought to just have foreign aid for the sake of foreign aid.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think foreign aid needs to be used to encourage markets and reform.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think a lot of times we just spend aid and say we feel better about it and it ends up being spent the wrong way, and there's some pretty egregious examples recently.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
One being Russia, where we had IMF loans that ended up in the pockets of a lot of powerful people and didn't help the nation.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think the IMF has got a role in the world, but I don't want to see the IMF out there as a way to say to world bankers, if you make a bad loan, we'll bail you out.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It needs to be available for emergency situations.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I thought the President did the right thing with Mexico and was very strongly supportive of the administration in Mexico.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I don't think the IMF ought to be a stop loss for people who ought to be able to evaluate risks themselves.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
So I'll look at every place where we're investing money.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I just want to make sure the return is good.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Do you think we're meeting our obligations properly?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
No, I would make some changes.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think there need to be reforms in the IMF.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I've generally supported it, but I've seen them make some calls that I thought were highly questionable.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I think that there's a general agreement in many parts of the world now that there ought to be changes in the IMF.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
The World Bank I think is generally doing a better job, but I think one of the big issues here that doesn't get nearly enough attention is the issue of corruption.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
The governor mentioned it earlier.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I've worked on this issue.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's an enormous problem and corruption in official agencies, like militaries and police departments around the world, customs officials, that's one of the worst forms of it.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And we have got to again lead by example and help these other countries that are trying to straighten out their situations find the tools in order to do it.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I just think, Jim, that this is an absolutely unique period in world history.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
The worldâ€™s coming together, as I said, they're looking to us.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And we have a fundamental choice to make.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Are we going to step up to the plate as a nation the way we did after World War II, the way that generation of heroes said okay, the United States is going to be the leader.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And the world benefitted tremendously from the courage that they showed in those post-war years.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think that in the aftermath of the Cold War, it's time for us to do something very similar, to step up to the plate, to provide the leadership on the environment, leadership to make sure the world economy keeps moving in the right direction.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Again, that means not running big deficits here and not squandering our surplus.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It means having intelligent decisions that keep our prosperity going and shepherds that economic strength so that we can provide that leadership role.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Let me comment on that.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm not so sure the role of the United States is to go around the world and say this is the way it's got to be.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We can help.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And maybe it's just our difference in government, the way we view government.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I want to empower the people.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I want to help people help themselves, not have government tell people what to do.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I just don't think it's the role of the United States to walk into a country and say, â€œwe do it this way, so should you.â€ I think we can help.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I know we've got to encourage democracy in the marketplaces.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But take Russia, for example.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We went into Russia, we said here is some IMF money, and it ended up in Viktor Chemomyrdin's pocket, and others, and yet we played like there was reform.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
The only people that are going to reform Russia are Russia.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
They're going to have to make the decision themselves.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Mr. Putin is going to have to make the decision as to whether or not he wants to adhere to rule of law and normal accounting practices so that if countries and/or entities invest capital, there's a reasonable rate of return, a way to get the money out of the economy.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But Russia has to make the decision.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We can work with them on security matters, for example, but it's their call to make.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
So I'm not exactly sure where the vice president is coming from, but I think one way for us to end up being viewed as the ugly American is for us to go around the world saying, â€œwe do it this way, so should you.â€ Now, we trust freedom.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We know freedom is a powerful, powerful, powerful force, much bigger than the United States of America, as we saw recently in the Balkans.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But maybe I misunderstand where you're coming from, Mr. Vice President, but I think the United States must be humble and must be proud and confident of our values, but humble in how we treat nations that are figuring out how to chart their own course.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Lets move on.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
No, let's move on.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Far be it from me to suggest otherwise.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
(LAUGHTER)	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
First, a couple of follow-ups from the vice presidential debate last week.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore, would you support or sign, as president, a federal law banning racial profiling by police and other authorities at all levels of government?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yes, I would.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
The only thing an executive order can accomplish is to ban it in federal law enforcement agencies, but I would also support a law in the Congress that would have the effect of doing the same thing.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I just -- I think that racial profiling is a serious problem.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I remember when the stories first came out about the stops in New Jersey by the highway patrol there.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I know it's been going on a long time.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
In some ways this is just a new label for something that has been going on for years.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I have to confess that it was the first time that I really focused on it in a new way.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I was surprised at the extent of it.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I think we've now got so many examples around the country that we really have to find ways to end this.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Imagine what it -- what it is like for someone to be singled out unfairly, unjustly, and feel the unfair force of law simply because of race or ethnicity.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now, that runs counter to what the United States of America is all about at our core.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And it's not an easy problem to solve.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But if I am entrusted with the presidency, it will be the first Civil Rights Act of the 21st century.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yeah, I can't imagine what it would be like to be singled out because of race and stopped and harassed.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's just flat wrong, and that's not what America is all about.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And so we ought to do everything we can to end racial profiling.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
One of my concerns, though, is I don't want to federalize the local police forces.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I want to -- obviously in the egregious cases we need to enforce civil rights law, but we need to make sure that internal affairs divisions at the local level do their job and be given a chance to do their job.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I believe in local control of governments, and obviously if they don't there needs to be a consequence at the federal level.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But it's very important that we not overstep our bounds and I think most people -- most police officers are good, dedicated, honorable citizens who are doing their job, putting their lives at risk who aren't bigoted or aren't prejudiced.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I don't think they ought to be held guilty.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I do think we need to find out where racial profiling occurs and do something about it and say to the local folks, get it done.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And if you can't, there will be a federal consequence.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And that could be a federal law?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yeah.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And you would agree?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I would agree.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I also agree that most police officers, of course, are doing a good job and hate this practice also.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I talked to an African-American police officer in Springfield, Massachusetts not long ago who raised this question and said that in his opinion one of the biggest solutions is in the training.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And not only the training in police procedures, but human relations.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I think that racial profiling is part of a larger issue of how we deal with race in America.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And as for singling people out because of race, you know, James Byrd was singled out because of his race in Texas.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And other Americans have been singled out because of their race or ethnicity.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And that's why I think we can embody our values by passing a hate crimes law.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think these crimes are different.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think they're different because they're based on prejudice and hatred, which gives rise to crimes that have not just a single victim, but they're intended to stigmatize and dehumanize a whole group of people.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
You have a different view of that.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
No, I don't, really.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
On hate crimes laws?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
No.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
We've got one in Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And guess what?	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The three men who murdered James Byrd, guess what's going to happen to them?	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
They're going to be put to death.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
A jury found them guilty.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's going to be hard to punish them any worse after they get put to death.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And it's the right cause.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's the right decision.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Secondly, there is other forms of racial profiling that goes on in America.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Arab-Americans are racially profiled in what is called secret evidence.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
People are stopped, and we have to do something about that.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
My friend, Senator Spencer Abraham of Michigan, is pushing a law to make sure that Arab-Americans are treated with respect.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
So racial profiling isn't just an issue at local police forces.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's an issue throughout our society.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And as we become a diverse society, we're going to have to deal with it more and more.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I believe, though -- I believe, as sure as I'm sitting here, that most Americans really care.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
They're tolerant people.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
They're good, tolerant people.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's the very few that create most of the crises, and we just have to find them and deal with them.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
What -- if you become president, Governor, are there other areas, racial problem areas, that you would deal with as president involving discrimination?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Like you said, Arab-Americans, but also Hispanics, Asians, as well as Blacks in this country.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Let me tell you where the biggest discrimination comes.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
In public education when we just move children through the schools.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
My friend, Phyllis Hunter, is here.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
She had one of the greatest lines of all lines.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
She said, reading is the new civil right.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
She's right.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And to make sure our society is as hopeful as it possibly can be, every single child in America must be educated.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I mean every child.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It starts with making sure every child learns to read.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
K-2 diagnostic testing so we know whether or not there's a deficiency.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Curriculum that works and phonics needs to be an integral part of our reading curriculum.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Intensive reading laboratories, teacher retraining.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I mean, there needs to be a wholesale effort against racial profiling, which is illiterate children.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We can do better in our public schools.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We can close an achievement gap, and it starts with making sure we have strong accountability, Jim.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
One of the cornerstones of reform, and good reform, is to measure.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Because when you measure you can ask the question, do they know?	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Is anybody being profiled?	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Is anybody being discriminated against?	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It becomes a tool, a corrective tool.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I believe the federal government must say that if you receive any money, any money from the federal government for disadvantaged children, for example, you must show us whether or not the children are learning.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And if they are, fine.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And if they're not, there has to be a consequence.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And so to make sure we end up getting rid of basic structural prejudice is education.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
There is nothing more prejudiced than not educating a child.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore, what would be on your racial discrimination elimination list as president?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, I think we need tough enforcement of the civil rights laws.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think we still need affirmative action.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I would pass a hate crimes law, as I said, and I guess I had misunderstood the governor's previous position.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The Byrd family may have a misunderstanding of it in Texas also.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I would like to shift, if I could, to the big issue of education.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Hold on one second.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
What is the misunderstanding?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Let's clear this up.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, I had thought that there was a controversy at the end of the legislative session where the hate crimes law in Texas was -- failed, and that the Byrd family, among others, asked you to support it, Governor, and it died in committee for lack of support.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Am I wrong about that?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, you don't realize we have a hate crimes statute?	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
We do.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm talking about the one that was proposed to deal --	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
No -- well, what the Vice President must not understand is we've got a hate crimes bill in Texas.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And secondly, the people that murdered Mr. Byrd got the ultimate punishment.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The death penalty.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
They were prosecuted under the murder laws, were they not, in Texas?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
In this case when you murder somebody it's hate, Jim.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The crime is hate.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And they got the ultimate punishment.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm not exactly sure how you enhance the penalty any more than the death penalty.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
We happen to have a statute on the books that's a hate crimes statute in Texas.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
May I respond?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Sure.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I don't want to jump in.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I may have been misled by all the news reports about this matter, because the law that was proposed in Texas that had the support of the Byrd family and a whole lot of people in Texas did, in fact, die in committee.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
There may be some other statute that was already on the books, but certainly the advocates of the hate crimes law felt that a tough new law was needed.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And it's important, Jim, not only -- not just because of Texas, but because this mirrors the national controversy.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
There is pending now in the Congress a national hate crimes law because of James Byrd, because of Matthew Shepard, who was crucified on a split rail fence by bigots, and because of others.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And that law has died in committee also because of the same kind of opposition.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And you would support that bill.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Absolutely.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Would you support a national hate crimes law?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I would support the Orrin Hatch version of it, not the Senator Kennedy version.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But let me say to you, Mr. Vice President, we're happy with our laws on our books.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
That bill did -- there was another bill that did die in committee.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I want to repeat, if you have a state that fully supports the law like we do in Texas, we're going to go after all crime.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And we're going to make sure people get punished for the crime.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And in this case we can't enhance the penalty any more than putting those three thugs to death.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And that's what's gonna happen in the State of Texas.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
New subject, new question.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Another vice presidential debate follow-up.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Governor, both Senator Lieberman and Secretary Cheney said they were sympathetically rethinking their views on same sex relationships.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
What's your position on that?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm not for gay marriage.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think marriage is a sacred institution between a man and a woman.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I appreciated the way the administration signed the Defense of Marriage Act.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I presume the Vice President supported it when the President signed that bill and supports it now.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I think marriage is a sacred institution.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm going to be respectful for people who may disagree with me.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I've had a record of doing so in the State of Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I've been a person that had been called a uniter, not a divider, because I accept other people's points of view.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I feel strongly that marriage should be between a man and a woman.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I agree with that, and I did support that law.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I think that we should find a way to allow some kind of civic unions, and I basically agree with Dick Cheney and Joe Lieberman.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I think the three of us have one view and the Governor has another view.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Is that right?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm not sure what kind of view he's describing to me.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I can just tell you, I'm a person who respects other people.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I respect their -- I respect -- on the one hand he says he agrees with me and then he says he doesn't.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm not sure where he's coming from.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I will be a tolerant person.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I've been a tolerant person all my life.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I just happen to believe strongly that marriage is between a man and a woman.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Do you believe in general terms that gays and lesbians should have the same rights as other Americans?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yes.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I don't think they ought to have special rights, but I think they ought to have the same rights.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, there's a law pending called the Employment Non-Discrimination Act.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I strongly support it.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
What it says is that gays and lesbians can't be fired from their job because they're gay or lesbian.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And it would be a federal law preventing that.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now, I wonder if the -- it's been blocked by the opponents in the majority in the Congress.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I wonder if the Governor would lend his support to that law.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Governor?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The question --	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, but it's a logical response.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, I have no idea.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I mean, he can throw out all kinds -- I don't know the particulars of this law.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I will tell you I'm the kind of person, I don't hire or fire somebody based upon their sexual orientation.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
As a matter of fact, I would like to take the issue a little further.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I don't really think it's any of my -- you know, any of my concerns what -- how you conduct your sex life.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I think that's a private matter.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I think that's the way it ought to be.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I'm going to be respectful for people, I'll tolerate people, and I support equal rights but not special rights for people.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Special rights, how does that affect gays and lesbians?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, it would be if they're given special protective status.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
That doesn't mean we shouldn't fully enforce laws and fully protect people and fully honor people, which I will do as the President of the United States.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
New subject, new question, Vice President Gore.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
How do you see the connection between controlling gun sales in this country and the incidence of death by accidental or intentional use of guns?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Jim, I hope that we can come back to the subject of education because the governor made an extensive statement on it and I have a very different view than the one he expressed.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But that having been said, I believe that -- well, first of all, let me say that the governor and I agree on some things where this subject is concerned.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I will not do anything to affect the rights of hunters or sportsmen.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think that homeowners have to be respected and their right to have a gun if they wish to.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
The problem I see is that there are too many guns getting into the hands of children, and criminals, and people who, for whatever reason, some kind of history of stalking or domestic abuse really should not be able to get guns.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think these assault weapons are a problem.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
So I favor closing the gun show loophole.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
In fact, I cast the tie-breaking vote to close it, but then the majority in the House of Representatives went the other way.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's still pending.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
If we could get agreement on that, maybe they could pass that in the final days of this Congress.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think we ought to restore the three-day waiting period under the Brady Law.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think we should toughen the enforcement of gun laws so that the ones that are already on the books can be enforced much more effectively.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Some of the restrictions that have been placed by the Congress in the last couple of years.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think -- in the last few years I think have been unfortunate.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think that we ought to make all schools gun free.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Have a gun-free zone around every school in this country.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think that measures like these are important.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Child safety trigger locks on a mandatory basis, and others.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Governor?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, it starts with enforcing law.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
When you say loud and clear to somebody if you're going to carry a gun illegally, we're going to arrest you.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
If you're going to sell a gun illegally, you need to be arrested.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
If you commit a crime with a gun, there needs to be absolute certainty in the law.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And that means that the local law enforcement officials need help at the federal level.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Programs like Project Exile where the federal government intensifies arresting people who illegally use guns.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And we haven't done a very good job of that at the federal level recently.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I'm going to make it a priority.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Secondly, I don't think we ought to be selling guns to people who shouldn't have them.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's why I support instant background checks at gun shows.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
One of the reasons we have an instant background check is so that we instantly know whether or not somebody should have a gun or not.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
In Texas I tried to do something innovative.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
There's a lot of talk about trigger locks being on guns sold in the future.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I support that.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I said if you want a trigger lock to make your gun safe, come and get one for free.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
So we're distributing in our State of Texas for free.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think we ought to raise the age at which a juvenile can carry a handgun from 18 to 21.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I disagree with the vice president on this issue.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
He is for registration of guns.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think the only people that are going to show up to register or get a license -- I guess licensing like a driver's license for a gun, the only people that are going to show up are law-abiding citizens.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
The criminal is not going to show up and say hey, give me my I.D.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
card.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's the law-abiding citizens who will do that.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
An I don't think that is going to be an effective tool to make the -- keep our society safe.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
All right.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
So on guns, somebody wants to cast a vote based on your differences, where are the differences?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, I'm not for registration.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I am for licensing by states of new handgun purchases.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
What's that mean?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
A photo license I.D.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
like a driver's license for new handguns and, you know, the Los Angeles --	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Excuse me, you would have to get the license -- a photo I.D.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
to go in and before you could buy the gun?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Correct.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
All right.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Who would issue the --	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The state.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The state.	Albert A. Gore	NaN	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think states should do that for new handguns, because too many criminals are getting guns.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
There was a recent investigation of the number in Texas who got -- who were given concealed weapons permits in spite of the fact that they had records.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And the "Los Angeles Times" spent a lot of ink going into that.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I am not for doing anything that would affect hunters or sportsmen, rifles, shotguns, existing handguns.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I do think that sensible gun safety measures are warranted now.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Look, this is the year -- this is in the aftermath of Columbine, and Paducah, and all the places in our country where the nation has been shocked by these weapons in the hands of the wrong people.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
The woman who bought the guns for the two boys who did that killing at Columbine said that if she had had to give her name and fill out a form there, she would not have bought those guns.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
That conceivably could have prevented that tragedy.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Back to the question about the differences on gun control.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
What are they, Governor, from your point of view, between you and the Vice President?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, I'm not for photo licensing.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Let me say something about Columbine.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Listen, we've got gun laws.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
He says we ought to have gun-free schools.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Everybody believes that.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm sure every state in the union has got them.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
You can't carry a gun into a school.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And there ought to be a consequence when you do carry a gun into a school.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But Columbine spoke to a larger issue.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's really a matter of culture.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's a culture that somewhere along the line we've begun to disrespect life.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Where a child can walk in and have their heart turned dark as a result of being on the Internet and walk in and decide to take somebody else's life?	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
So gun laws are important, no question about it, but so is loving children, and character education classes, and faith-based programs being a part of after-school programs.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Some desperate child needs to have somebody put their arm around them and say, we love you.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
So there's a -- this is a society that -- of ours that's got to do a better job of teaching children right from wrong.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And we can enforce law.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But there seems to be a lot of preoccupation on -- not certainly only in this debate, but just in general on law.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But there's a larger law.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Love your neighbor like you would like to be loved yourself.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And that's where our society must head if we're going to be a peaceful and prosperous society.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I also believe in the Golden Rule.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I agree with a lot of the other things that the governor has said.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We do have a serious problem in our culture.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Tipper and I have worked on the problem of violence in entertainment aimed at children.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
She's worked on it longer than I have.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I feel very strongly about that.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And if I'm elected president, I will do something about that.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I think that we -- I think we have to start with better parenting.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I don't think that we can ignore the role played by guns.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I mean, the fact is that there -- even though no state wants them, there are guns in some schools.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And the reason it's so difficult for schools to control that is because in recent years there has been a flood of cheap handguns that are so widely available that kids are finding ways to get ahold of them.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I think that if you look at the situation as it exists here in the United States compared to any other country in the world, it seems to me pretty obvious that while we respect the rights of hunters and sportsmen, we do need some common sense gun safety steps to stem this flood of guns that are getting into the wrong hands.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yeah, no question about that, but there also needs to be strong enforcement of the law.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Some kid who feels like -- doesn't matter where the gun comes from, it could be a cheap gun, expensive gun.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
What matters is something in this person's head says there is not going to be a consequence.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
So in my state we toughen up the juvenile justice laws.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We added beds.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We're tough.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We believe in tough love.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We say, if you get caught carrying a gun, you're automatically detained.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And that's what needs to happen.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We've got laws.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
If laws need to be strengthened, like instant background checks, that's important.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
New question.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
As I was saying.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Both of you -- Governor, both of you have talked much about Medicare and health care for seniors.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
What about the more than 40 million younger Americans who do not have health insurance right now?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
What would you do about that?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, I've got a plan to do something about that.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's to make health care affordable and available this way.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
First, there's some who should be buying health care who choose not to.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
There's some --	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Some of the 40 million.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Some of the healthy folks, healthy young kids say I'll never get sick, therefore I don't need health care right now.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
For those what I think we need to do is to develop an investment-type vehicle that would be an incentive for them to invest, like medical savings accounts with rollover capacity.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
In other words, you say to a youngster, it will be in your financial interest to start saving for future illness, but for the working folks that do want to have health care that can't afford it, a couple of things we need to do.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
One, we need more community health centers.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I've developed -- put out money in my budget to expand community health centers all around the country.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
These are places where people can get primary care.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Secondly -- and they're good.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
They're very important parts of the safety net of health care.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Secondly, that you get a $2,000 rebate from the government if you're a family of $30,000 or less -- it scales down as you get higher -- that you can use to purchase health care in the private markets.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It will be a huge down payment for a pretty darn good system.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
If you allow -- also allow -- convince states to -- allow states to allow the mother to match some of the children's health insurance money with it, the pool purchasing power.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And to make health care more affordable, allow business associations like the National Federal of Independent Business or the Chamber of Commerce or the National Restaurant Association to write association plans across jurisdictional lines so that small businesses have got the capacity to have national pooling to drive the cost of insurance down.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think that's the very best way to go.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It empowers people, it trusts people, it makes -- and it's a practical way to encourage people to purchase health care insurance.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's one of my top priorities, Jim, to give every single child in the United States affordable health care within the next four years.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I would like to see eventually in this country some form of universal health care, but I'm not for a government-run system.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
In fact, I'm for shrinking the size of government.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I want a smaller and smarter government.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I have been in charge of this reinventing government streamlining project that's reduced the size of government by more than 300,000 people in the last several years.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And the budget plan that I've put out, according to the "Los Angeles Times" again, the way these things are typically measured as a percentage of the GDP, will bring government spending down to the lowest level in 50 years.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
So I want to proceed carefully to cover more people.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I think we should start by greatly expanding the so-called child health insurance or CHIP program to give health insurance to every single child in this country.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think it's intolerable that we have so many millions of children without any health insurance.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
So it's one of my top priorities.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now, I know that we have some disagreements on this.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I'm sorry to tell you that, you know, there is a record here.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And Texas ranks 49th out of the 50 states in health care -- in children with health care.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
49th for women with health care, and 50th for families with health care.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
So it is a priority for me.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I guarantee you.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm not aware of any program -- well, I'll just leave it at that.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think it ought to be a top priority.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Governor, did the -- are the vice president's figures correct about Texas?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
First of all, let me say he's not for a government-run health care system?	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I thought that's exactly what he and Mrs. Clinton and them fought for in 1993 was a government-run health care system.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It was fortunately stopped in its tracks.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Secondly, we spend $4.7 billion a year on the uninsured in the State of Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Our rate of uninsured, the percentage of uninsured in Texas has gone down, while the percentage of uninsured in America has gone up.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Our CHIPS program got a late start because our government meets only four months out of every two years, Mr. Vice President.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It may come as a shock for somebody who has been in Washington for so long.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But actually limited government can work in the second largest state in the union.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And therefore Congress passes the bill after our session in 1997 ended, we passed an enabling legislation in 1999.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We've signed up over 110,000 children to the CHIPS program.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
For comparable states our size, we're signing them up as fast as any other state.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
You can quote all the numbers you want, but I'm telling you we care about our people in Texas.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
We spent a lot of money to make sure people get health care in the State of Texas, and we're doing a better job than they are at the national level for reducing uninsured.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Is he right?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, I don't know about all these percentages that he throws out, but I do know that -- I speculate that the reason why he didn't answer your question directly as to whether my numbers were right, the facts were right about Texas ranking dead last in families with health insurance and 49th out of 50 for both children and women, is because those facts are correct.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And as for why it happened, I'm no expert on the Texas procedures, but what my friends there tell me is that the governor opposed a measure put forward by Democrats in the legislature to expand the number of children that would be covered.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And instead directed the money toward a tax cut, a significant part of which went to wealthy interests.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
He declared the need for a new tax cut for the oil companies in Texas an emergency need, and so the money was taken away from the CHIP program.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
There's -- you don't have to take my word for this.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
There is now a federal judge's opinion about the current management of this program ordering the State of Texas to do -- you should read that judge's language about this.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I believe there are 1.4 million children in Texas who do not have health insurance.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
600,000 of whom, and maybe some of those have since gotten it, but as of a year ago 600,000 of them were actually eligible for it but they couldn't sign up for it because of the barriers that they had set up.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Let's let the governor respond to that.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Are those numbers correct?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Are his charges correct?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
If he's trying to allege that I'm a hard-hearted person and I don't care about children, he's absolutely wrong.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We've spent $4.7 billion a year in the State of Texas for uninsured people.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And they get health care.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now, it's not the most efficient way to get people health care.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I want to remind you, the number of uninsured in America during their watch has increased.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
He can make any excuse he wants, but the facts are that we're reducing the number of uninsured percentage of our population.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And as the percentage of the population is increasing nationally, somehow the allegation that we don't care and we're going to give money for this interest or that interest and not for children in the State of Texas is totally absurd.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Let me just tell you who the jury is.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
The people of Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
There's only been one governor ever elected to back-to-back four-year terms, and that was me.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I was able to do so with a lot of Democrat votes, nearly 50% of the Hispanic vote, about 27% of the African-American vote, because people know I'm a conservative person and a compassionate person.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
So he can throw all the kinds of numbers around.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm just telling you our state comes together to do what is right.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We come together both Republicans and Democrats.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Let me put that directly to you, Vice President Gore.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The reason you brought this up, is it -- are you suggesting that those numbers and that record will reflect the way Governor Bush will operate in this area of health insurance as president?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yes, yes.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But it's not a statement about his heart.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I don't claim to know his heart.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think he's a good person.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I make no allegations about that.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I believe him when he says that he has a good heart.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I know enough about your story to admire a lot of the things that you have done as a person.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I think it's about his priorities.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And let me tell you exactly why I think that the choice he made to give a tax cut for the oil companies and others before addressing this -- I mean, if you were the governor of a state that was dead last in health care for families, and all of a sudden you found yourself with the biggest surplus your state had ever had in its history, wouldn't you want to maybe use some of it to climb from 50th to, say, 45 or 40 or something or maybe better?	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I would.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now, but here is why it's directly relevant, Jim.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Because by his own budget numbers, his proposals for spending on tax cuts for the wealthiest of the wealthy are more than the new spending proposals that he has made for health care and education and national defense all combined.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
According to his own numbers.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
So it's not a question of his heart, as far as I know.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's a question of priorities and values.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
See, you know --	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Let me ask --	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
First of all, that's simply not true what he just said, of course.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And secondly, I repeat to you --	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
What is not true, Governor?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
That we spent -- the top 1% receive 223 as opposed to 445 billion in new spending.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
The top -- let's talk about my tax plan.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
The top 1% will pay one-third of all the federal income taxes.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And in return, get one-fifth of the benefits, because most of the tax reductions go to the people at the bottom end of the economic ladder.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
That stands in stark contrast, by the way, to a man who is going to leave 50 million -- 50 million Americans out of tax relief.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We just have a different point of view.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's a totally different point of view.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
He believes only the right people ought to get tax relief.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I believe everybody who pays taxes ought to get tax relief.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Let me go back to Texas, for example, for a minute.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We pay 4.7 billion.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I can't emphasize to you how much.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I signed a bill that puts CHIPS in place.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
The bill finally came out at the end of the 1999 session.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We're working hard to sign up children.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We're doing it faster than any other state our size, comparable state.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We're making really good progress.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And our state cares a lot about our children.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
My priority is going to be the health of our citizens.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
These folks have had eight years to get something done in Washington, D.C. on the uninsured.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
They have not done it.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
They've had eight years to get something done on Medicare.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And they have not got it done.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And my case to the American people is, if you're happy with inactivity, stay with the horse.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
The horse is up here now.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But if you want change, you need to get somebody that knows how to bring Republicans and Democrats together to get positive things done for America.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
New question, new subject.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore, on the environment.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
In your 1992 book you said, quote, "We must make the rescue of our environment the central organizing principle for civilization and there must be a wrenching transformation to save the planet."	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Do you still feel that way?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I do.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think that in this 21st century we will soon see the consequences of what's called global warming.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
There was a study just a few weeks ago suggesting that in summertime the north polar ice cap will be completely gone in 50 years.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Already many people see the strange weather conditions that the old timers say they've never seen before in their lifetimes.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And what's happening is the level of pollution is increasing significantly.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now, here is the good news, Jim.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
If we take the leadership role and build the new technologies, like the new kinds of cars and trucks that Detroit is itching to build, then we can create millions of good new jobs by being first into the market with these new kinds of cars and trucks and other kinds of technologies.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
You know the Japanese are breathing down our necks on this.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
They're moving very rapidly because they know that it is a fast-growing world market.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Some of these other countries, particularly in the developing world, their pollution is much worse than anywhere else and their people want higher standards of living.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And so they're looking for ways to satisfy their desire for a better life and still reduce pollution at the same time.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think that holding onto the old ways and the old argument that the environment and the economy are in conflict is really outdated.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We have to be bold.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We have to provide leadership.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now it's true that we disagree on this.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The governor said that he doesn't think this problem is necessarily caused by people.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
He's for letting the oil companies into the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Houston has just become the smoggiest city in the country.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And Texas is number one in industrial pollution.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We have a very different outlook.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I'll tell you this, I will fight for a clean environment in ways that strengthen our economy.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Governor?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, let me start with Texas.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
We are a big industrial state.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We reduced our industrial waste by 11%.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We cleaned up more brown fields than any other administration in my state's history, 450 of them.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Our water is cleaner now.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Explain what a brown field is to those who don't follow this.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
A brown field is an abandoned industrial site that just sits idle in some of our urban centers.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And people are willing to invest capital in the brown fields don't want to do so for fear of lawsuit.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think we ought to have federal liability protection, depending upon whether or not standards have been met.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
The book you mentioned that Vice President Gore wrote, he also called for taxing -- big energy taxes in order to clean up the environment.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And now that the energy prices are high, I guess he's not advocating those big energy taxes right now.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I believe we ought to fully fund the Land and Water Conservation Fund to -- with half the money going to states so states can make the right decisions for environmental quality.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think we need to have clean coal technologies.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I propose $2 billion worth.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
By the way, I just found out the other day an interesting fact, that there is a national petroleum reserve right next to -- in Prudhoe Bay that your administration opened up for exploration in that pristine area.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And it was a smart move because there's gas reserves up there.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We need gas pipelines to bring the gas down.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Gas is a clean fuel that we can burn to -- we need to make sure that if we decontrol our plants that there's mandatory -- that the plants must conform to clean air standards, the grandfathered plants, that's what we did in Texas.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
No excuses.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
You must conform.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
In other words, there are practical things we can do.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But it starts with working in a collaborative effort with states and local folks.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
If you own the land, every day is Earth Day.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
People care a lot about their land and care about their environment.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Not all wisdom is in Washington, D.C. on this issue.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Where do you see the basic difference in very simple terms in two or three sentences between you and the governor on the environment?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
If a voter wants to make a choice, what is it?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm really strongly committed to clean water and clean air, and cleaning up the new kinds of challenges like global warming.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
He is right that I'm not in favor of energy taxes.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I am in favor of tax cuts to encourage and give incentives for the quicker development of these new kinds of technologies.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And let me say again, Detroit is rearing to go on that.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
We differ on the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, as I have said.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We differ on whether or not pollution controls ought to be voluntary.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I don't think you can -- I don't think you can get results that way.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We differ on the kinds of appointments that we would make.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Would you say it's a fundamental difference?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think it's a fundamental difference.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Let me give you an example.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Hold on one second.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Okay, sure.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
We've talked about supply.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I just want to know for somebody -- we're getting close to the end of our time here.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
If somebody wanted to vote on the environment, how would you draw the differences, Governor?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, I don't believe in command and control out of Washington, D.C.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I believe Washington ought to set standards, but again I think we ought to be collaborative at the local levels and I think we ought to work with people at the local levels.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And by the way, I just want to make sure -- I can't let him just say something and not correct it.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The electric decontrol bill that I fought for and signed in Texas has mandatory emission standards, Mr. Vice President.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's what we ought to do at the federal level when it comes to grandfathered plants for utilities.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think there's a difference.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think, for example, take -- when they took 40 million acres of land out of circulation without consulting local officials, I thought that was --	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
That was out in the west?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Out in the west, yeah.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And so -- on the logging issue.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's not the way I would have done it.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Perhaps some of that land needs to be set aside.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I certainly would have consulted with governors and elected officials before I would have acted unilaterally.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Would you believe the federal government still has some new rules and new regulations and new laws to pass in the environmental area or do you think --	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Sure, absolutely, so long as they're based upon science and they're reasonable.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
So long as people have input.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
What about global warming?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think it's an issue that we need to take very seriously.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I don't think we know the solution to global warming yet.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I don't think we've got all the facts before we make decisions.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I tell you one thing I'm not going to do is I'm not going to let the United States carry the burden for cleaning up the world's air.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Like Kyoto Treaty would have done.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
China and India were exempted from that treaty.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think we need to be more even-handed, as evidently 99 senators -- I think it was 99 senators supported that position.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Global warming, the Senate did turn it down.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think --	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
99 to nothing.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, that vote wasn't exactly -- a lot of the supporters of the Kyoto Treaty actually ended up voting for that because the way it was worded.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But there's no doubt there's a lot of opposition to it in the Senate.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm not for command and control techniques either.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm for working with the groups, not just with industry but also with the citizen groups and local communities to control sprawl in ways that the local communities themselves come up with.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I disagree that we don't know the cause of global warming.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think that we do.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's pollution, carbon dioxide, and other chemicals that are even more potent, but in smaller quantities, that cause this.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Look, the world's temperature is going up, weather patterns are changing, storms are getting more violent and unpredictable.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
What are we going to tell our children?	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm a grandfather now.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I want to be able to tell my grandson when I'm in my later years that I didn't turn away from the evidence that showed that we were doing some serious harm.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
In my faith tradition, it is -- it's written in the book of Matthew, "Where your heart is, there is your treasure also."	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I believe that -- that we ought to recognize the value to our children and grandchildren of taking steps that preserve the environment in a way that's good for them.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yeah, I agree.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I just -- I think there has been -- some of the scientists, I believe, Mr. Vice President, haven't they been changing their opinion a little bit on global warming?	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
A profound scientist recently made a different --	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Both of you have now violated -- excuse me.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Both of you have now violated your own rules.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Hold that thought.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I've been trying so hard not to.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I know, I know.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But under your alls rules you are not allowed to ask each other a question.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I let you do it a moment ago.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Twice.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now you just -- twice, sorry.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
(LAUGHTER)	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's an interruption, by the way.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's an interruption, okay.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But anyhow, you just did it so now --	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm sorry.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I apologize, Mr. Vice President.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
You aren't allowed to do that either, see?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
(LAUGHTER) I'm sorry, go ahead and finish your thought.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
People care about these things I've found out.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Of course they care about them.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Oh, you mean the rules.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Yeah, right, exactly right.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Go ahead.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
What the heck.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I -- of course there's a lot -- look, global warming needs to be taken very seriously, and I take it seriously.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
But science, there's a lot -- there's differing opinions.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And before we react, I think it's best to have the full accounting, full understanding of what's taking place.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I think to answer your question, I think both of us care a lot about the environment.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
We may have different approaches.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
We may have different approaches in terms of how we deal with local folks.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I just cited an example of the administration just unilaterally acting without any input.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I remember you gave a very good answer to New Hampshire about the White Mountains, about how it was important to keep that collaborative effort in place.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I feel very strongly the same place.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It certainly wasn't the attitude that took place out west, however.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
New question.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Last question.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
For you, Governor.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And this flows somewhat out of the Boston debate.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
You, your running mate, your campaign officials have charged that Vice President Gore exaggerates, embellishes and stretches the facts, etcetera.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Are you -- do you believe these are serious issues?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
This is a serious issue that the voters should use in deciding which one of you two men to vote for on November 7?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, we all make mistakes.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I've been known to mangle a syl-a-ble or two myself, you know, if you know what I mean.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think credibility is important.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It is going to be important for the president to be credible with Congress, important for the president to be credible with foreign nations.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And yes, I think it's something that people need to consider.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
This isn't something new.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I read a report, or a memo, from somebody in his 1988 campaign -- I forgot the fellow's name -- warning then Senator Gore to be careful about exaggerating claims.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I thought during his debate with Senator Bradley saying he authored the EITC when it didn't happen.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I mention the last debate --	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
EITC?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The Earned Income Tax Credit, sorry.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's all right.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
A lot of initials from a guy who's not from Washington, isn't it?	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Anyway, he co-sponsored McCain-Feingold, and yet he didn't.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And so I think this is an issue.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I found it to be an issue in trying to defend my tax relief package.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I thought there was some exaggerations about the numbers.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
But the people are going to have to make up their mind on this issue.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I am going to continue to defend my record and defend my propositions against what I think are exaggerations.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Exaggerations like, for example, only 5% of seniors receive benefits under my Medicare reform package.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's what he said the other day, and that's simply not the case.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I have every right in the world to defend my record and positions.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's what debates are about and that's what campaigns are about.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I got some of the details wrong last week in some of the examples that I used, Jim, and I'm sorry about that.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And I'm going to try to do better.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
One of the reasons I regret it is that getting a detail wrong interfered several times with the point that I was trying to make.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
However many days that young girl in Florida stood in her classroom, however long, even if it was only one day, doesn't change the fact that there are a lot of overcrowded classrooms in America and we need to do something about that.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
There are seniors who pay more for their prescriptions than a lot of other people, more than their pets, sometimes.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
More sometimes than people in foreign countries.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And we need to do something about that.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Not with the measure that leaves the majority of them without any real basic help until the next president's term of four years is over.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But right away.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And that means doing it under the Medicare program.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I can't promise that I will never get another detail wrong.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I can promise you that I will try not to, and hard.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But I will promise you this with all the confidence in my heart and in the world, that I will do my best if I'm elected president, I'll work my heart out to get the big things right for the American people.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Does that resolve the issue, Governor?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's going to be up to the people, isn't it?	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Does it resolve it for you?	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Depends on what he says in the future in the campaign.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Your folks are saying some awful things.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I hope they're not awful things.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think they may be using the man's own words.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, what I mean is calling him a serial exaggerator --	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I don't believe I've used those words.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
No, but your campaign ads.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Maybe they have.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And your campaign officials have.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And your campaign officials, Mr. Vice President, are now calling the governor a bumbler.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Wait a minute.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
(LAUGHTER)	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I mean, my point is, should this -- is this --	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I don't use language like that and I don't think that we should.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's in your commercial.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I understand.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
The -- I haven't seen that, in my commercials?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
You haven't seen the commercial?	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Your --	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think that what -- I think the point of that is that anybody would have a hard time trying to make a tax cut plan that is so large, that would put us into such big deficits, that gives almost half the benefits to the wealthiest of the wealthy.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think anybody would have a hard time explaining that clearly in a way that makes sense to the average person.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
That's the kind of exaggeration I was just talking about.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
(LAUGHTER)	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Well, I wasn't the one having trouble explaining it.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
Gentlemen, it's time to go to the closing statements.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
And Vice President Gore, you have two minutes.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Jim, one of the issues that I would like to close with in my statement is education, because it's an example of the overall approach that I think is important.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
This race is about values, it's about change, it's about giving choices to the American people.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And education is my number one priority, because I think that it's the most important big major change that we can bring in our country.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I agree with Governor Bush that we should have new accountability, testing of students.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think that we should require states to test all students, test schools and school districts, and I think that we should go further and require teacher testing for new teachers also.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
The difference is that while my plan starts with new accountability and maintains local control, it doesn't stop there.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Because I want to give new choices to parents.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
To send their kids to college with a $10,000 tax deduction for college tuition per child per year.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I want to reduce the size of the classrooms in this country.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
For one basic reason, so that students can get more one-on-one time with teachers.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
And the way to do that is first to recruit more teachers.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I've a plan in my budget to recruit 100,000 new, highly qualified teachers and to help local school districts build new schools.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I think that we have to put more emphasis on early learning and pre-school.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Now, here is how that connects with all the rest of what we've been talking about.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
If you have -- if you squander the surplus on a huge tax cut that goes mostly to those at the top, then you can't make education the top priority.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
If the tax cut is your number one, two, three and four priority, you can't do education.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
You can't do both.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
You have to choose.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I choose education and health care, the environment and retirement security, and I ask for your support.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Governor Bush, two minutes.	MODERATOR	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Jim, thank you very much.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
Mr. Vice President, thank you very much, and I would like to thank the folks here at Wake Forest, and I want to thank you all for listening.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm running to get some things done for America.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
There's too many issues left unresolved.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
There's been too much finger pointing and too much name calling in Washington, D.C.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I would like to unite this country to get an agenda done that will speak to the hopes and aspirations of the future.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I want to have an education system that sets high standards, local control of schools and strong accountability.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
No child should be left behind in America.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I want to make sure we rebuild our military to keep the peace.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I worry about morale in today's military.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
The warning signs are clear.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It is time to have a new commander in chief who will rebuild the military, pay our men and women more, make sure they're housed better and have a focused mission for our military.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Once and for all, I want to do something about Medicare.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
This issue has been too long on the table because it's been a political issue.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's time to bring folks together to say that all seniors will get prescription drug coverage.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	11 Oct 2000
I want to do something about Social Security.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
It's an important priority, because now is the time to act and we're going to say to our seniors, our promises we've made to you will be promises kept.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
But younger workers, in order to make sure the system exists tomorrow, younger workers ought to be able to take some of your own money and invest it in safe securities to get a better rate of return on that money.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
And finally, I do believe in tax relief.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I believe we can set our priorities.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I don't believe, like the vice president does, in huge government.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I believe in limited government.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
By having a limited government and a focused government, we can send some of the money back to the people who pay the bills.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
I want to have tax relief for all people who pay the bills in America, because I think you can spend your money more wisely than the federal government can.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	11 Oct 2000
Thank you for listening.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
I'm asking for your vote, and God bless.	George W. Bush	O	2000	11 Oct 2000
From historic Danville, Kentucky, good evening, and welcome to this year's only vice presidential debate sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I'm Bernard Shaw of CNN, moderator.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Tonight we come to you from Newlin hall in the Norton Center for the Arts on the campus of Centre College.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
To President John Rausch, the faculty, students and community leaders state-wide, we thank you for hosting this debate.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The candidates are the Republican nominee, former Defense Secretary Dick Cheney of Wyoming, and the Democratic nominee, Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The Commission, these candidates and their campaign staffs have agreed to the following rules.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
A candidate shall have two minutes to respond to the moderator's question.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The other candidate shall have two minutes to comment on the question or the first candidate's answer.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
When I exercise the moderator's discretion of extending discussion of a question, no candidate may speak for more than two minutes at one time.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
This audience has been told no disruptions will be tolerated.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
A prior coin toss has determined that the first question will go to the Democratic candidate.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Senator, few hard working Americans would base their well-being on bonuses they hope to get five or ten years from now.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Why do you, and you, Secretary Cheney, predict surpluses you cannot possibly guarantee to pay for your proposed programs?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Before I answer that very important question, let me first thank you for moderating the debate.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Let me thank the wonderful people here at Centre College and throughout Kentucky for being such gracious hosts, and let me give a special thank you to the people of Connecticut without whose support over these last 30 years I would never have had the opportunity Al Gore has given me this year.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
And finally let me thank my family that is here with me.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
My wife, Hadassah, our children, our siblings and my mom.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
My 85-year-old mom gave me some good advice about the debate earlier today.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
She said, sweetheart -- as she's prone to call me -- remember, be positive and know that I will love you no matter what you're opponent says about you.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Well, Mom, as always, that was both reassuring and wise.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I am going to be positive tonight.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I'm not going to indulge in negative personal attacks.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I'm going to talk about the issues that matter to the people of this country; education, health care, retirement security and moral values.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I'm going to describe the plan that Al Gore and I have for keeping America's prosperity going and making sure that it benefits more of America's families, particularly the hard-working middle class families who have not yet fully benefitted from the good times we've had.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
And Bernie, I'm going to explain tonight how we're going to do all this and remain fiscally responsible.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Let me get to your question.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
You have about ten seconds.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We're not spending any more than is projected by the experts, unlike our opponents.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We're setting aside $300 billion in a reserve fund in case the projections the nonpartisan experts make aren't quite right.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We understand that balancing the budget, keeping America out of debt is a way to keep interest rates down and the economy growing.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Secretary Cheney.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I want to thank the people here in Centre College in Danville, Kentucky, for sponsoring this and making it possible.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
And I'm delighted to be here tonight with you, Joe.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I too want to avoid any personal attacks.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I promise not to bring up your singing.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
(LAUGHTER)	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I promise not to sing.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Good.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think this is an extraordinarily important decision we'll make on November 7th.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We're really going to choose between what I consider to be an old way of governing ourselves of high levels of spending, high taxes, ever more intrusive bureaucracy or a new course, a new era, if you will.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And Governor Bush and I want to offer that new course of action.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
With respect to the surplus, Bernie, we have to make some kind of forecast.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We can't make 12-month decisions in this business.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We're talking about the kinds of fundamental changes in programs and government that are going to affect people's lives for the next 25 or 30 years.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And while it may be a little risky in some respects from an economic standpoint to try to forecast surpluses, I think we have to make some planning assumption to proceed.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We care a great deal about the issues at stake here.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
One of the difficulties we have, frankly, for the last eight years we ignored a lot of these problems.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We haven't moved aggressively on Social Security, on Medicare.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
There are important issues out there that need to be resolved.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's important for us to get on with that business.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's what Governor Bush and I want to do.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
You alluded to problems.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
There's no magic bullet -- Secretary Cheney, in this question to you -- no magic bullets to solve the problems of public education.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
What is the next best solution?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think public education is a solution.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Our desire is to find ways to reform our educational system, to return it to its former glory.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I'm a product of public schools, my family, wife and daughters all went to public schools.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We believe very much in the public school system.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
But if you look at where we are from the standpoint of the nation, recent exams.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
For example, the National Assessment of Educational Progress, an independent testing service, shows there's been no progress on reading scores in the last eight years.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Almost no progress on math.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
The achievement gap between minority and non-minority students is as big as itâ€™s ever been.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We've had a significant increase in spending for education nationwide, but it has produced almost no positive results.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's unacceptable from our standpoint.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
If you look at it and think about it, we now have in our most disadvantaged communities, 70% of our fourth graders can't read at the basic level of understanding.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We've graduated 15 million kids from high school in the last few years who can't read at a significant level.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
They are permanently sentenced to a lifetime of failure.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
What we want to do is to change that.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We think we know how to do it.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Governor Bush has done it in Texas.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We want to emphasize local control so that people here in Danville, KY decide what is best for their kids.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We want to insist on high standards.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
One of the worst things we can do is fail to establish high standards, in effect to say to a youngster because of their ethnic background or income level, we don't have the same kind of expectations from you that we have from everybody else.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We want accountability.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have to test every child every year to know whether or not we're making progress with respect to achieving those goals and objectives.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We think it's extraordinarily important.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Probably the single most important issue in this campaign.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Governor Bush has made it clear that when he's elected this will be his number one priority as a legislative measure to submit to the Congress.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Senator.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Al Gore and I are committed to making America's public schools the best in the world.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I disagree with what my opponent has said.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
A lot of progress has been made in recent years.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Average testing scores are up and a lot of extraordinary work is being done by tens of thousands of parents, teachers and administrators all around America.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
There is more to be done.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
If you'll allow me, I want to go back to your last question.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
It leads to this question.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think both of us agree that leaving aside the Social Security and Medicare surpluses, there's $1.8 trillion in surplus available to spend over the next ten years.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
As I said before we're being fiscally responsible about it.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We're taking $300 billion off the top to put in reserve fund.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The rest we'll use for middle class tax cuts and invest in programs like education.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
There's a big difference between these two tickets.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Our opponents are going to spend $1.6 trillion of the $1.8 trillion surplus projected on that big tax cut that Al Gore talked about the other night so effectively.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We're saving money to invest in education.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
You cannot reform education and improve it in this country without spending some money.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Al Gore and I have committed $170 billion for that purpose.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
To recruit 100,000 new teachers to reduce the size of classrooms.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
To help local school districts build new buildings so our children are not learning in crumbling classrooms.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And we're not just going to stop at high school.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We're going to go on and give the middle class the ability to deduct up to $10,000 a year in the cost of college tuition.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Now, that is a tremendous life-saving change which will help people carry on their education and allow them to develop the kinds of skills that will help them succeed in the hi-tech economy of today.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
This is a very important issue, Bernie.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Maybe we could extend on education for a moment.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
You're asking me to invoke the moderator's discussion?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Yes.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
It is so granted.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Thank you, sir.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Your honor, do I have a chance to respond?	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Of course you do.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The secretary will have two minutes and then you'll have two minutes.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Letâ€™s talk about this question of the surplus because it drives a lot of what we're talking about here, Joe.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
If you look at our proposal, we take half of the projected surplus and set it aside for Social Security.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Over $2.4 trillion.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We take roughly a fourth of it for other urgent priorities such as Medicare reform and education, several of these other key programs we want to support.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And we take roughly one-fourth of it and return it in the form of a tax cut to the American taxpayer.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We think it's extraordinarily important to do that.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It is a fundamental difference between our two approaches.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
If you look, frankly, by our numbers and the numbers of the Senate Budget Committee, which has totaled up all the promises that Vice President Gore has made during the course of the campaign, they are some $900 billion in spending over and above that surplus already and we still have a month to go in the campaign.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The fact is that the program that we put together we think is very responsible.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Suggestion that somehow all of it is going for tax cuts isn't true.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Another way to look at it is over the course of the next ten years we'll collect roughly $25 trillion in revenue.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We want to take about 5% of that and return that to the American taxpayer in the form of tax relief.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have the highest level of taxation now we've had since World War II.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The average American family is paying about 40% in federal, state and local taxes.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We think it is appropriate to return to the American people so that they can make choices themselves in how that money ought to be spent; whether on education, retirement or on paying their bills.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It is their choice and it is their prerogative.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We want to give them the opportunity to make those kinds of choices for themselves and we think this is a totally reasonable approach.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Senator?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Let me start with the numbers.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
With all due respect, the Senate Budget Committee estimates that Dick Cheney has just referred to are the estimates of the partisan Republican staff of the Senate Budget Committee.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We're using the numbers presented by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We start with an agreement which is this surplus in the Social Security fund should be locked up and used for Social Security.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's where the agreement ends.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We also agree and believe and pledge that the surplus in the Medicare trust fund should also be locked up with a sign on it that says â€œpoliticians keep your hands off.â€ Our opponents do not do that.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
In fact, they raid the Medicare trust fund to pay for, well, their tax cut and other programs that they can't afford because they've spent so much on the tax cut.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Let me come back to the remaining $1.8 trillion that we both talked about.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The numbers show that $1.6 trillion goes to the big tax cut which, as Al Gore said the other night, sends 43% to the top 1%.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Worse than that, when you add on the other spending programs that our opponents have committed to, plus the cost of their plan to privatize Social Security, by our calculations they're $1.1 trillion in debt.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
That means we go back down the road to higher interest rates, to higher unemployment, to a kind of self-tax increase on every American family.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Because when interest rates go up, so, too, do the cost of mortgage payments, car payments, student loans, credit card transactions.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
So if we've learned anything over the last eight years, it is that one of the most important things the government can do, the federal government, probably the most important, is to be fiscally responsible.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
And that's why Al Gore and I are committed to balancing the budget every year.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
In fact, the paying off the debt by the year 2012, when by our calculation our opponent's economic plan still leaves America $2.8 trillion in debt.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Time.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The next question goes to you.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Gentlemen, this is the 21st Century.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Yet on average an American working woman in our great nation earns 75 cents for each $1 earned by a working male.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
What do you males propose to do about it?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's a good and important question.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Obviously in our time, fortunately, great advances have been made by women achieving the kind of equality that they were too long denied.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Bernie, your question is absolutely right.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Women -- actually the number I have received 72 cents for every $1 a man receives in a comparable job.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Al Gore and I have issued an economic plan in which we've stated specific goals for the future.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And one of those goals is to eliminate the pay gap between men and women.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's unfair and it's unacceptable.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And the first way we will do that is by supporting the Equal Pay Act which has been proposed in Congress which gives women the right to file legal actions against employers who are not treating them fairly and not paying them equally.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Secondly, we're going to do everything we can using governmental support of business agencies such as the Small Business Administration to help women business owners have an opportunity to invest and begin businesses and make larger incomes themselves.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And there are other civil rights and human rights laws that I think can come to play here.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
So bottom line, this is an unfair and unacceptable situation.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And even though, as the economy has risen in the last eight years, America's women have risen with it and received more income, until women are receiving the same amount of pay for the same job they're doing as a man receives, we've not achieved genuine equality in this country.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Al Gore and I are committed to closing that gap and achieving that equality.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
In so many families women are a significant bread earner or the only bread earner.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
So this cause affects not only the women, but families and the children as well.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Mr. Secretary.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I share the view that we ought to have equal pay for equal work regardless of someone's gender.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have made progress in recent years, but I think we have a ways to go.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's not just about the differential with respect to women.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
If you look at our opponent's tax proposal, they discriminate between stay-at-home moms with children that they take care of themselves and those who go to work or who, in fact, have their kids taken care of outside the home.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
You, in effect, as a stay-at-home mom get no tax advantage under the Gore tax plan as contrasted with the Bush proposal.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
It provides tax relief for absolutely everybody who pays taxes.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's important to understand the things we're trying to change and address in the course of the campaign and what our agenda is for the future, our plans are for the future, focus very much about giving as much control as we can to individual Americans, be they men or women, be they single or married, as much control as possible over their own lives, especially in the area of taxation.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We want to make certain that the American people have the ability to keep more of what they earn and then they can get to decide how to spend it.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The proposal we have from Al Gore, basically, doesn't do that.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It in effect lays out some 29 separate tax credits.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
If you live your life the way they want you to live your life, if you behave in a certain way, you qualify for a tax credit and at that point you get some relief.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Bottom line, though, is 50 million American taxpayers out there get no advantages at all out of the Gore tax proposal, whereas under the Bush plan everybody who pays taxes will get tax relief.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Might I have an opportunity to respond?	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
You can respond senator.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
But I caution you gentlemen if you do this consistently we won't cover a lot of topics.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
After the Senator responds, you don't have to feel compelled to respond to the Senator.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Depends on what he says.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
This is an important difference between us.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I want to clarify it briefly if I can.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The first thing is the tax relief program that we've proposed, one of the many tax credits for the middle class includes a $500 tax credit for stay-at-home moms just as a way of saying we understand that you are performing a service for our society.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We want you to have that tax credit.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Second, the number of 50 million Americans not benefitting from our tax cut program is absolutely wrong.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's an estimate done on an earlier form of our tax cut program and it's just plain wrong.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
And secondly, although Governor Bush says that his tax cut program, large as it is, gives a tax cut to everybody, as the newspapers indicated earlier this week, the Joint Committee on Taxation, again a nonpartisan group in Congress, says that 27 million Americans don't get what the governor said they would in the tax program.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Al Gore and I want to live within our means.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Weâ€™re not going to give it all away in one big tax cut and certainly not to the 1% of the public that doesn't need it now.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We're focusing our tax cut on the middle class in the areas they tell us they need it.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Tax credits for better and more expensive child care, tax credits for middle class families that don't have health insurance from their employers.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
The tax deduction I talked about earlier.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Very exciting deduction for up to $10,000 a year in the cost of a college tuition.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
A $3,000 tax credit for the cost -- well, actually for a family member who stays home with a parent or grandparent who is ill. And a very exciting tax credit program that I hope I'll have a chance to talk about later, Bernie, that encourages savings by people early in life and any time in life by having the federal government match savings for the 75 million Americans who make $100,000 or less up to $2,000 a year.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Very briefly, if a young couple making $50,000 a year saves $1,000, the government will put another $1,000 in that account.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
By the time they retire, they'll not only have guaranteed Social Security, but more than $200,000 in that retirement fund.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Now, that's --	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Your time is up, Senator.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
You have to be a CPA to understand what he just said.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The fact of the matter is the plan is so complex that the ordinary American is never going to ever figure out what they even qualify for.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's a classic example of wanting to have a program, in this case a tax program, that will, in fact, direct people to live their lives in certain ways rather than empowering them to make decisions for themselves.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
It is a big difference between us.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
They like tax credits, we like tax reform and tax cuts.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Mr. Secretary, this question is for you.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Would you support the effort of House Republicans who want legislation to restrict distribution of the abortion drug RU-486?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The abortion issue is a very tough one, without question, and a very important one.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Governor Bush and I have emphasized while, while we are clearly both pro-life, thatâ€™s what we believe.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We want to reduce the incidence of abortion on our society.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Many on the pro-choice side have said the same thing.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Even Bill Clinton has advocated reducing abortion to make it as rare as possible.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
With respect to the question of RU-486, we believe that -- of course, that it's recently been approved by the FDA.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
That really was a question of whether or not it was safe to be used by women.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
They didn't address the sort of the question of whether or not there should or should not be abortion in the society so much as evaluate that particular drug.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
What we would like to be able to do is to look for ways to reach across the divide between the two points of view and find things that we can do together to reduce the incidence of abortion.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Such things as promoting adoption as an alternative.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Encouraging parental notification.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
And we also think banning the horrific practice of partial birth abortions is an area where there could be agreement.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Congress has twice passed by overwhelming margins, a significant number of votes from both parties, the ban on partial birth abortions.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Twice it's been vetoed by Bill Clinton and Al Gore.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We would hope eventually they would recognize that's not a good position for them to be in.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
With respect to the RU-486 proposal, at this stage I haven't looked in particular at that particular piece of legislation.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Governor Bush made it clear the other night he did not anticipate that he would be able to go in and direct the FDA to reverse course on that particular issue, primarily because the decision they made was on the drug, not the question of whether or not it would support abortion.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's a very important question and one on which these two tickets have dramatically different points of view.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
My answer is no, I would not support legislation that is being introduced in Congress to override the Food and Drug Administration decision on RU-486.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The administration, FDA worked 12 years on this serious problem.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
They made a judgment based on what was good for women's health.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
A doctor has to pescribe and care for a woman using it.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think it's a decision we ought to let stand because it was made by experts.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
But let me say more generally that the significant difference here on this issue is that Al Gore and I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Our opponents will not.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We know that this is a difficult personal, moral, medical issue, but that is exactly why it ought to be left under our law to a woman, her doctor and her God.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Now, one area in which we agree, Al Gore and I, we believe that the government ought to do everything it can to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And, therefore, the number of abortions.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Incidentally, here there is good news to report.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The number of abortions is actually down in America over the last eight years.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
In fact, over the last eight years the number of teenage pregnancies has dropped 20%.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And the reason it has is that there are good programs out there that Al Gore and I will continue to support, such as family planning and programs that encourage abstinence.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
But when the health of a woman is involved, I think the government has to be respectful.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I supported, in fact, a bill in the Senate that would have prohibited late-term abortions except in cases where the health or life of the mother was involved.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I did not support the so-called partial birth abortion bill because it would have prohibited that form of abortion at any stage of the pregnancy regardless of the effect on the health and life of the woman.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's unacceptable.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
This question is for you, Senator.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
If Yugoslaviaâ€™s Slobodan Milosevic prevails, notwithstanding the election results, would you support his overthrow?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Well, there's good news from Belgrade today, Bernie, as you know.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's unconfirmed.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The encouraging news is that the state news agency is reporting that Mr. Kostunica is the president-elect.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
There are some press reports that are unconfirmed that say that Milosevic has actually left Belgrade.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
That is a very happy ending to a terrible story.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's the end of a reign of terror.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
If that is not confirmed and does not happen, then I think the United States, with its European allies, ought to do everything we can to encourage the people of Serbia to do exactly what they've been doing over the last few days to rise up and end this reign of terror by Milosevic, and bring themselves back into the family of nations where they will be welcomed by the United States and others.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
You know, I'm very proud on this night as it appears that Milosevic is about to or has fallen, of the leadership role the United States played in the effort to stop his aggression and genocide in Bosnia and Kosovo.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I know our opponents have said they thought it was overreaching.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
It wasn't.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
It was a matter of principle in America's national interest and values.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The fact is that we stopped the aggression, we stopped the genocide, and therefore strengthened our relationship with our European allies in NATO.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
And, in fact, made the United States more respected and trusted by our allies and more feared by our enemies.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think that Vice President Gore played a critical role, passionate purposive role in leading the administration, along with Republican supporters like Bob Dole and John McCain, to do the right thing in the Balkans.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And hopefully tonight we're seeing the final results of that bold and brave effort.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Secretary Cheney.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I noted, Bernie, like Joe, I'm pleased to see what happened in Yugoslavia today.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I hope it marks the end of Milosevic.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think probably more than anything else it's a victory for the Serbian people.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
They've taken to the streets to support their democracy, to support their vote.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
In some respects this is a continuation of a process that began ten years ago all across eastern Europe and has only now arrived in Serbia.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We saw it in Germany, we saw it in Rumania, we saw it in Czechoslovakia, as the people of eastern Europe rose up and made their claim for freedom.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And I think we all admire that.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think with respect to how this process has been managed most recently, we want to do everything we can to support Mr. Milosevic's departure.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Certainly, though, that would not involve committing U.S. troops.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I do think it's noteworthy that there appears to be an effort underway to get the Russians involved.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I noted the other night, for example, Tuesday night at the debate in Boston, Governor Bush suggested exactly that we ought to try to get the Russians involved to exercise some leverage over the Serbians.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's now clear from the press that, in fact, that's exactly what they were doing.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's -- Governor Bush was correct in his assessment and his recommendation.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
He has supported the administration on Kosovo.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
He lobbied actively against passage of the Byrd-Warner provision which would have set a specific deadline, one he felt was too soon, for forcing the U.S. troops out.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
He's been supportive of the policy that we've seen with respect to Yugoslavia.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And I think he deserves a lot of credit for that.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I would go beyond that.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think this is an opportunity for the United States to test President Putin of Russia.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
That in fact now is the time we ought to find out whether he's committed to democracy.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Whether or not he's willing to support the forces of freedom and democracy diplomatically there in the area of eastern Europe.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And it's a test for him whether he represents the old guard in the Soviet Union.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
One of the most important challenges we face as a nation is how we manage that process of integrating those 150 million eastern Europeans into the security and economic framework of Europe.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Your question, Mr. Secretary.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
You and Governor Bush charge the Clinton-Gore administration have presided over the deterioration and overextension of America's armed forces.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Should U.S. military personnel be deployed as warriors or peacekeepers?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
My preference is to deploy them as warriors.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
There may be occasion when it's appropriate to use them in a peacekeeping role, but I think the role ought to be limited, there ought to be a time limit on it.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The reason we have a military is to be able to fight and win wars.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And to maintain with sufficient strength so that would-be adversaries are deterred from ever launching a war in the first place.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think that the administration has, in fact, in this area failed in a major responsibility.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We've seen a reduction in our forces far beyond anything that was justified by the end of the Cold War.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
At the same time we've seen a rapid expansion of our commitments around the world as troops have been sent hither and yon.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
There was testimony before the Joint Chiefs of Staff before the Armed Services Committee that pointed out a lot of these problems.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
For example General Mike Ryan of the Air Force with 40% fewer aircraft, he's now undertaking three times as many deployments on a regular basis as he had to previously.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We're overcommitted and underresourced.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
This has had some other unfortunate effects.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I saw a letter the other day from a young captain stationed in Fort Bragg, a graduate of West Point in '95 getting ready to get out of the service because he's only allowed to train with his troops when fuel is available for the vehicles and only allowed to fire their weapons twice a year.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
He's concerned that if he had to send them into combat it would mean lives lost.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
That is a legitimate concern, this is a very important area.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
The fact that the U.S. military is worse off today than it was eight years ago.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Major responsibility for us in the future, a high priority for myself and Governor Bush to rebuild the U.S. military and to give them the resources they need to do the job we ask them to do for us and give them good leadership.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Senator, you're shaking your head in disagreement.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I am.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I want to assure the American people that the American military is the best-trained, best-equipped, most powerful force in the world.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And that Al Gore and I will do whatever it takes to keep them that way.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's not right, and it's not good for our military, to run them down essentially in the midst of a partisan political debate.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
The fact is that you've got to judge the military by what the military leaders say.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Secretary Bill Cohen, a good republican, and Gen. Shelton the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, will both tell you the American military is ready to meet any threat we may face in the world today.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
The fact is, judging by its results from Desert Storm to the Balkans, Bosnia and Kosovo, to the operations that are still being conducted to keep Saddam Hussein in a box in Iraq, the American military has performed brilliantly.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
This administration has turned around the drop in spending that began in the mid-'80's and right through the Bush-Cheney administration and the early years of the Clinton administration, but now thatâ€™s stopped.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We passed the largest pay increase in a generation for our military.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And the interesting fact here, in spite of the rhetoric that my opponent has just spoken, the reality is if you look at our projected budgets for the next ten years, Al Gore and I actually commit twice as much, $100 billion in additional funding for our military than Governor Bush does.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And their budget allows nothing additional for acquisition of new weapons systems.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's something the same Gen. Mike Ryan of the airforce and all the other chiefs of the services will not be happy about because they need the new equipment, the new systems that Al Gore and I are committed to giving them.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Bernie, this is a special interest of mine.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I would like a chance to elaborate further, if I might.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The facts are dramatically different.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I'm not attacking the military, Joe.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I have enormous regard for the men and women of the U.S. military.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I had the privilege of working with them for the four years I was the Secretary of Defense.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
No one has a higher regard than I do for them.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's irresponsible to suggest we shouldn't have this debate, that we should ignore what is a major, major concern.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
If you have friends and relatives serving in the U.S. military, you know there's a problem.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
If you look at the data that's available, 40% of our Army helicopters are not combat ready.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The combat readiness level in the Air Force dropped from 85% to 65%.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Significant problems of retention.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
The important thing for us to remember is that we're a democracy and we're defended by volunteers.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Everybody out there tonight wearing the uniform, standing on guard to protect the United States is there because they volunteered to put on a uniform.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
When we don't give them the spare parts they need, when we don't give our pilots the flying hours they need to maintain their proficiency, when we don't give them the kind of leadership that spells out what their mission is and let's them know why they're putting their lives at risk, then we undermine that morale.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's an extraordinarily valuable trust.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
There is no more important responsibility for a President of the United States than his role as Commander in Chief, and the obligation he undertakes on behalf o fall of us when he decides when to send our young men and women to war.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
When we send them without the right kind of training, when we send them poorly equipped or with equipment that's old and broken down, we put their lives at risk.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We will suffer more casualties in the next conflict if we don't look to those basic fundamental problems now.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
With all due respect this administration has a bad track record in this regard, and it's available for anybody who wants to look at the record and wants to talk to our men and women in uniform, and wants to spend time with the members of the Joint Chiefs, wants to look at readiness levels and other -- other indicators.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Final point, the issue of procurement is very important because we're running now off the buildup of the investment we made during the Reagan years.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
As that equipment gets old, it has to be replaced.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We've taken money out of the procurement budget to support other ventures.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have not been investing in the future of the U.S. military.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's important to respond to this.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Yes, of course it's an important debate to have as part of this campaign, but I don't want either the military to feel uneasy or the American people to feel insecure.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
What I'm saying now I'm basing on serving on the Senate Armed Services Committee talking to exactly the people Dick Cheney has mentioned, the Secretary of Defense, the Chiefs of Staff.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I've visited our fighting forces around the world.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I'm telling you that we are ready to meet any contingency that might arise.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The good news here and the interesting news is that we have met our recruitment targets in each of the services this year.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
In fact, in the areas where our opponents have said we are overextended, such as the Balkans, the soldiers there have a higher rate of re-enlistment than anywhere else in the service because they feel a sense of purpose, a sense of mission.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
In fact, this administration has begun to transform the American military to take it away from being a Cold War force to prepare it to meet the threats of the new generation of tomorrow, of weapons of mass destruction, of ballistic missiles, terrorism, cyber warfare.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The fact is that Governor Bush recommended in his major policy statement on the military earlier this year that we skip the next generation of military equipment; helicopters, submarines, tactical air fighters, all the rest.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
That would really cripple our readiness.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Exactly the readiness that Dick Cheney is talking about.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Al Gore and I are committed to continuing this acquisition program, transforming the military.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
There's still fewer people in uniform today, but person-to-person, person-by-person, unit-by-unit, this is the most powerful and effective military, not only in the world today, but in the history of the world.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And again, Al Gore and I will do whatever is necessary to keep it that way.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Senator Lieberman, this question to you.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Once again in the Middle East, peace talks on the one hand, deadly confrontations on the other, and the flashpoint, Jerusalem, and then there's Syria.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Is United States policy what it should be?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Yes, it is.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
It has truly pained me in the last week to watch the unrest and the death occurring in the Middle East between the Israelis and the Palestinians.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
So much work has been done by the people there with the support of this administration.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
So much progress has been made in the original Oslo agreements between the Israelis, the Palestinians, adopted in 1993, and the peace between Israel and Jordan thereafter.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I mean America has a national strategic interest and principled interest in peace in the Middle East, and Al Gore has played a critical role in advancing that process over the last eight years.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
What pains me is I watched the unrest in recent days between the Israelis and the Palestinians.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
That these two peoples have come in some senses, generations forward, centuries forward, in the last seven years.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
They are so close to a final peace agreement, I hope and pray that the death and unrest in the last week will not create the kinds of scars that make it hard for them to go back to the peace table with American assistance and achieve what I'm convinced the great majority of the Israeli and Palestinian people want, and indeed these people throughout the Middle East, which is peace.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Secretary Albright has been in Paris meeting with prime minister Barak and chairman Arafat.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I hope and pray her mission is successful, that there is a cease fire, and the parties return to the peace table.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We've been on a very constructive course in the Middle East, played an unusual, unique role.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And I'm convinced that Al Gore and I will continue to do that.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I hope I might, through my friendships in Israel and throughout the Arab world, play a unique role in bringing peace to this -- this sacred region of the world.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Bernie, it has been a very, very difficult area to work in for a long time.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Numerous administrations going back certainly to World War II have had to wrestle with the problem of what should happen to the Middle East.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We made significant breakthroughs, I think, at the end of the Bush administration because of the Gulf War.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
In effect, we had joined together with Arab allies and done enormous damage to the Iraqi armed forces.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Iraq was the biggest military threat to Israel.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
By virtue of the end of the Cold War, the Soviets were no longer a factor.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
They used to fish in troubled waters whenever they had the opportunity in the Middle East.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
With the end of the Soviet Union, the implosion of the empire, that created a vacuum if you will, and made it easier for us to operate there.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We were able to, I think, reassure both Arabs and Israelis would play a major role there.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have the ability and the will to deploy forces if we had to, to engage in military operations to help our friends and oppose our foes.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We were able to convene them in a conference.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The first time Arab and Israelis sat down face-to-face and began this process of trying to move the peace process forward.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think also a lot of credit goes to some great men like Yitzak Rabin.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
His tragic passing was of great consequence, a great tragedy for everybody who cares about peace in the Middle East.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
He was a man who had the military stature to be able to confidently persuade the Israelis to take risks for peace.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think Barak has tried to same thing.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I hope that we can get this resolved as soon as possible.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
My guess is the next administration is going to be the one that is going to have to come to grips with the current state of affairs there.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think it's very important that we have an administration where we have a president with firm leadership who has the kind of track record of dealing straight with people, of keeping his word so friends and allies both respect us and our adversaries fear us.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
This question is for you, Mr. Secretary.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
If Iraq's president Saddam Hussein were found to be developing weapons of mass destruction, Governor Bush has said he would, quote, "Take him out."	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Would you agree with such a deadly policy?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We might have no other choice.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We'll have to see if that happens.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The thing about Iraq, of course, was at the end of the war we had pretty well decimated their military.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We had put them back in the box, so to speak.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We had a strong international coalition raid against them, effective economic sanctions, and a very robust inspection regime was in place under the U.N. auspices and it was able to do a good job of stripping out the capacity to build weapons of mass destruction, the work he had been doing that had not been destroyed during the war in biological and chemical agents, as well as a nuclear program.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Unfortunately now we find ourselves in a situation where that started to fray on us, where the coalition now no longer is tied tightly together.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Recently the United Arab Emirates and Bahrain, two Gulf States, have reopened diplomatic relations with Baghdad.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
The Russians and French are flying commercial airliners back into Baghdad and thumbing their nose at the international sanctions regime, and of course U.N. inspectors have been kicked out and thereâ€™s been absolutely no response.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
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We're in a situation today where our posture with Iraq is weaker than it was at the end of the war.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's unfortunate.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I also think it's unfortunate we find ourselves in a position where we don't know for sure what might be transpiring inside Iraq.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I certainly hope he's not regenerating that kind of capability, but if he were, if in fact Saddam Hussein were taking steps to try to rebuild nuclear capability or weapons of mass destruction, you would have to give very serious consideration to military action to -- to stop that activity.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I don't think you can afford to have a man like Saddam Hussein with nuclear weapons in the Middle East.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Senator.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
It would, of course, be a very serious situation if we had evidence, credible evidence, that Saddam Hussein was developing weapons of mass destruction.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I must say, I don't think a political campaign is the occasion to declare exactly what we would do in that case.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think that's a matter of such critical national security importance that it ought to be left to the Commander in Chief, leaders of the military, Secretary of State to make that kind of decision without the heat of a political campaign.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The fact is that we will not enjoy real stability in the Middle East until Saddam Hussein is gone.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The Gulf War was a great victory.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And incidentally, Al Gore and I were two of the ten Democrats in the Senate who crossed party lines to support President Bush and Secretary Cheney in that war.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We're both very proud we did that.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
But, the war did not end with a total victory.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Saddam Hussein remained there.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
As a result, we have had almost ten years now of instability.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have continued to operate almost all of this time military action to enforce a no-fly zone.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have been struggling with Saddam about the inspectors.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We ought to do, and we're doing everything we can to get the inspectors back in there.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
But in the end there's not going to be peace until he goes.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And that's why I was proud to co-sponsor the Iraq Liberation Act with Senator Trent Lott why I have kept in touch with the indigenous Iraqi opposition, broad based, to Saddam Hussein.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The Vice President met with them earlier this year.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We are supporting them in their efforts and will continue to support them until the Iraqi people rise up and do what the people of Serbia have done in the last few days, get rid of a despot.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We'll welcome you back into the family of nations where you belong.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Senator Lieberman, this question is for you.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Many experts are forecasting continuing chaotic oil prices in the world market.	Bernard Shaw	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Wholesale natural gas prices here in our country are leaping.	Bernard Shaw	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Then there are coal and electricity.	Bernard Shaw	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Have previous Republican and Democratic Congresses and administrations, including this one, done their job to protect the American people?	Bernard Shaw	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Not enough, but this administration and Vice President Gore and I have had both a long-term strategy to develop energy independence and a short-term strategy.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
In fact, if the -- this administration had been given the amount of funding that it had requested from the Republican Congress, we would be further along in the implementation of that long-term strategy aimed at developing cleaner sources of energy, giving tax credits to individuals and businesses to conserve and use energy more efficiently.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Aimed at a partnership for a new generation of vehicles with the American automobile industry which is making great progress and can produce a vehicle that can get 80 miles per gallon.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We also have a short-term strategy.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
To deal with exactly the kind of ups and downs of energy prices.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I know it was controversial, but Al Gore and I believed it was important in the short-term to reach into the strategic petroleum reserve, take some of the oil we have, put it in the market, show the big oil companies and the OPEC oil-producing countries that weâ€™ve got some resources with which we can fight back.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We aren't going to lay back and let them roll over our economy.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We did it also because gasoline prices were rising and home heating oil inventories were real low.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Both of our tickets agree on LIHEAP keeping the low income housing assistance program, but our opponents offer no assistance to middle-class families hit by rising gas prices and a shortage of home heating oil.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The fact is that since the reserve was opened the price of oil on world markets has dropped $6 a barrel.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's a good result and I'm proud of it.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Mr. Secretary.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
This is an area, again, where I think again Joe and I have fairly significant disagreements.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
My assessment is that there is no comprehensive energy policy today.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
That as a nation, we are in trouble because the administration has not addressed these issues.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have the prospects of brownouts in California.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have a potential home heating oil crisis in the northeast.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have gasoline price rises in various other places.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
For years now the administration has talked about reducing our dependence on foreign sources of oil, but they haven't done it.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
In fact, we've gone exactly in the opposite direction.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have the lowest rate of domestic production of oil now in 46 years.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
You have to go back to 1954 to find a time when we produced as little oil as we do today.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Our imports are at an all-time record high.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
In June we imported almost 12 million barrels of oil a day.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
That means we are more subject to the wide fluctuations and swings in price.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have other problems.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We don't have refinery capacity.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We haven't built a new refinery in this country for over ten years.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
They're operating at 96% or 97% capacity.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Even with more crude available they're probably not going to be able to do very much by way of producing additional home heating oil for this winter.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have a growing problem with our growing dependence on foreign sources of energy.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
That will allways be the case but we ought to be able to shift the trend and begin to move it in the right direction.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We need to do a lot more about generating the capacity for power here at home.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We need to get on with the business and we think we can do it very safely in an environmentally sound manner.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We don't think we ought to buy into this false choice that somehow we cannot develop energy resources without being cautious with the environment.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We can.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have the technology to do it and we ought to do it.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We do support the low income energy assistance program.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We think it's important that senior citizens don't suffer this winter, but we need to get on to the business of having a plan to develop our domestic energy resources in producing more supplies, and this administration hasn't produced them.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
May I respond to that?	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Senator, I'm going to continue.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I yield.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Thank you, sir.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Your congressional record, you sponsored a bill that said no to oil and gas exploration in the Wyoming wilderness areas of your home state.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
However, you co-sponsored a bill that said yes to drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Your explanation?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
It shows I have a balanced approach to how we deal with environmental issues.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Not a case of not in my backyard?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
No.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think we have to make choices.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The Wyoming wilderness bill, frankly was one of my proudest achievements as a member of Congress.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I worked on that with my good friend Al Simpson for about four years.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We set aside a part of Wyoming, nearly a million acres of wilderness that ought to be separate and not be developed.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We think that was important.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
There are a lot of areas around the country where Governor Bush and I support restraint.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
For example we support the moratorium on drilling off the coast of California, but there are places where we think we ought to go forward and develop those resources.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The Arctic National Wildlife Reserve is one of them.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's on the north slope right next to Prudhoe Bay.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The infrastructure is there to be able to deliver that product to market.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We think we can do it given today's technology in a way that will not damage the environment, will not permanently marr the countryside at all, and so what we're looking for with respect to environmental policy and energy policy is balance.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We do have to make choices, we recognize that.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The way you phrased the question, frankly I welcome because it shows, in fact, we are trying to pursue a balanced approach and the suggestion that somehow all we care about is energy development isn't true.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
But we do have to get on with developing those resources or we're going to find ourselves ever more dependent on foreign sources.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We're going to find that the fact that we don't have an energy policy out there is one of the major storm clouds on the horizon for our economy.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think if you look for something that could develop, some problem that could arise, that might, in fact, jeopardize our continuing prosperity, it's the possibility that we might find ourselves without adequate supplies of energy in the future.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And there would be no quicker way to shut down our economy than that.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Bernie, we agree on the problem but we couldn't disagree more on the response to the problem.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The problem is accurately stated.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
No matter how strong we are economically, if we remain dependent on a source of energy that is outside our control, we're not going to be as strong as we should be.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Others around the world can effectively yank our chain, and we cannot allow that to continue to happen.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I'm afraid that our opponent's response to this is one-sided, and it is essentially to develop the resources within the United States almost regardless of where.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I'm against drilling in the Arctic Refuge.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
This is one of the most beautiful, pristine places that the good Lord has created on earth.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
It happens to be within the United States of America.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's not worth it to do that for what seems to be the possibility of six months' worth of oil, seven to 12 years from now.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's not much of a response to the immediate problem that gasoline consumers and home heating oil customers are facing this winter.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
There are more resources within the United States that we can develop.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
This isn't mentioned much and appreciated much.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
In the last eight years drilling for gas on federal lands has gone up 60% and it's been done in an environmentally protected way.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
The administration has encouraged the drilling for deep gas and oil going on in the western Gulf today.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The answer here is new technology that will create millions of new jobs.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Let me just say this.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
If we can get three miles more per gallon from our cars we'll get a -- we'll save 1 million barrels of oil a day, which is exactly what the refuge at its best in Alaska would produce.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The choice to me is clear.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have to develop fuel cells, alternative energy, encourage people to conserve and to be efficient.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
This question is for you, Senator.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We all know Social Security is the backbone of the retirement system in our nation.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Can either of you pledge tonight categorically that no one will lose benefits under your plans?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Yes, indeed.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I can pledge to the American people categorically that no one will lose benefits under our plan for Social Security as far forward as 2054.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And let me come back and say, Bernie, that Al Gore and I view Social Security as probably the best thing the government did in the second half -- the last century.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It has created a floor under which seniors cannot fall, and so many of them depend on it for their basic living, for their livelihood.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's critically important to protect it.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's why Al and I have committed to putting that Social Security surplus in a lockbox, not touching it.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's what allows us to keep Social Security solvent to 2054.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Our opponents have an idea for privatizing Social Security that will jeopardize Social Security payments to recipients.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And I looked at this idea.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
If I may use an oil industry analogy, which is to say that sometimes as you know, Dick, better than I, you have to drill deep to find out whether there's oil in a well.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
For a while I was drilling into this idea of privatization of Social Security.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
The deeper I got the drier the well became and it seemed to me at the end it was going to dry up Social Security.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It requires taking as much as a trillion dollars out of the Social Security fund.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The independent analysts have said that would put the fund out of money in 2023, or if it's not out of money, benefits will have to be cut by over 50%.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's just not worth doing.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Al Gore and I are going to guarantee Social Security and add to it the retirement savings plan that I mentioned earlier which will help middle-class families looking forward.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
They will have not only Social Security, but a superb extra retirement account as well.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Social Security plus with us.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
With all due respect, Social Security minus from the Bush-Cheney ticket.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
You won't be surprised if I disagree with Joeâ€™s description.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The Social Security system is in trouble.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's been a fantastic program and has been there for 65 years that has provided benefits for senior citizens over that period of time.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
For my parents.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
It means a great deal to millions of Americans.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And Governor Bush and I want to make absolutely certain that the first thing we do is guarantee the continuation of those payments, those benefits and keep those promises that were made.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
But if you look down the road, you say you're 30 years old today, and I have two daughters about that age.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
They seriously question whether or not there will be any system left for them.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's because the demographics that work out there, it's almost an iron law.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
They know how many people there are, when they reach retirement, we know when the baby boom generation is coming along, how long they will live after that, it will drive the system into bankruptcy unless we reform and deal with it.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
The reform we would like to offer is to allow our young people to begin to take a portion of the payroll tax, 2% of it, and invest it in a personal retirement account.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
That does several things.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
First of all, it gives them a stake in the Social Security system.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
That becomes their property.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
They own it.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
They can pass it on to their kids if they want.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
They don't have that kind of equity in Social Security today.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Secondly, we can generate a higher return off that investment than you get in the existing system.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Today you get about a 2% return of what you pay into Social Security.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We think we can generate at least 6%.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
At least three times what we're able to get now.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And long-term by generating a bigger return, we'll put additional funds into the system that will help us survive that crunch that is otherwise going to hit in the future.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Bottom line is there's a choice here.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
With respect to Al Gore and Joe's plan, they don't reform Social Security.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
They add another huge obligation on top of it that future generations will have to pay.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
They donâ€™t touch the basic system itself.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
They don't reform it and don't save it.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have a plan to do that and a plan to give our young people a choice and more control over their own lives.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Mr. Secretary, this question is for you.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Washington is a caldron of political bickering and partisanship.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The American people, gentleman, have had enough.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
How would you elevate political discourse and purpose?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Well, I think there are a number of ways to do it.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
First of all, I agree with your assessment.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I've been out of Washington for the last eight years and spent the last five years running a company global concern.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And been out in the private sector building a business, hiring people, creating jobs.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I have a different perspective on Washington than I had when I was there in the past.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I'm proud of my service for 25 years, but also proud I had the opportunity to go out and get a different experience.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And you're absolutely right.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
People are fed up.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
They've had enough with the bickering and the partisanship that seems to characterize the debate that goes on in the nation's capital.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I've seen it done differently though.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Iâ€™ve seen it in Texas.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I've watched George Bush.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
And one of the reasons I was eager to sign on when he asked me to become his running mate is because I've been so tremendously impressed with what he's done as the Governor of Texas.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
He came in when he had a legislature completely controlled by the other party.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
He managed to reach across partisan lines and unite republicans, and democrats and independents and put them to work to achieve good things for the State of Texas.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Partly because he didn't point the finger of blame looking for scapegoats he was quick to share the credit.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
He ended up, as a result of that activity of his first term, having the top Democrat in the state, Bob Bulloch, endorse George Bush for reelection.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's possible to change the tone.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
It is possible to get people to work together and to begin to focus on achieving results.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think it will take new leadership.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I don't think you can do it, with all due respect to Al Gore, with somebody who spent all the last 24 years in that Washington environment and who campaigns on the basis of castigating others, pointing the finger of blame at others in terms of blaming business or various groups for failings.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think you have to be able to reach out and work together and build coalitions.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think George W. Bush has done it in Texas and can do it at the national level.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
You're absolutely right.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
There's too much partisanship in Washington.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It puzzles me.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
You think people in public life and politics would want to do what would make them popular, and too often people in both parties act in a way that brings down the institutions of government, and each of us individually, and it's a shame.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I have tried very hard in my career to call them as I see them and work with colleagues on both sides of the aisle to get things done.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I'm proud of my record in that regard, and I certainly think that would be an asset that I could bring to the vice presidency should I be fortunate enough to be elected.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
In my senate career Iâ€™ve worked with Bob Dole on Bosnia.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I worked with John McCain on cultural values.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I worked with Connie Mack on foreign policy.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Don Nichols on the International Religious Freedom Act.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
If I go on much longer I'll get in trouble with my own party.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's the way things get done.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I'm proud of those partnerships.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Let me say a word about Al Gore.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
In his years in the house and Senate, he formed similar bipartisan partnerships.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
If you look back over the last eight years, the most significant accomplishments of this administration in which Al Gore was centrally involved were the result, most of them, of bipartisan agreements.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
After all, the Welfare Reform Act, which Al Gore promised to lead the effort on to get people off of welfare to set time limits, to get people to enjoy the dignity of work.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
That was a bipartisan act that was adopted.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The Anti-Crime Act that has helped to lower crime more than 20% in our country was also bipartisan.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
The Balanced Budget Act of 1997 which was critical to getting our economy to the point and our government to the point of unprecedented surplus we enjoy today also was bipartisan, and Al Gore was involved.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I would say that's exactly the kind of bipartisan leadership that he and I can bring to Washington to get things done.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
With all due respect, Joe, there's an awful lot of evidence that there hasn't been any bipartisan leadership out of this administration or Al Gore.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The fact is the Medicare problems have not been addressed.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have had eight years of problems with prescription drugs not being addressed.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Social Security problemâ€™s not been addressed.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
The educational problem has not been addressed.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Weâ€™ve had eight years of talk but no action.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
They've been in a position of responsibility in the White House.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The powerful interests, if you will, in Washington, D.C. and been unable to work with others.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Medicare is a good example.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
The Breaux Commission, a good effort at a bipartisan solution for Medicare whether you bought or didn't buy the answer that was generated, the fact is the administration set it up and pulled the plug on it because they would rather have an issue, not a solution.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
They haven't lead from a bipartisan standpoint and I think Al Gore's record isn't very good.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Dick Cheney must be one of the few people who think nothing has been accomplished in the last eight years.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Promises were made and promises were kept.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Has Al Gore -- did Al Gore make promises in 1992?	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Absolutely.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Did he deliver?	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Big time.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
If I may put it that way.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's the record.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Look at the 20 -- look at the 22 million new jobs.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Look at the 4 million new businesses.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Look at the lower interest rates, low rate of inflation, high rate of growth.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think if you asked most people in America today that famous question that Ronald Reagan asked, "Are you better off today than you were eight years ago?"	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Most people would say yes.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I'm pleased to see, Dick, from the newspapers that you're better off than you were eight years ago, too.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I can tell you, Joe, the government had absolutely nothing to do with it.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
(LAUGHTER) (APPLAUSE)	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
This question is to you.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I can see my wife and I think she's thinking, "I wish he would go out into the private sector."	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Iâ€™m going to try to help you do that, Joe.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think you've done so well there, I want to keep you there.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
(LAUGHTER)	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Dick Cheney, Joe Lieberman, you are black for this question.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Imagine yourself an African-American.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
You become the target of racial profiling either while walking or driving.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
African-American Joseph Lieberman, what would you do about it?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I would be outraged.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It is such an assault on the basic promise that America makes that the law will treat individuals as individuals regardless of their status.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
That is to say their race, their nationality, their gender, sexual orientation, etcetera, etcetera.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
And the sad fact is that racial profiling occurs in this country.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I have a few African-American friends who have gone through this horror and, you know, it makes me want to kind of hit the wall because it's such an assault on their humanity and their citizenship.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We can't tolerate it anymore.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's why Iâ€™ve supported legislation in the first instance in Congress.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Because it's the most we could get done to do hard studies to make the case of the extent to which racial profiling is occurring in our country.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
But it's also why I'm so proud that Al Gore said two things.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
First we would issue, if we're fortunate enough to be elected, an executive order prohibiting racial profiling.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And secondly the first Civil Rights Act legislation we would send to Congress would be a national ban on racial profiling.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It is just wrong.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It is unAmerican, and to think that in the 21st Century this kind of nonsense is still going on.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have to stop it.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The only way to stop it is through the law.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The law, after all, is meant to express our values and our aspirations for our society.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And our values are violently contradicted by the kind of racial profiling that I know exists.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I had a friend a while ago who works in the government, works at the White House, African-American, stopped, surrounded by police for no other cause that anyone can determine than the color of his skin.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
That can't be in America anymore.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Mr. Secretary.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Bernie, I would like to answer your question to the best of my ability, but I don't think I can understand fully what it would be like.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I try hard to put myself in that position and imagine what it would be like, but I've always been part of the majority, never part of a minority group.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
It has to be a horrible experience.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The sense of anger and frustration and rage that go with knowing that the only reason you were stopped, the only reason you were arrested, was because of the color of your skin would make me extraordinarily angry, and I'm not sure how I would respond.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think that we have to recognize that while we've made enormous progress in the U.S. in racial relations and come a great long way, we still have a very long way to go.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We still have not only the problems we're talking about here tonight in terms of the problems you mentioned in profiling, but beyond that, we still have an achievement gap in education, income differentials, differences in life span.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We still have, I think, a society that -- where we haven't done enough yet to live up to that standard that we'd all like to live up to.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think in terms of equality of opportunity, that we judge people as individuals.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
As Martin Luther King said, we ought to judge people on the content of their character instead of the color of their skin.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I would hope we can continue to make progress int that regard in the years ahead.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Senator, sexual orientation.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Should a male who loves a male and a female who loves a female have all -- all the constitutional rights enjoyed by every American citizen?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Very current and difficult question.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I've been thinking about it.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I want to explain what my thoughts have been.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Maybe I should begin this answer by going back to the beginning of the country and the Declaration of Independence which says there at the outset that all of us are created equal and that we're endowed not by any bunch of politicians or philosophers, but by our Creator, with those inalienable rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
At the beginning of our history, that promise that ideal was not realized or experienced by all Americans, but over time since then we have extended the orbit of that promise.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
In our time at the frontier of that effort is extending those kinds of rights to gay and lesbian Americans who are citizens of this country and children of the same awesome God just as much as any of the rest of us are.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's why I have been an original co-sponsor of the Employment Non-Discrimination Act which aims to prevent gay and lesbian Americans who are otherwise qualified from being discriminated against in the workplace.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And I've sponsored other pieces of legislation and taken other actions that carry out that ideal.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The question you pose is a difficult one for this reason.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
It confronts or challenges the traditional notion of marriage as being limited to a heterosexual couple, which I support.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I must say I'm thinking about this, because I have friends who are in gay and lesbian partnerships who said to me, isn't it fair.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We don't have legal rights to inheritance, visitation when one partner is ill, to health care benefits.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's why I'm thinking about it.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
My mind is open to taking some action that will address those elements of unfairness while respecting the traditional religious and civil institution of marriage.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Mr. Secretary.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
This is a tough one, Bernie.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The fact of the matter is we live in a free society, and freedom means freedom for everybody.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We donâ€™t get to choose, and we shouldn't be able to choose and say you get to live free and you don't.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
That means people should be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to enter into.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's no one's business in terms of regulating behavior in that regard.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The next step then, of course, is the question you ask of whether or not there ought to be some kind of official sanction of the relationships or if these relationships should be treated the same as a traditional marriage.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's a tougher problem.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
That's not a slam dunk.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
The fact of the matter is that it is regulated by the states.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think different states are likely to come to different conclusions, and that's appropriate.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I don't think there should necessarily be a federal policy in this area.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I try to be open minded about it as much as I can and tolerant of those relationships.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And like Joe, I'm also wrestling with the extent to which there ought to be legal sanction of those relationships.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think we ought to do everything we can to tolerate and accommodate whatever kind of relationships people want to enter into.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It occurs to me your moderator has committed a boo-boo.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I asked the racial profiling question of you and you responded and then I asked the sexual orientation question of you.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I should not have done that in terms of rotation.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Gentlemen, I apologize.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We forgive you.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Thank you.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
You're human, like we are.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Mr. Secretary.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Vice President of the United States of America, what would you bring to the job that you're opponent wouldn't?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We clearly come from different political perspectives.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Joe is a Democrat from New England, I'm a Republican from the west, from Wyoming.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And I think that weighs into it to some extent.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Clearly we're both in the positions we're in because of our personal relationships with our principals.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think the areas that I would bring are the things that Governor Bush emphasized when he picked me.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
That I have been White House Chief of Staff and ran the White House under President Ford.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Spent ten years in the House, eight of that in the leadership.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Served as Secretary of Defense, and then had significant experience in the private sector.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think that where there are differences between Joe and myself in terms of background and experience, I clearly have spent a lot of time in executive positions running large organizations both in private business as well as in government.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And that is a set of qualifications that Governor Bush found attractive when he selected me.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I'll leave it at that.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Senator?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I have great respect for Dick Cheney.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I don't agree with a lot of things he said in this campaign.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
But I have a lot of respect for him.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
He was a very distinguished Secretary of Defense, and I don't have anything negative to say about him.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I want to say with the humility that is required to respond to this statement that I think what I would bring to the office of the vice presidency is a lifetimeâ€™s experience.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Growing up in a working class family, having the opportunity to go to a great public school system, then to go on to college and then to be drawn really by President Kennedy, as well as the values of service my family gave me, into public life.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Wanting to make a difference.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I have had extraordinary opportunities, thanks again to those folks back home in Connecticut, Â as a state senator, attorney general trying to enforce the law to protect them and the environment and consumers, and to litigate on behalf of humans rights.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
And for the last 12 years as a member of the Senate of the United States focusing on national security questions, environmental protection, economic growth and values.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
But perhaps what I most bring is a friendship and shared values and shared priorities with Al Gore.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I have tremendous respect for Al Gore.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I've known him for 15 years.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
He's an outstanding person as a public official and as a private person.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
His life is built on his faith.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's devoted to his family.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
He volunteered for service in Vietnam from the beginning.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
In Congress he's been willing to take on the big interests and fight for average people.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
As vice president I think he's been the most effective vice president in the history of the United States and he has the right program to use the prosperity all the American people have earned to help particularly hard working middle-class families raise up their children to enjoy a better life.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I think that's what this is all about, why I'm so proud to be his running mate.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And because of my boo-boo I'm going to direct this question again to Secretary Cheney.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Have you noticed a contradiction or hypocritical shift by your opponent on positions and issues since he was nominated?	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We've been trying very hard to keep this on a high plane, Bernie.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Thanks, Bernie.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I do have a couple of concerns where I like the old Joe Lieberman better than I do the new Joe Lieberman.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Let's see if I can put them in those terms.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Joe established an outstanding record, I thought, in his work on this whole question of violence in the media.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And the kinds of materials that were being peddled to our children.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And many of us on the Republican side admired him for that.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
There is, I must say, the view now that having joined with Al Gore on the ticket on the other side, that the depth of conviction that we had admired before isn't quite as strong as it was, perhaps, in the past.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The temptation on the one hand to criticize the activities of the industry, as was pointed out recently in the Federal Trade Commission where they're taking clearly material meant for adults and selling it to our children, while at the same time they are participating in fundraising events with some of the people responsible for that activity has been a source of concern for many of us.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We were especially disturbed, Joe, at a recent fundraiser you attended where there was a comedian that got up and criticized George Bush's religion.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I know you're not responsible for having uttered any words of criticism of his religion.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
My concern would be, frankly, that you haven't been as -- as consistent as you had been in the past.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
That a lot of your good friends like Bill Bennett and others of us who had admired your firmness of purpose over the years have felt that you're not quite the crusader for that cause that you once were.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Bernie, you'll not be surprised to hear that I disagree.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
First let me talk about that joke about religion which I found very distasteful.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
And believe me, if anybody has devoted his life to respecting the role of religion in American life and understands that Americans from the beginning of our history have turned to God for strength and purpose, it's me.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
And any offense that was done, I apologize for.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I thought that humor was unacceptable.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Let me come to the question of Hollywood and then answer the general question.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Al Gore and I have felt for a long time, first as parents and then only second as public officials, that we cannot let America's parents stand alone in this competition that they feel they're in with Hollywood to raise their own kids and give their kids the faith and values they want to give them.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I've been a consistent crusader on that behalf.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
John McCain and I actually requested the Federal Trade Commission report that came out three or four weeks ago which proved conclusively that the entertainment industry was marketing adult-rated products to our children.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
That is just not acceptable.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
One finding was that they were actually using 10 to 12-year-olds to test screen adult-rated products.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
When that report came out, Al Gore and I said to the entertainment industry, stop it.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
If you don't stop it in six months, we'll ask the Federal Trade Commission to take action against you.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
There was no similar strong response from our opponents.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We repeated that message when we went to Los Angeles.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I repeat it today.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We won't stop until the entertainment industry stops marketing its products to our children.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Al Gore and I -- I'm out.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Maybe I can come back to it.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Please continue.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
You have about ten seconds.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Al Gore and I agree on most everything, but we disagree on some things.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
But he said to me, be yourself, thatâ€™s why I chose you, don't change a single position you have.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And I have not changed a single position since Al Gore nominated me to be his vice president.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Gentlemen, now closing statements.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
A prior coin toss has determined that you begin, Senator Lieberman.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
That went very quickly.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Thank you, Bernie, and thanks, Dick Cheney, for a very good debate.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I'm told tens of millions of people have been watching this debate tonight.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I must say, I wish one more person were here to watch and that is my dad, who died 15 years ago.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
If my dad were here, I would have the opportunity to tell him that he was right when he taught me that in America, if you have faith, work hard and play by the rules, there is nothing you cannot achieve.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
And here I am even the son of a man who started working the night shift on a bakery truck can end up being a candidate for Vice President of the United States.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
That says a lot about the character of this nation and the goodness of you, the American people.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I will tell you that Hadassah and I have traveled around this country in the last couple of months and met thousands and thousands of parents just like our moms and dads, hard working middle-class people paying their taxes, doing the jobs to keep the country running.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Trying so hard to teach their kids right from wrong and believing in their hearts that their kids can make it.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
I agree with them.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
But to make it they need a leader who will stand up and fight for them for good education, the best education in the world.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
For a sound retirement system, for prescription drug benefits for their parents.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
And for a government that is fiscally responsible, balances the budget.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Keeps interest rates down so they can afford to buy a home or send their kids to college.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
To me Al Gore is that leader and will be that kind of president.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
You know, for 224 years Americans have dreamed bigger dreams and tried bolder solutions than any other people on earth.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Now is not the time to settle for less than we can be.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
As good as things are today, Al Gore and I believe that with your help and God's help we can make the future of this good and blessed country even better.	Joseph I. Lieberman	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Thank you, God bless you and good night.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Mr. Secretary.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Bernie, I want to thank you and Joe as well.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
I've enjoyed the debate this evening.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
And thank the folks here at the Centre College in Danville, Kentucky, theyâ€™ve done a tremendous job of making this possible.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
This is a very important decision you're going to make on November 7.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We have a fundamental choice between whether or not we continue with our old ways of big government, high taxes and ever more intrusive bureaucracy, or whether we take a new course for a new era.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Governor Bush and I want to pursue the new course.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We want to reform the Social Security system to guarantee benefits will be there for our retired folks, as well as make it possible for our young people to invest a portion of their payroll tax into a retirement account that they'll control and give them greater control over their own lives.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We want to reform the Medicare system to make certain the benefits are there for our senior citizens, but also to provide prescription drug coverage for them and give them a range of choices in terms of the kind of insurance we have.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
We want to reform the education system.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We want to restore our public schools to the greatness they once represented so that every parent has the opportunity to choose what is best for their child and so that every child has an opportunity to share in the American dream.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We also want to reform the tax code.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
We think it's very important now that we have a surplus, that a portion of that surplus go back to the people who earned it.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
It's not the government's money, it's your money.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
You're entitled to it, and we would like to see to it that we provide tax relief for everybody who pays taxes.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Finally, we think it's very important to rebuild the U.S. military.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The military is in trouble.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The trends are in the wrong direction.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
The finest men and women in uniform that you'll find anyplace in the world but they deserve our support.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
They deserve the resources that we need to provide for them and they deserve good leadership.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
George Bush is the man to do this.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
I've seen him do it in Texas.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
What we need is to be able to reach across the aisle.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
Put together coalitions of Republicans and Democrats and build the kinds of coalitions that will get something done, finally, in Washington.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Premise	2000	05 Oct 2000
George Bush is good man, an honorable man, a man of great integrity.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
He will make a first rate president.	Richard(Dick) B. Cheney	Claim	2000	05 Oct 2000
Senator Cheney and Senator Lieberman, your debate now joins American political history.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
We thank you.	Bernard Shaw	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Thank you, Bernie.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
It was a great evening.	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
(Applause)	Joseph I. Lieberman	O	2000	05 Oct 2000
Good evening from the Field House at Washington University in St. Louis.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm Jim Lehrer of the NewsHour on PBS.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I welcome you to this third and final Campaign 2000 debate between the Democratic candidate for president, Vice President Al Gore, and the Republican candidate, Governor George W. Bush of Texas.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Let's welcome the candidates now.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
[Applause] Before proceeding tonight we would like to observe a moment of silence in memory of Governor Mel Carnahan of Missouri, who along with his son and his former chief of staff, died in a private plane crash last night near St. Louis.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
A reminder, as we continue now, that these debates are sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
The formats and the rules were worked out by the commission and the two campaigns.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Tonight's questions will be asked by St. Louis area voters who were identified as being uncommitted by the Gallup organization.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Earlier today each of them wrote a question on a small card like this.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Those cards were collected and then given to me this afternoon.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
My job, under the rules of the evening, was to decide the order the questions will be asked and to call on the questioners accordingly.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I also have the option of asking follow-ups which -- in order to get to more of the panel's questions.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
For the record, I plan to do sparingly and mostly for clarifications.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
The audience participants are bound by the following rule.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
They shall not ask follow-up questions or otherwise participate in the extended discussion.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And the questioner's microphone will be turned off after he or she completes asking the question.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Those are the rules.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
As in Winston-Salem last week, no single answer or response from a candidate can exceed two minutes.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
There is an audience here in the hall and they have promised to remain absolutely quiet, as did their predecessors this year in Boston, Danville, and Winston-Salem.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Before we begin, a correction from last week's debate.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I was wrong when I said Vice President Gore's campaign commercials had called Governor Bush a bumbler.	MODERATOR	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
That specific charge was made in a press statement by Gore campaign spokesman Mark Fabiani, not in a TV Guide.	MODERATOR	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm glad you clarified that.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, let's go to the first question.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Of over the 130 questions we received from this panel, we will begin with one of the 19 on health issues, and it goes to you, Mr. Vice President, and it will be asked by James Hankins.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Mr. Hankins?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
How do you feel about HMOs and insurance companies making the critical decisions that affect people's lives instead of the medical professionals, and why are the HMOs and insurance companies not held accountable for their decisions?	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Mr. Hankins, I don't feel good about it, and I think we ought to have a patient's bill of rights to take the medical decisions away from the HMOs and give them back to the doctors and nurses.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want to come back and tell you why, but if you will forgive me, I would like to say something right now at the beginning of this debate following on the moment of silence for Mel Carnahan and Randy Carnahan and Chris Sifford.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Tipper and I were good friends with Mel and Randy, and I know that all of us here want to extend our sympathy and condolences to Jean and the family and to the Sifford family.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I would just like to say that this debate in a way is a living tribute to Mel Carnahan because he loved the vigorous discussion of ideas in our democracy.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
He was a fantastic governor of Missouri.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
This state became one of the top five in the nation for health care coverage for children under his leadership.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
One of the best in advancing all kinds of benefits for children to grow up healthy and strong.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And of course, this debate also takes place at a time when the tragedy of the USS Cole is on our minds and hearts and insofar as the memorial service is tomorrow, I would like to also extend sympathy to the families of those who have died and those who are still missing, and the injured.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, Mr. Hankins, I think that the situation that you describe has gotten completely out of hand.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Doctors are giving prescriptions, they're recommending treatments, and then their recommendations are being overruled by HMOs and insurance companies.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
That is unacceptable.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I support a strong national patient's bill of rights.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It is actually a disagreement between us, a national law that is pending on this, the Dingle-Norwood bill, a bipartisan bill, is one that I support and that the governor does not.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Two minutes response, Governor Bush.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I, too, want to extend my prayers and blessings, God's blessings on the families whose lives were overturned yes -- tod -- last night.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's a tragic moment.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Actually, Mr. Vice President, it's not true.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I do support a national patient's bill of rights.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
As a matter of fact, I brought Republicans and Democrats together to do just that in the State of Texas to get a patient's bill of rights through.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It requires a different kind of leadership style to do it, though.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You see, in order to get something done on behalf of the people, you have to put partisanship aside, and that's what we did in my state.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We have one of the most advanced patient's bill of rights.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It says, for example, that a woman doesn't have to go through a gate keeper to go to her gynecologist.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It says that you can't gag a doctor, doctor can advise you.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
The HMO, the insurance company, can't gag that doctor from giving you full advice.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And this particular bill, it allows patients to choose a doctor, their own doctor if they want to.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
But we did something else that was interesting.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We're one of the first states that said you can sue an HMO for denying you proper coverage.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now there's what's called an Independent Review Organization that you have to go through first.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It says if youâ€™ve got a complaint with your insurance company, you can take your complaint to an objective body.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If the objective body rules on your behalf, the insurance company must follow those rules.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
However, if the insurance company doesn't follow the findings of the IRO, then that becomes a cause of action in a court of law.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's time for our nation to come together and do what's right for the people, and I think this is right for the people.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You know, I support a national patient's bill of rights, Mr. Vice President, and I want all people covered.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't want the law to supersede good law like we've got in Texas.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think --	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor, time is up, sir.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Jim, we have a direct disagreement on this.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Just a minute, Mr. Vice President.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want to -- the way the rules go here now, two minutes, two minutes, and then I'll decide whether we go on.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Okay.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
So what I want to make sure is we understand here is before we go on to another question in the health area, would you agree that you two agree on a national patient's bill of rights?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Absolutely not.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I referred to the Dingle-Norwood bill.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It is the bipartisan bill that is now pending in the Congress.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The HMOs and the insurance companies support the other bill that's pending, the one that the Republican majority has put forward.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
They like it because it doesn't accomplish what I think really needs to be accomplished to give the decisions back to the doctors and nurses and give you a right of appeal to somebody other than the HMO or insurance company, let you go to the nearest emergency room without having to call an HMO before you call 911, to let you see a specialist if you need to, and it has strong bipartisan support.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It is being blocked by the Republican leadership in the Congress.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Sir.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I specifically would like to know whether Governor Bush will support the Dingle-Norwood bill, which is the main one pending.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor Bush, you may answer that if you'd like.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
But also I'd like to know how you see the differences between the two of you, and we need to move on.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Well, the difference is is that I can get it done.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
That I can get something positive done on behalf of the people.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
That's what the question in this campaign is about.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's not only what's your philosophy and what's your position on issues, but can you get things done?	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I believe I can.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
What about the Dingle-Norwood bill?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
All right.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
We're going to go now to another -- all right.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Yes.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm not quite through.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Let me finish.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I talked about the principles and the issues that I think are important in a patient's bill of rights.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's kind of Washington, D.C. focus.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Well, it's in this committee or it's got this sponsor.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
If I'm the president, we're going to have emergency room care, we're going have gag orders, we're going to have direct access to OB/GYN.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
People will be able to take their HMO insurance company to court.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
That's what I've done in Texas and that's the kind of leadership style I'll bring to Washington.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
All right.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Another -- the next question also on health issue is from -- it will be asked by Marie Payne Kloepy, and it goes to Governor Bush.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Are either of you concerned with -- are either of you concerned with finding some feasible way to lower the price of pharmaceutical drugs such as education on minimizing intake, revamp of the FDA process or streamlining the drug companies' procedures instead of just finding more money to pay for them?	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Well, that's a great question.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think one of the problems we have, particularly for seniors, is there is no prescription drug coverage in Medicare.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And therefore, when they have to try to purchase drugs they do so on their own, there's no kind of collective bargaining, no power of purchasing among seniors.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
So I think step one to make sure prescription drugs is more affordable for seniors, and those are the folks who really rely upon prescription drugs a lot these days, is to reform the Medicare system, is to have prescription drugs as an integral part of Medicare once and for all.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The problem we have today is like the patient's bill of rights, particularly with health care, there's a lot of bickering in Washington, D.C.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's kind of like a political issue as opposed to a people issue.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
So what I want to do is I want to call upon Republicans and Democrats to forget all the arguing and finger pointing, and come together and take care of our seniors' prescription drug program, that says we'll pay for the poor seniors, we'll help all seniors with prescription drugs.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
In the meantime, I think it's important to have what's called Immediate Helping Hand, which is direct money to states so that seniors, poor seniors, don't have to choose between food and medicine.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
That's part of an overall overhaul.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
The purchasing powers.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I'm against price controls.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think price controls would hurt our ability to continue important research and development.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Drug therapies are replacing a lot of medicines as we used to know it.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
One of the most important things is to continue the research and development component.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And so I'm against price controls.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Expediting drugs through the FDA makes sense, of course.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Allowing the new bill that was passed in the Congress made sense to allow for, you know, drugs that were sold overseas to come back and other countries to come back into the United States.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
That makes sense.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But the best thing to do is to reform Medicare.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore, two minutes.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
All right, here we go again.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now look, if you want someone who will spend a lot of words describing a whole convoluted process and then end up supporting legislation that is supported by the big drug companies, this is your man.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you want someone who will fight for you and who will fight for the middle-class families and working men and women, who are sick and tired of having their parents and grandparents pay higher prices for prescription drugs than anybody else, then I want to fight for you.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And you asked a great question because it's not only seniors.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Listen, for 24 years I have never been afraid to take on the big drug companies.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
They do some great things.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
They discover great new cures and that's great.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
We want them to continue that.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But they are now spending more money on advertising and promotion.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
You see all these ads?	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Than they are on research and development.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And they are trying artificially extend the monopoly patent protection so they can keep charging these very high prices.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want to streamline the approval of the competing generic drugs and the new kinds of treatments that can compete with them so we bring the price down for everybody.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, briefly, let me tell you how my prescription drug plan works.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
The governor talked about Medicare.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I propose a real prescription drug benefit under Medicare for all seniors, all seniors, and here's how it works.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You pick your own doctor, and nobody can take that away from you.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The doctor chooses the prescription that you need and nobody can overrule your doctor.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
You go to your own pharmacy and then Medicare pays half the price.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you're poor, they pay all of it.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you have extraordinarily high cost, then they pay all over $4,000 out-of-pocket.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I'll bring new competition to bring the price down.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And if you pass the big drug companies' bill, nothing will happen.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
All right.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Another health question, it comes from Vickie French, and it's for you, Vice President Gore.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Vickie French, where are you?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Oh, there she is.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
We spend billions of dollars every year on taxes, or pay billions of dollars in taxes.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Would you be open to the idea of a national health care plan for everybody?	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And if not, why?	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
If so, is this something you would try to implement if you are elected into office and what would you do to implement this plan?	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think that we should move step-by-step toward universal health coverage, but I am not in favor of government doing it all.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We've spent 65 years now on the development of a hybrid system, partly private, partly public, and 85% of our people have health insurance, 15% don't.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
That adds up to 44 million people.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
That is a national outrage.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We have got to get health coverage for those who do not have it and we've got to improve the quality for those who do with a patient's bill of rights that's real and that works, the Dingle-Norwood bill, and we have got to fill in the gaps in coverage by finally bringing parity for the treatment of mental illness, because that's been left out.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We have got to deal with long-term care.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, here are the steps that I would take, first of all.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I will make a commitment to bring health care coverage of high quality that is affordable to every single child in America within four years.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And then we'll fill other gaps by covering the parents of those children when the family is poor or up to two and a half times the poverty rate.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want to give a tax credit for the purchase of individual health insurance plans.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want to give small business employers a tax credit, 25%, to encourage the providing of health insurance for the employees in small businesses.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want to give seniors who are, well, the near elderly, I don't like that term because I am just about in that category, but those 55 to 65 ought to be able to buy into Medicare for premiums that are reasonable and fair and significantly below what they have to get now.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, we have a big difference on this.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And you need to know the record here.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Under Governor Bush, Texas has sunk to be 50th out of 50 in health care -- in health insurance for their citizens.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Last week he said that they were spending 3.7 billion dollars, or 4.7 billion dollars on this.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Mr. Vice president.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Okay.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Time is up.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor Bush, two minutes.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm absolutely opposed to a national health care plan.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't want the federal government making decisions for consumers or for providers.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I remember what the administration tried to do in 1993.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
They tried to have a national health care plan.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And fortunately, it failed.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I trust people, I don't trust the federal government.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's going to be one of the themes you hear tonight.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't want the federal government making decisions on behalf of everybody.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
There is an issue with the uninsured, there sure is.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And we have uninsured people in my state.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Ours is a big state, a fast-growing state.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
We share a common border with another nation.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
But we're providing health care for our people.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
One thing about insurance, that's a Washington term.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
The question is, are people getting health care, and we have a strong safety net, and there needs to be a safety net in America.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
There needs to be more community health clinics where the poor can go get health care.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We need a program for the uninsured.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
They've been talking about it in Washington, D.C.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
The number of uninsured has now gone up for the past seven years.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
We need a $2,000 credit, rebate for people, working people that don't have insurance, they can get in the marketplace and start purchasing insurance.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We need to have -- allow small businesses to write insurance across jurisdictional lines so small business can afford health care, small restaurants can afford health care.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
So health care needs to be affordable and available.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We have to trust people to make decisions with their lives.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
In the Medicare reform I talk about it says if you are a senior, you can stay in Medicare if you like it, and that's fine, but we're going to give you other choices to choose if you want to do so, just like they do the federal employees.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The people that work in Washington, D.C. for the U.S. Congress or the United States senate.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Get a variety of choices to make in their lives.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And that's what we ought to do for all people in America.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Yes, sir, sorry.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Follow-up?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Trying to find my light.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Not right now.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Education.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
These folks submitted 18 questions on education, and the first one is that will be asked on education will go to you, Governor, and asked by Angie Pettig.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Angie Pettig, where are you?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
There she is, Governor, right there.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I've heard a lot about education and the need to hold teachers and schools accountable, and I certainly agree with that.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
But as an individual with an educational background, and also a parent, I have seen a lot of instances where the parents are unresponsive to the teachers or flat out uninvolved in their child's education.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
How do you intend to not only hold the teachers and schools accountable but also hold parents accountable?	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Well, you know, it's hard to make people love one another.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I wish I knew the law because I would darn sure sign it.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I wish I knew the law that said all of us would be good parents.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
One of the things the next president must do is to remind people that if we are going to have a responsible period in America, that each of us must love our children with all our heart and all our soul.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I happened to believe strong accountability encourages parental involvement, though.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think when you measure and post results on the Internet or in the town newspapers, most parents say wait a minute, my child's school isn't doing what I want it to do and, therefore, become involved in education.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I recognize there are some who just don't seem to care.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But there are a lot of parents who feel like everything is going well in their child's school, and all of a sudden they wake up and realize that wait a minute, standards aren't being met.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
That's why I'm so strong for accountability.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I believe we ought to measure a lot, three, four, five, six, seven, eighth grade.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We do so in my state of Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
One of the good things we've gone in Texas is we have strong accountability because you can't cure unless you know.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You can't solve a problem unless you diagnose it.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I strongly believe that one of the best things to encourage parental involvement also is to know that the classrooms will be safe and secure.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
That's why I support a teacher liability act at the federal level, that says if a teacher or principal upholds reasonable standards of classroom discipline they can't be sued.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
They can't be sued.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think parents will be more involved with education when they know their children's classrooms are safe and secure as well.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I also believe that we need to say to people that if you cannot meet standards, there has to be a consequence.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Instead of just comes the soft bigotry of low expectations, that there has to be a consequence.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We can't continue to shuffle children through school.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And one of the consequences to allow parents to have different choices.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Vice president Gore.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
We have huge difference between us on this question.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'd like to start by telling you what my vision is.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I see a day in the United States of America where all of our public schools are considered excellent, world class.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Where there are no failing schools, where the classrooms are small enough in size, number of students, so that the teacher can spend enough one-on-one time with each student.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now that means recruiting new teachers for the public schools.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It means in my plan hiring bonuses to get 100,000 new teachers in the public schools within the next four years.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It means also helping local school districts that sometimes find the parents of school age children outvoted on bond issues, to give them some help with interest-free bonding authority so that we can build new schools and modernize the classrooms.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
We need to give teachers the training and professional development that they need, including a paid time off to go visit the classroom of a master teacher to pick up some new skills.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want to give every middle-class family a $10,000 a year tax deduction for college tuition so that middle-class families will always be able to send their kids on to college.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want to work for universal free school because we know from all the studies that the youngsters learn, kids learn more in the first few years of life than any where else.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, I said there was a contrast.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor Bush is for vouchers, and in his plan he proposes to drain more money, more taxpayer money out of the public schools for private school vouchers than all of the money that he proposes in his entire budget for public schools themselves.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And only one in 20 students would be eligible for these vouchers, and they wouldn't even pay the full tuition to private school.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think that's a mistake.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't think we should give up on the private schools and leave kids trapped in failing schools.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think we -- I think we should make it the number one priority to make our schools the best in the world, all of them.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor, what is your position on that?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Yeah, I appreciate that.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think any time we end with one of these attacks, it's appropriate to respond.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Here's what I think.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
First of all, vouchers are up to states.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you want to do a voucher program in Missouri, fine.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I strongly believe in local control of schools.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm a governor of state and I don't like it when the federal government tells us what to do.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I believe in local control of schools.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But here's what I said.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I've said to the extent we spend federal money on disadvantaged children, we want the schools to show us whether or not the children are learning.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
What's unreasonable about that?	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We expect there to be standards met and we expect there to be measurement.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And if we find success we'll praise it.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But when we find children trapped in schools that will not change and will not teach, instead of saying oh, this is okay in America just to shuffle poor kids through schools, there has to be a consequence.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And the consequence is that federal portion or federal money will go to the parent, so the parent can go to a tutoring program or another public school or another private school.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You see, there has to be a consequence.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We've got a society that says hey, the status quo is fine, just move them through.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And guess who suffers.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
What's the harm on that, what's the other side on that?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Well, the program that he's proposing is not the one that he just described.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Described under your plan, Governor Bush, states would be required to pay vouchers to students to match the vouchers so that the federal government would put up.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, you're -- and the way it would happen is that under his plan, if a school was designated as failing, the kids would be trapped there for another three years and then some of them would get federal vouchers and the state would be forced to match those, that money.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Under my plan, if a school is failing, we work with the states to give them the authority and the resources to close down that school and reopen it right away with a new principal, a new faculty, a turn-around team of specialists who know what they're doing.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's based on the plan of Governor Jim Hunt in North Carolina, and it works great.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
So no vouchers under -- in a Gore administration?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
If I thought that there was no alternative, then I might feel differently.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But I have an obligation to fight to make sure there are no failing schools.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We have to turn around -- most schools are excellent, but we have to make sure that all of them are.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Andrew Kosberg has a related question on education that's right on this subject.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Mr. Kosberg, where are you?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And it's for Vice President Gore.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Mr. Vice President, in a school district in which I work and in countless others across the nation, we face crumbling school buildings, increased school violence, student apathy, overcrowding, lack of funding, lawsuits, the list goes on.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I could mention low teacher pay but I won't.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
What can you tell me and my fellow American teachers today about your plans for our immediate future?	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
What grade do you teach?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
That's a violation of your rule, Vice President Gore.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
High school.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I mentioned before that the local communities are having a harder time passing bond issues.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Traditionally, if you've been involved in a campaign like that, you know that the parents with kids in school are the ones that turn out and vote.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's ironic that there are now -- there is now a smaller percentage of the voters made up of parents with children than ever in American history because of the aging of our population, but at the same time we've got the largest generation of students in public schools ever.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
More than 90% of America's children go to public schools.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And it's the largest number ever this year and they'll break the record next year and every year for ten years running.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We've got to do something about this.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And local -- it's not enough to leave it up to the local school districts.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
They're not able to do it and our future depends upon it.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Look, we're in an information age.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Our economic future depends upon whether or not our children are going to get the kind of education that lets them go on to college.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And again, I want to make it possible for all middle-class families to send their kids to college and more Pell grants for those who are in the lower income groups also, and then I want to make sure that we have job training on top of that and lifelong learning, but it all starts with the public school teachers.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
My proposal gives $10,000 hiring bonuses for those teachers who are -- who get certified to teach in the areas where they're most needed.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, accountability, we basically agree on accountability.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
My plan requires testing of all students.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It also requires something that Governor Bush's plan doesn't.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It requires testing of all new teachers, including in the subjects that they teach.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We have to start treating teachers like the professionals that they are, and give them the respect and the kind of quality of life that will draw more people into teaching because we need a lot more teachers.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor Bush, two minutes.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
When you total up all the federal spending he wants to do, it's the largest increase in federal spending in years.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And there's just not going to be enough money.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I have been a governor of a big state, I have made education my number one priority.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
That's what governors ought to do.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
They ought to say this is the most important thing we do as a state.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The federal government puts about 6% of the money up.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
They put about, you know, 60% of the strings where you have to fill out the paperwork.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't know if you have to be a paperwork filler-outer, but most of it's because of the federal government.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
What I want to do is to send flexibility and authority to the local folks so you can choose what to do with the money.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
One size does not fit all.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I worry about federalizing education if I were you.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I believe strongly that the federal government can help, we need to fund Headstart.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We need to have accountability.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The Vice President's plan does not have annual accountability, third grade, fourth grade, fifth grade.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We need to demand on results.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I believe strongly in a teacher protection act like I mentioned.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I hear from teachers all the time about the lawsuits and the threats, respect in the classroom.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Part of it's because you can't -- you can't control the classroom.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
You can't have a consequence for somebody without fear of getting sued under federal law.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
So I'm going to ask the Congress to pass a teacher protection act.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
So I believe in flexibility, I believe in a national reading initiative for local districts to access with K through 2 diagnostic testing, curriculum that works, phonics works, by the way, it needs to be a part of our curriculum.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
There needs to be flexibility for teacher training and teacher hiring with federal money.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The federal government can be a part, but don't fall prey to all this stuff about money here and money there because education is really funded at the local level.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
94% comes from the local level.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore, is the governor right when he says that you're proposing the largest federal spending in years?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Absolutely not.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Absolutely not.	Albert A. Gore	NaN	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm so glad that I have the chance to knock that down.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Look, the problem is that under Governor Bush's plan, $1.6 trillion tax cut, mostly to the wealthy, under his own budget numbers, he proposes spending more money for a tax cut just for the wealthiest 1% than all the new money he budgets for education, health care and national defense combined.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now under my plan we'll balance the budget every year.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm not just saying this.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm not just talking.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I have helped to balance the budget for the first time in 30 years, paid down the debt.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And under my plan, in four years, as the percentage of our gross domestic product, federal spending will be the smallest that it has been in 50 years.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
One reason is, you know, the third biggest spending item in our budget is interest on the national debt?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
We get nothing for it.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
We keep the good faith and credit of the United States.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I will pay down the debt every single year until it is eliminated early in the next decade.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
That gets rid of the third biggest intrusion of the federal government in our economy.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, because the governor has all this money for a tax cut mostly to the wealthy, there is no money left over, so schools get testing and lawsuit reform and not much else.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor, the vice president says you're wrong.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Well, he's wrong.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
(LAUGHTER) Just add up all the numbers.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's three times bigger than what President Clinton proposed.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The Senate Budget Committee --	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Three times -- excuse me, three times bigger than what President Clinton proposed?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
That was in an ad, Jim, that was knocked down by the journalists who analyzed the ad and said it was misleading.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
My turn?	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Yes, sir.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Forget the journalists.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
He proposed more than Walter Mondale and Michael Dukakis combined.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
This is a big spender.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And he ought to be proud of it, it's part of his record.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
We just have a different philosophy.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Let me talk about tax relief.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you pay taxes, you ought to get tax relief.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The Vice President believes only the right people ought to get tax relief.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't think that's the role of the president to pick you're right and you're not right.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think if you're going to have tax relief, everybody ought to get it.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And therefore, wealthy people are going to get it.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But the top 1% will end up paying one-third of the taxes in America and they get one-fifth of the benefits.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And that's because we structured the plan so that six million additional American families pay no taxes.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you're a family of four making $50,000 in Missouri, you get a 50% cut in your federal income taxes.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
What I've done is set priorities and funded them.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And there's extra money.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I believe the people who pay the bills ought to get some money back.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's a difference of opinion.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
He wants to grow the government and I trust you with your own money.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I wish we could spend an hour talking about trusting people.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's just the right position to take.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Can we take the time --	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor -- yeah, hold on one second here, thought.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
The governor just reversed the thing.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
What do you say specifically to what the vice president said tonight, he said it many, many times, that your tax cut benefits the top 1% of the wealthiest Americans, and you've heard what he said.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Of course it does.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you pay taxes, you are going to get a benefit.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
People who pay taxes will get tax relief.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
All right.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Why shouldn't they?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Let me finish.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Under my plan, if you make -- the top -- the wealthy people pay 62% of the taxes today.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Afterwards they pay 64%.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
This is a fair plan.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You know why?	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Because the tax code is unfair for people at the bottom end of the economic ladder.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you're a single mother making $22,000 a year today and you're trying to raise two children, for every additional dollar you earn you pay a higher marginal rate on that dollar than someone making $200,000, and that's not right.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
So I want to do something about that.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Yeah, look.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Look, this isn't about Governor Bush, it's not about me.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It is about you.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I want to come back to something I said before.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you want somebody who believes that we were better off eight years ago than we are now and that we ought to go back to the kind of policies that we had back then, emphasizing tax cuts mainly for the wealthy, here is your man.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you want somebody who will fight for you and who will fight to have middle-class tax cuts, then I am your man.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want to be.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, I doubt anybody here makes more than $330,000 a year.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I won't ask you, but if you do, you're in the top 1%.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
It would be a violation of the rules.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
They couldn't --	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm not going to ask them.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But if everyone here in this audience was dead on in the middle of the middle-class, then the tax cuts for every single one of you all added up would be less than the tax cut his plan would give to just one member of that top wealthiest 1%.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now you judge for yourselves whether or not that's fair.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Quick, and then we're moving on.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Good.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
50 million Americans get no tax relief under his plan.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
That's not right.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You may not be one of them, you're just not one of the right people.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And secondly, we've had enough fighting.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's time to unite.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You talk about eight years?	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
In eight years they haven't gotten anything done on Medicare, on Social Security, a patient's bill of rights.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's time to get something done.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Hey, I've got to answer that, Jim.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
All right.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Medicare -- I cast the tie-breaking vote to add 26 years to the life of Medicare.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It was due to go bankrupt in 1999 and that 50 million figure again, the newspapers -- I said -- you said forget the journalists, but they are the keepers of the score card and whether or not you're using facts that aren't right.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And that fact is just not right.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Speaking of keepers of the score card, that's what I'm trying to do here Mr. Vice President and Governor Bush.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
We're gonna move on.	MODERATOR	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We're gonna have to move on.	MODERATOR	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
All right, there were 12 questions on foreign and military matters, and the first one that we're going to ask will be directed to you, Governor Bush.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And David Norwood is going to ask it.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Mr. Norwood, where are you?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
There you are.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
What would you make -- what would make you the best candidate in office during the Middle East crisis?	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I've been a leader.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I've been a person who has to set a clear vision and convince people to follow.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I've got a strategy for the Middle East.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And first let me say that our nation now needs to speak with one voice during this time, and I applaud the president for working hard to diffuse tensions.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Our nation needs to be credible and strong.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
When we say we're somebody's friend, everybody has got to believe it.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Israel is our friend and we'll stand by Israel.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We need to reach out to moderate Arab nations as well to build coalitions to keep the peace.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I also need -- the next leader needs to be patient.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We can't put the Middle East peace process on our timetable.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's got to be on the timetable of the people that we're trying to bring to the peace table.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We can't dictate the terms of peace, which means that you have to be steady.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You can't worry about polls or focus groups.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You've got to have a clear vision.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
That's what a leader does.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
A leader also understands that the United States must be strong to keep the peace.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Saddam Hussein still is a threat in the Middle East.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Our coalition against Saddam is unraveling.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Sanctions are loosened.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
The man who may be developing weapons of mass destruction, we don't know because inspectors aren't in.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
So to answer your question, it requires a clear vision, a willingness to stand by our friends, and the credibility for people both friend and foe to understand when America says something, we mean it.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I see a future when the world is at peace, with the United States of America promoting the values of democracy and human rights and freedom all around the world.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Even in Iran they have had an election that began to bring about some change.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
We stand for those values and we have to be willing to assert them.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Right now our military is the strongest in the entire history of the world.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I will -- I pledge to you I will do whatever is necessary to make sure that it stays that way.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, what can I bring to that challenge?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
When I was a young man, my father was a senator opposed to the Vietnam War.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
When I graduated from college, there were plenty of fancy ways to get out of going and being a part of that.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I went and I volunteered, and I went to Vietnam.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I didn't do the most or run the greatest risk by a long shot, but I learned what it was like to be an enlisted man in the United States Army.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
In the Congress, in the House of Representatives, I served on the House Intelligence Committee and I worked hard to learn the subject of nuclear arms control and how we can diffuse these tensions and deal with non-proliferation and deal with the problems of terrorism and these new weapons of mass destruction.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Look, we're gonna face some serious new challenges in the next four years.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I've worked on that long and hard.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
When I went to the United States Senate, I asked for an assignment to the Armed Services Committee.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And while I was there I worked on a bipartisan basis, as I did in the House, I worked with former President Reagan on the modernization of our strategic weaponry.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
In the Senate I was one of only ten Democrats, along with Senator Joe Lieberman, to support Governor Bush's dad in the Persian Gulf War Resolution.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And for the last eight years I've served on the National Security Council.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Can I say just one other thing here?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
No, sir.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
We'll get that -- I'm gonna -- the next question is to you.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Fine, I'll wait.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's a related -- it's a related question that is going to be asked by Kenneth Allen.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Mr. Allen?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think he gets a -- oh, I'm sorry, you're right, go ahead.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Mr. Allen, right there.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Mr. Vice President, today our military forces are stretched thinner and doing more than they have ever done before during peacetime.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I would like to know what you are -- I think we would all like to know what you as president would do to ensure proper resourcing for the current mission and/or more selectively choosing the time and place that our forces will be used around the world.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Thank you, sir.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Just to finish briefly, I started to say that for the last eight years I've been on the National Security Council.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Last week I broke up -- I suspended campaigning for two days, or parts of two days, to go back and participate in the meetings that charted the President's summit meeting that he just returned from earlier today.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And our team of -- our country's team over there did a great job.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's a difficult situation.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The United States has to be strong in order to make sure that we can help promote peace and security and stability.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And that means keeping our military strong.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, I said earlier that we are the strongest military, but we need to continue improving readiness and making sure that our military personnel are adequately paid and that the combination of their pay and their benefits and their retirement as veterans is comparable to the stiff competition that's coming in this strong economy from the private sector.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I have supported the largest pay raise in many a year, and I support another one now.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I also support modernization of our strategic and tactical weaponry.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The governor has proposed skipping a generation of technology.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think that would be a mistake, because I think one of the ways we've been able to be so successful in Kosovo and Bosnia and Haiti and in other places is by having the technological edge.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You know, we won that conflict in Kosovo without losing a single human life in combat, a single American life in combat.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, readiness.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
The trends before we -- before I got my current job were on the decline, the number of divisions were reduced.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I argued that we should reverse that trend and take it back up.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I'm happy to tell you that we have.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, in my budget for the next ten years I propose $100 billion for this purpose.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The governor proposes $45 billion.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I propose more than twice as much because I think it's needed.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor Bush, two minutes.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
If this were a spending contest, I would come in second.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I readily admit I'm not going to grow the size of the federal government like he is.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Your question was deployment.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
It must be in the national interests, must be in our vital interests whether we ever send troops.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The mission must be clear.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Soldiers must understand why we're going.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The force must be strong enough so that the mission can be accomplished.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And the exit strategy needs to be well-defined.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm concerned that we're overdeployed around the world.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
See, I think the mission has somewhat become fuzzy.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Should I be fortunate enough to earn your confidence, the mission of the United States military will be to be prepared and ready to fight and win war.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And therefore prevent war from happening in the first place.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
There may be some moments when we use our troops as peacekeepers, but not often.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
The Vice President mentioned my view of long-term for the military.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want to make sure the equipment for our military is the best it can possibly be, of course.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But we have an opportunity -- we have an opportunity to use our research and development capacities, the great technology of the United States, to make our military lighter, harder to find, more lethal.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We have an opportunity, really, if you think about it, if we're smart and have got a strategic vision and a leader who understands strategic planning, to make sure that we change the terms of the battlefield of the future so we can keep the peace.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
This is a peaceful nation, and I intend to keep the peace.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Spending money is one thing.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
But spending money without a strategic plan can oftentimes be wasted.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
First thing I'm going to do is ask the Secretary of Defense to develop a plan so we are making sure we're not spending our money on political projects, but on projects to make sure our soldiers are well-paid, well-housed, and have the best equipment in the world.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor Bush, another kind of gun question.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
It will be asked by Robert Lutz.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Mr. Lutz?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor Bush --	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Yes, sir.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Would just like to know what is your opposition to the Brady Handgun bill?	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm sorry, I didn't hear that.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Would like to know why you object to the Brady Handgun bill, if you do object to it.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Because in a recent TV ad it showed that the National Rifle Association says that if you are elected, that they will be working out of your office.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't think the National Rifle Association ran that ad.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But let me just tell you my position on guns in general, sir, if you don't mind.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Excuse me, I'm not sure he's finished with his question.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm sorry.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
That kind of bothers me when I see an ad like that.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want you to explain that ad to me.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Well, I don't think I ran the ad.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think somebody who doesn't want me to be president might have run that ad.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
That wasn't my ad.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think it might have been one of my opponent's ads.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Here is what I believe, sir.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I believe law-abiding citizens ought to be allowed to protect themselves and their families.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I believe that we ought to keep guns out of the hands of people that shouldn't have them.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
That's why I'm for instant background checks at gun shows, I'm for trigger locks, I think that makes sense.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Matter of fact, we distributed free trigger locks in the State of Texas so that people can get them and put them on their guns to make their guns more safe.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think we ought to raise the age at which juveniles can have a gun.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But I also believe strongly that we need to enforce laws on the books that the best way to make sure that we keep our society safe and secure is to hold people accountable for breaking the law.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If we catch somebody illegally selling a gun, there needs to be a consequence.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If we keep somebody -- you know, illegally using a gun, there needs to be a consequence.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Enforcement of law, and the federal government can help.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
There is a great program called Project Exile in Richmond, Virginia, where we focused federal taxpayers' money and federal prosecutors and went after people who were illegally using guns.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
To me that's how you make society the safest it can be.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And so, yeah, sometimes I agree with some of these groups in Washington and sometimes I don't.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm a pretty independent thinker.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
The one thing I'm for is a safe society.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I'm for enforcing laws on the books.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And that's what is going to happen should I earn your confidence.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Well, it was not one of my ads, either, Governor.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But I am familiar with the statement, and it was made by one of the top-ranking officials of that organization.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Let me tell you my position.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think that some common sense gun safety measures are certainly needed with the flood of cheap handguns that have sometimes been working their way into the hands of the wrong people.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But all of my proposals are focused on that problem, gun safety.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
None of my proposals would have any effect on hunters, or sportsmen, or people who use rifles.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
They're aimed at the real problem.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Let's make our schools safe, let's make our neighborhoods safe.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Let's have a three-day waiting period, cooling off, so we can have a background check to make sure that criminals and people who really shouldn't have guns don't get them.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But I would like to use my remaining time on this exchange, Jim, to respond to an exchange that took place just a moment ago.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Because a couple of times the governor has said that I am for a bigger government.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor, I'm not.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And let me tell you what the record shows.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
For the last eight years I have had the challenge of running the streamlining program called Reinventing Government.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And if there are any federal employees in this group, you know what that means.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
The federal government has been reduced in size by more than 300,000 people.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And it's now the smallest number that we have had since the -- the smallest in size since John Kennedy's administration.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
During the last five years, Texas's government has gone up in size.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Federal government has gone down, Texas's government has gone up.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, my plan for the future, I see a time when we have smaller, smarter government where you don't have to wait in line because you can get services online cheaper, better, faster.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We can do that.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Steve Luecker has a question, and it is for Vice President Gore.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Mr. Luecker?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
There you are.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
The family farms are disappearing and having a hard time even in the current positive economic environment.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
What steps would you or your administration take on agricultural policy developments to protect the family farms for this multi-functional service they perform?	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
We've got a bumper crop this year.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
But that's the good news.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You know what the bad news is that follows on that.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
The prices are low.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
In the last several years, the so-called Freedom To Farm Law has, in my view, been mostly a failure.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want to change many of its provisions.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, many here who are not involved in farming don't -- won't follow this, so just forgive me.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Because the 2% of the country that is involved in farming is important because the rest of us wouldn't eat except for them.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And you guys have been having a hard time, and I want to fight for you.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want to change those provisions.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want to restore a meaningful safety net.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I think that you pointed the way in your comments, because when you say there are multiple things accomplished by farmers, you're specifically including conservation and protection of the environment.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And yes, farmers are the first environmentalists.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And when they decide not to plow a field that is vulnerable to soil erosion, that may cost them a little money, but it helps the environment.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think that we ought to have an expanded conservation reserve program.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I think that the environmental benefits that come from sound management of the land ought to represent a new way for farmers to get some income that will enable them -- enable you to make sensible choices in crop rotation, and when you leave the land fallow and the rest.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, I'll go beyond that and say I think we need much more focus on rural economic development programs.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I see a time when the Internet-based activities are more available in the rural areas and where the extra source of income that farm families used to have from shoe factories is replaced by an extra source of income from working in the information economy.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
So we need to do a lot of things, but we ought to start with a better safety net.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor Bush, two minutes.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I would like our farmers feeding the world.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We're the best producers in the world, and I want -- I want the farmers feeding the world.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We need to open up markets.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Exports are down, and every time an export number goes down, it hurts the farmer.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want the next president to have fast track negotiating authority to open up markets around the world.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Weâ€™re the best and the most efficient farmers.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't want to use food as a diplomatic weapon from this point forward.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We shouldn't be using food.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It hurts the farmers.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's not the right thing to do.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm for value-added processing.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We need more work on value-added processing.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You take the raw product you produce, I presume you're a farmer, off your farm, and you convert it.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Value-added processing is important.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm for research and development.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Spending research and development money so that we can use our technological base to figure out new uses for farm products.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm for getting rid of the death tax, completely getting rid of the death tax.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
One reason family farmers are forced to sell early is because of the death tax.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
This is a bad tax.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The President shouldn't have vetoed that bill.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's a tax that taxes people twice.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It penalizes the family farmer.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
So should I be fortunate enough to earn your vote, I also understand -- I want to open up markets, but I also understand that farming is a part of our national security.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm from a big farm state.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
We're the second biggest state -- farming state in the country.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I hear from my farmers and friends all the time.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
The Vice President is right, by the way.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Every day is earth day if you own the land.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I like the policies that will encourage farmers to put -- set aside land as well for conservation purposes.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Thank you.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
A quick thing on the inheritance tax.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
There is a difference between the two of you on this.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Yeah.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm for a massive reform of the estate tax or the death tax.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And under the plan that I've proposed, 80% of all family farms will be completely exempt from the estate tax.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And the vast majority of all family businesses would be completely exempt, and all of the others would have sharply reduced.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
So 80% -- now the problem with completely eliminating it goes back to the wealthiest 1%.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The amount of money that has to be raised in taxes for middle-class families to make up for completely eliminating that on the very wealthiest, the billionaires, that would be an extra heavy burden on middle-class families.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And so let's do it for most all, but not completely eliminate it for the very top.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
What's the case for doing that, Governor?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Eliminating the death tax.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Completely.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
For everybody.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Because people shouldn't be taxed twice on their assets.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's either unfair for some or unfair for all.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Again, this is just a difference of opinion.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you're from Washington, you want to pick and choose winners.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't think that's the role of the president.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think if you're going to have tax relief, everybody benefits.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Secondly, I think your plan -- a lot of fine print in your plan, Mr. Vice President, with all due respect.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
It is -- I'm not so sure 80% of the people get the death tax.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I know this, 100% will get it if I'm the president.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I just don't think it's fair to tax people's assets twice regardless of your status.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's a fairness issue.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's an issue of principle, not politics.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
New issue.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
New issue.	MODERATOR	NaN	2000	17 Oct 2000
And the question will be asked by Joyce Cleamer of Governor Bush.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Joyce Cleamer?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
There you are.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Hi, Joyce.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Hi, Governor.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm very concerned about the morality of our country now.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
TV, movies, the music that our children are, you know, barraged with every day.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I want to know if there's anything that can be worked out with the -- Hollywood, or whoever, to help get rid of some of this bad language and whatever, you know.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's just bringing the country down.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And our children are very important to us and we're concerned about their education at school.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
We should be concerned about their education at home, also.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Thank you.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Appreciate that question.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Laura and I are proud parents of teenage girls, twin daughters, and I know what you're saying.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Government ought to stand on the side of parents.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Parents are teaching their children right from wrong, and the message oftentimes gets undermined by the popular culture.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You bet there's things that government can do.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
We can work with the entertainment industry to provide family hour.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We can have filters on Internets where public money is spent.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
There ought to be filters in public libraries and filters in public schools so if kids get on the Internet, there is not going to be pornography or violence coming in.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think we ought to have character education in our schools.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I know that doesn't directly talk about Hollywood, but it does reinforce the values you're teaching.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Greatly expand character education funding so that public schools will teach children values, values which have stood the test of time.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
There's afterschool money available.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think that afterschool money ought to be available for faith-based programs and charitable programs that exist because somebody has heard the call to love a neighbor like you would like to be loved yourself.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
That will help reinforce the values that parents teach at home as well.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Ours is a great land, and one of the reasons why is because we're free.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And so I don't support censorship.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But I do believe that we ought to talk plainly to the Hollywood moguls and people who produce this stuff and explain the consequences.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think we need to have rating systems that are clear.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I happen to like the idea of having technology for the TV, easy for parents to use so you can tune out these programs you don't want in your house.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'll remind mothers and dads the best weapon is the off/on button, and paying attention to your children, and eating dinner with them and being -- I'm sorry.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I was on my peroration.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
My turn.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I care a lot about this.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's not just movies; television, video games, music, the Internet.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Parents now feel like you have to compete with the mass culture in order to raise your kids with the values that you want them to have.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Tipper and I have four children.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And God bless them, every one of them decided on their own to come here this evening.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't want to embarrass our oldest daughter.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
She and her husband made us grandparents almost a year-and-a-half ago, and yet if she'll forgive me, when she was little, she brought a record home that had some awful lyrics in it and Tipper hit the ceiling.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And that launched a campaign to try to get the record companies to put ratings that -- warning labels for parents.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I'm so proud of what she accomplished in getting them on there.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I've been involved myself in negotiating and helping to move along the negotiations with the Internet service providers to get a parents' protection page every time 95% of the pages come up.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And a feature that allows parents to automatically check with one click what sites your kids have visited lately.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
You know, some parents are worried about those filters, that you will have to ask your kids how to put them on there.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
But if you can check up on them, that's real power.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And recently the Federal Trade Commission pointed out that some of these entertainment companies have warned parents that the material is inappropriate for children, and then they've turned around behind the backs of the parents and advertised that same adult material directly to children.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
That is an outrage.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Joe Lieberman and I gave them six months to clean up their act.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And if they don't do it, we're gonna ask for tougher authority in the hands of the FTC on the false and deceptive advertising.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'll tell you this, I want to do something about this.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Respect the First Amendment, but I will do something to help you raise your kids without that garbage.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
All right.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore, the next question is for you, and it will be asked by Steven Koosmann.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Mr. Koosmann, where are you, sir?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
You're right behind me as well.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
There we go.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Right next to the last.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
It seems that when we hear about issues of this campaign, it's usually Medicare, Social Security or prescription drugs.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
As a college professor, I hear a lot of apathy amongst young people who feel that there are no issues directed to them.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And they don't plan to vote.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
How do you address that?	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
We've got to change it.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I spend a good deal of time talking to young people, and in my standard speech out there on the stump I usually end my speech by saying, I want to ask you for something and I want to direct it especially to the young people in the audience.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I want to tell you what I tell them.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Sometimes people who are very idealistic and have great dreams, as young people do, are apt to stay at arm's length from the political process because they think their good hearts might be brittle, and if they invest their hopes and allow themselves to believe, then they're gonna be let down and disappointed.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But thank goodness we've always had enough people who have been willing in every generation to push past the fear of a broken heart and become deeply involved in forming a more perfect union.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We're America, and we believe in our future and we know we have the ability to shape our future.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, we've got to address one of the biggest threats to our democracy.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And that is the current campaign financing system.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I know they say it doesn't rank anywhere on the polls.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't believe that's a fair measure.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm telling you, I will make it the -- I will make the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform bill the very first measure that I send to the Congress as president.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor Bush opposes it.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I wish that he would consider changing his mind on that.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Because I think that the special interests have too much power, and we need to give our democracy back to the American people.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Let me tell you why.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Those issues you mentioned, Social Security, prescription drugs, the big drug companies are against the prescription drug proposal that I've made.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
The HMOs are against the patient's rights bill, the Dingle-Norwood bill that I support, and that Gov.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Bush does not support.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
The big oil companies are against the measures to get more energy independence and renewable fuel.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
They ought to have their voices heard, but they shouldn't have a big megaphone that drowns out the American people.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We need campaign finance reform and we need to shoot straight with young and old alike and tell them what the real choices are.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And we can renew and rekindle the American spirit and make our future what our founders dreamed it could be.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We can.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor Bush, two minutes.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Tell you what I hear.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
A lot of people are sick and tired of the bitterness in Washington, D.C. and therefore they don't want any part of politics.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
They look at Washington and see people pointing fingers and casting blame and saying one thing and doing another.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
There's a lot of young folks saying, you know, why do I want to be involved with this mess?	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And what I think needs to happen in order to encourage the young to become involved is to shoot straight, is to set aside the partisan differences, and set an agenda that will make sense.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Medicare, I know you talked about it, but Medicare is relevant for all of us, young and old alike.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
We better get it right now.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Tax reform is relevant for old and young alike.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't think it's the issues that turn kids off.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think it's the tone.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think it's the attitude.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think it's a cynicism in Washington and it doesn't have to be that way.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Before I decided to run, I had to resolve two issues in my mind.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
One, could our family endure all this business.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I came to the conclusion that our love was strong enough to be able to do it.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
The other was could an administration change the tone in Washington, D.C. And I believe the answer is yes, otherwise I wouldn't be asking for your vote.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
That's what happened in Texas.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We worked together.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
There is a man here in this audience named Hugo Berlanga.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
He is the chairman of the health committee.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
He came here for a reason, to tout our record on health in Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
He's a Democrat.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I didn't care whether he was a Republican or Democrat.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
What I cared about is could we work together.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
That's what Washington, D.C. needs.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And finally, sir, to answer your question, you need somebody in office who will tell the truth.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
That's the best way to get people back in the system.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor Bush, Norma Curby has the next question.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And it's for you.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Norma Curby, where are you?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Hi, Norma.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Hi.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
How will your administration address diversity, inclusiveness, and what role will affirmative action play in your overall plan?	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I've had a record of bringing people from all walks of life into my administration, and my administration is better off for it in Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm going to find people that want to serve their country.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But I want a diverse administration, I think it's important.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I've worked hard in the State of Texas to make sure our institutions reflect the state with good, smart policy.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Policy that rejects quotas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't like quotas.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Quotas tend to pit one group of people against another.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Quotas are bad for America.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's not the way America is all about.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But policies that give people a helping hand so they can help themselves.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
For example, in our State of Texas I worked with the legislature, both Republicans and Democrats, to pass a law that said if you come in the top 10% of your high school class, you're automatically admitted to one of our higher institutions of learning, college.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And as a result, our universities are now more diverse.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It was a smart thing to do.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
What I called it, I labeled it affirmative access.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think the contracting business in government can help.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Not with quotas, but help meet a goal of ownership of small businesses, for example.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
The contracts need to be smaller, the agencies need to be -- need to recruit and to work hard to find people to bid on the state contracts.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think we can do that in a way that represents what America is all about, which is equal opportunity and an opportunity for people to realize their potential.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
So to answer your question, I support, I guess the way to put it, is affirmative access.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'll have an administration that will make you proud.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Thank you.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I believe in this goal and effort with all my heart.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I believe that our future as a nation depends upon whether or not we can break down these barriers that have been used to pit group against group, and bring our people together.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
How do you do it?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Well, you establish respect for differences.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
You don't ignore differences.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's all too easy for somebody in the majority in the population to say oh, we're just all the same, without an understanding of the different life experience that you've had, that others have had.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Once you have that understanding and mutual respect, then we can transcend the differences and embrace the highest common denominator of the American spirit.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't know what affirmative access means.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I do know what affirmative action means.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I know the governor is against it, and I know that I'm for it.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I know what a hate crime statute pending at the national level is all about in the aftermath of James Byrd's death.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm for that proposed law, the governor is against it.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I know what it means to have a commitment to diversity.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I am part of an administration that has the finest record on diversity.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And incidentally, an excellent -- I mean, I think our success over the last eight years has not been in spite of diversity but because of it.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Because we're able to draw on the wisdom and experience from different parts of the society that hadn't been tapped in the same way before.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And incidentally, Mel Carnahan in Missouri had the finest record on diversity in any governor in the entire history of the State of Missouri.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I want to honor that among his other achievements here.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, I just believe that what we have to do is enforce the civil rights laws.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm against quotas.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
This is, with all due respect, Governor, that's a red herring.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Affirmative action isn't quotas.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm against quotas, they're illegal.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
They're against the American way.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Affirmative action means that you take extra steps to acknowledge the history of discrimination and injustice and prejudice and bring all people into the American dream because it helps everybody, not just those who are directly benefitting.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor, what is your -- are you opposed to affirmative action?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
If affirmative action means quotas, I'm against it.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If affirmative action means what I just described what I'm for, then I'm for it.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
You heard what I was for.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
The vice president keeps saying I'm against things.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
You heard what I was for, and that's what I support.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
What about -- Mr. Vice President, you heard what he said.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
He said if affirmative action means quotas, he's against it.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Affirmative action doesn't mean quotas.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Are you for it without quotas?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I may not be for your version, Mr. Vice President, but I'm for what I just described to the lady.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Are you for what the Supreme Court says is a constitutional way of having affirmative action?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Let's go on to another --	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think that speaks for itself.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
No, it doesn't speak for itself, Mr. Vice President, it speaks for the fact that there are certain rules in this that we all agree to, but evidently rules don't mean anything.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The question is for you, Vice President Gore, and Lisa Kee will ask it.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Lisa Kee, where are you?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
There we go, sorry.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
How will your tax proposals affect me as a middle-class, 34-year-old single person with no dependents?	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you make less than $60,000 a year and you decide to invest $1,000 in a savings account, you'll get a tax credit, which means in essence that the federal government will match your $1,000 with another $1,000.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you make less than $30,000 a year and you put $500 in a savings account, the federal government will match it with $1500.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you make more than $60,000 and up to 100 you'll still get a match, but not as generous.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You'll get an access to life-long learning and education, help with tuition if you want to get a new skill or training.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you want to purchase health insurance, you will get help with that.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you want to participate in some of the dynamic changes that are going on in our country, you will get specific help in doing that.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you are part of the -- of the bottom 20% or so of wage earners, then you will get an expanded earned income tax credit.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, the tax relief that I propose is directed specifically at middle-income individuals and families.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And if you have a -- if you have an elderly parent or grandparent who needs long-term care, then you will get help with that.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
$3,000 tax credit to help your expenses in taking care of a loved one who needs long-term care.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor Bush?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Let me just say the first -- this business about the entitlement he tried to describe about savings, you know, matching savings here and matching savings there, fully-funded it's gonna cost a whole lot of money, a lot more than we have.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You're going to get a tax relief in my plan.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You're not going to be targeted in or targeted out.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Everybody that pays taxes is going to get tax relief.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you take care of an elderly in your home, you're going to get the personal exemption increased.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think also what you need to think about is not the immediate, but what about Medicare?	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
You get a plan that will include prescription drugs, a plan that will give you options.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now, I hope people understand that Medicare today is important, but it doesn't keep up with the new medicines.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you're a Medicare person, on Medicare, you don't get the new procedures.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
You're stuck in a time warp in many ways.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
So it will be a modern Medicare system that trusts you to make a variety of options for you.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You're going to live in a peaceful world.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It will be a world of peace because we're going to have a clear sight of foreign policy based upon a strong military and a mission that stands by our friends.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
A mission that doesn't try to be all things to all people.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
A judicious use of the military which will help keep the peace.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You'll live in a world, hopefully, that is more educated so it's less likely you'll be harmed in your neighborhood.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
See, an educated child is one much more likely to be hopeful and optimistic.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You'll be in a world in which fits into my philosophy.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The harder you work, the more you can keep.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's the American way.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Government shouldn't be a heavy hand.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's what the federal government does to you.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It should be a helping hand, and tax relief and the proposals I just described should be a good helping hand.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor, next question is for you, and Leo Anderson will ask it.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Mr. Anderson.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
You want a mike?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
In one of the last debates held, the subject of capital punishment came up, and in your response to the question, you seemed overly joyed and as a matter of fact proud that Texas led the nation in the execution of prisoners.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Sir, did I misread your response and are you really, really proud of the fact that Texas is number one in executions?	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
No, I'm not proud of that.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The death penalty is a very serious business, Leo.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's an issue that good people obviously disagree on.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I take my job seriously.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And if you think I was proud of it, I think you misread me, I do.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I was sworn to uphold the laws of my state.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
During the course of the campaign in 1994 I was asked do you support the death penalty.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I said I did if administered fairly and justly.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Because I believe it saves lives, Leo, I do.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
If it's administered swiftly, justly and fairly, it saves lives.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
One of the things that happens when you're a governor, at least oftentimes you have to make tough decisions.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
You can't let public persuasion sway you, because the job is to enforce the law.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And that's what I did, sir.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
There have been some tough cases come across my desk.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Some of the hardest moments since I've been the governor of the State of Texas is to deal with those cases.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
But my job is to ask two questions, sir.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Is the person guilty of the crime?	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And did the person have full access to the courts of law?	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I can tell you looking at you right now, in all cases those answers were affirmative.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm not proud of any record.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm proud of the fact that violent crime is down in the State of Texas.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm proud of the fact that we hold people accountable.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But I'm not proud of any record, sir, I'm not.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I support the death penalty.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think that it has to be administered not only fairly with attention to things like DNA evidence, which I think should be used in all capital cases, but also with very careful attention.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If, for example, somebody confesses to the crime and somebody is waiting on death row, there has to be alertness to say wait a minute, have we got the wrong guy?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
If the wrong guy is put to death, then that's a double tragedy.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Not only has an innocent person been executed, but the real perpetrator of the crime has not been held accountable for it.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And in some cases may be still at large.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
But I support the death penalty in the most heinous cases.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Do both of you believe the death penalty actually deters crime?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I do.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's the only reason to be for it.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Let me finish, sir.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't think you should support the death penalty to seek revenge.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't think that's right.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think the reason to support the death penalty is because it saves other people's lives.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think it is a deterrent.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I know that's a controversial view, but I do believe it's a deterrent.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Next question is for you, Vice President Gore, and Thomas Fischer will ask it.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Mr. Fischer?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Yes.	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
My 6th grade class at St. Claire's School wanted to ask of all these promises you guys are making and all the pledges, will you keep them when you're in office?	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
(LAUGHTER)	MEMBER_OF_AUDIENCE	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Yes.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
(LAUGHTER) I am a person who keeps promises.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And, you know, we've heard a lot about -- from the governor about not much being done in the last eight years, as if the promises that I made eight years ago have not been kept.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think the record shows otherwise.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We have gone from the biggest deficits eight years ago to the biggest surpluses in history today.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Instead of high unemployment, we now have the lowest African-American unemployment, the lowest Latino unemployment ever measured.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
22 million new jobs, very low unemployment nationally.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Instead of ballooning the debt and multiplying it four times over, we have seen the debt actually begun to be paid down.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Here are some promises that I'll make to you now.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I will balance the budget every year.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I will pay down the debt every year.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I will give middle-class Americans tax cuts, meaningful ones.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I will invest in education, health care, protecting the environment and retirement security.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We both made promises in this campaign.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I promise you I will keep mine.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Let me tell you about one of the governor's.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
He has promised a trillion dollars out of the Social Security Trust Fund for young working adults to invest and save on their own.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
But he's promised seniors that their Social Security benefits will not be cut, and he's promised the same trillion dollars to them.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
So this is a show me state.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Reminds me of the line from the movie, "Show me the money."	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Which one of those promises will you keep and which will you break, Governor?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor Bush.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Thank you for your question.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
(LAUGHTER) I -- there's an old high school debating trick, which is to answer something and then attack your opponent at the end.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
You asked about promises.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
You were promised that Medicare would be reformed, and that Social Security would be reformed.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
You were promised a middle-class tax cut in 1992.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It didn't happen.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
There's too much bitterness in Washington.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
There's too much wrangling.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's time to have a fresh start.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
One of the reasons I was successful as the governor of Texas is because I didn't try to be all things to all people.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
When I campaigned in a race, a lot of folks didn't think I could win including, by the way, my mother.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
(LAUGHTER) I said I'd do four things; tort reform, education reform, welfare reform and juvenile justice reform.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I won.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I had the will of the people in my state behind me.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And then I brought folks together to get it done.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And that's what we need, I think, in this election.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
To me that's what it's all about.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm sure your 6th grade kids are listening and saying, these guys will say anything to get elected.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
But there's a record, and that's what I hope people look at.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
One of my promises is going to be Social Security reform, and you bet, we need to take a trillion dollars out of that $2.4 trillion surplus.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now remember, Social Security revenue exceeds expenses up until 2015.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
People are going to get paid.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But if you're a younger worker, if you're younger, you better hope this country thinks differently, otherwise you're gonna be faced with huge payroll taxes or reduced benefits.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And you bet we're gonna take a trillion dollars of your own money and let you invest it under safe guidelines so you get a better rate of return on the money than the paltry 2% that the federal government gets for you today.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
That's one of my promises.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
But it's gonna require people to bring both Republicans and Democrats together to get it done.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
That's what it requires.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
There was a chance to get this done.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It was a bipartisan approach, but it's been rejected.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm going to bring them together.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Both of you -- both of you on this subject.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
There are other questions that also go to this skepticism, not necessarily about you, but all people in politics.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Why is that?	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Well, first of all, Jim, I would like to respond to what the governor just said.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Because the trillion dollars that has been promised to young people has also been promised to older people.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
And you cannot keep both promises.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you're in your mid-40's under the governor's plan, Social Security will be bankrupt by the time you retire, if he takes it out of the Social Security Trust Fund.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Under my plan it will be -- its solvency will be extended until you're 100.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now that is the difference.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And the governor may not want to answer that question, he may want to call it a high school debating trick, but let me tell you this.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
This election is not about debating tricks, it is about your future.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The reason Social Security -- he says it gets 2%.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
You know, it's not a bank account that just pays back money that's invested.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It is also used to give your mothers and fathers the Social Security checks that they live on.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you take a trillion dollars out of that Social Security Trust Fund, how are the checks going to be -- how are you going to keep faith with the seniors?	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now let me come directly to your question.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
We have to go to the closing statements and --	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Well, can I answer that?	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
One reason people are skeptical is because people don't answer the questions they've been asked.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
The trillion dollars comes out of the surplus so that you can invest some of your own money.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
There's just a difference of opinion.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want workers to have their own assets.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's who you trust, government or people.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
All right.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Now we're going to go to closing statements.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore, you're first.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Thank you very much, Jim, and I'll begin by answering your questions -- your last question.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I believe that a lot of people are skeptical about people in politics today because we have seen a time of great challenge for our country.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Since the assassination of our best leaders in the '60's, since the Vietnam War, since Watergate, and because we need campaign finance reform.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I would like to tell you something about me.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I keep my word.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I have kept the faith.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I've kept the faith with my country.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I volunteered for the Army.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I served in Vietnam.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I kept the faith with my family.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Tipper and I have been married for 30 years.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
We have devoted ourselves to our children and now our nearly one-and-a-half-year-old grandson.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I have kept the faith with our country.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Nine times I have raised my hand to take an oath to the Constitution, and I have never violated that oath.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
I have not spent the last quarter century in pursuit of personal wealth.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I have spent the last quarter century fighting for middle-class working men and women in the United States of America.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I believe very deeply that you have to be willing to stand up and fight no matter what powerful forces might be on the other side.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
If you want somebody who is willing to fight for you, I am asking for your support and your vote and, yes, your confidence and your willingness to believe that we can do the right thing in America, and be the better for it.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We've made some progress during the last eight years.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
We have seen the strongest economy in the history of the United States.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Lower crime rates for eight years in a row.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
Highest private home ownership ever, but I'll make you one promise here.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
You ain't seen nothing yet.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And I will keep that promise.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Governor Bush, two minutes.	MODERATOR	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Well, Jim, I want to thank you and thank the folks here at Washington University and the vice president.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Appreciate the chance to have a good, honest dialogue about our differences of opinion.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think after three debates the good people of this country understand there is a difference of opinion.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
There is a difference between big federal government and somebody who is coming from outside of Washington who will trust individuals.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I've got an agenda that I want to get done for the country.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's an agenda that says we're going to reform Medicare to make sure seniors have got prescription drugs and to give seniors different options from which they can choose.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
It's an agenda that says we're listen to the young voices in Social Security and say we're going to think differently about making sure we have a system, but also fulfill the promise to the seniors in America.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	17 Oct 2000
A promise made will be a promise kept should I be fortunate enough to become your president.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want to have the military keeping the peace.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I want to make sure the public school system in America keeps its promise so not one child is left behind.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
After setting priorities, I want to give some of your money back.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't think the surplus is the government's money.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I think it's the people's money.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I don't think the surplus exists because of the ingenuity and hard work of the federal government, I think it exists because of the ingenuity and hard work of the American people.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
And you ought to have some of this surplus so you can save and dream and build.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
I look forward to the final weeks of this campaign.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
I'm asking for your vote.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
For those of you for me, thanks for your help.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
For those of you for my opponent, please only vote once.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
(LAUGHTER) But for those who have not made up their mind, I would like to conclude by this promise.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Should I be fortunate enough to become your president, when I put my hand on the Bible, I will swear to not only uphold the laws of the land, but I will also swear to uphold the honor and the dignity of the office to which I have been elected, so help me God.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	17 Oct 2000
Thank you very much.	George W. Bush	O	2000	17 Oct 2000
Good evening from the Clark Athletic Center at the University of Massachusetts in Boston.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm Jim Lehrer of the NewsHour on PBS, and I welcome you to the first of three 90-minute debates between the Democratic candidate for president, Vice President Al Gore and the Republican candidate, Governor George W. Bush of Texas.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The debates are sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates and they will be conducted within formats and rules agreed to between the commission and the two campaigns.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
We'll have the candidates at podiums.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
No answer to a question can exceed two minutes.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Rebuttal is limited to one minute.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
But as moderator I have the option to follow up and to extend any particular give and take another three-and-a-half minutes.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Even then, no single answer can exceed two minutes.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The candidates under their rules may not question each other directly.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
There will be no opening statements, but each candidate may have up to two minutes for a closing statement.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The questions and the subjects were chosen by me alone.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I have told no one from the two campaigns, or the Commission, or anyone else involved what they are.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
There is a small audience in the hall tonight.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
They are not here to participate, only to listen.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I have asked, and they have agreed, to remain silent for the next 90 minutes.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Except for right now, when they will applaud as we welcome the two candidates, Governor Bush and Vice President Gore.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
(Applause)	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
And now the first question as determined by a flip of a coin, it goes to Vice President Gore.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore, you have questioned whether Governor Bush has the experience to be President of the United States.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
What exactly do you mean?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Well, Jim, first of all, I would like to thank the sponsors of this debate and the people of Boston for hosting the debate.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I would like to thank Governor Bush for participating, and I would like to say I'm happy to be here with Tipper and our family.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I have actually not questioned Governor Bush's experience.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I have questioned his proposals.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
And here is why.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think this is a very important moment for our country.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We have achieved extraordinary prosperity.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And in this election, America has to make an important choice.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Will we use our prosperity to enrich not just the few, but all of our families?	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I believe we have to make the right and responsible choices.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
If I'm entrusted with the presidency, here are the choices that I will make.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I will balance the budget every year.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I will pay down the national debt.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I will put Medicare and Social Security in a lockbox and protect them.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And I will cut taxes for middle-class families.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I believe it's important to resist the temptation to squander our surplus.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
If we make the right choices, we can have a prosperity that endures and enriches all of our people.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
If I'm entrusted with the presidency, I will help parents and strengthen families because, you know, if we have prosperity that grows and grows, we still won't be successful unless we strengthen families by, for example, ensuring that children can always go to schools that are safe.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
By giving parents the tools to protect their children against cultural pollution.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I will make sure that we invest in our country and our families.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And I mean investing in education, health care, the environment, and middle-class tax cuts and retirement security.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
That is my agenda and that is why I think that it's not just a question of experience.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Governor Bush, one minute rebuttal.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Well, we do come from different places.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I come from West Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The governor is the chief executive officer.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We know how to set agendas.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think you'll find the difference reflected in our budgets.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to take one-half of the surplus and dedicate it to Social Security.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
One-quarter of the surplus for important projects, and I want to send one-quarter of the surplus back to the people who pay the bills.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want everybody who pays taxes to have their tax rates cut.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And that stands in contrast to my worthy opponent's plan, which will increase the size of government dramatically.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
His plan is three times larger than President Clinton's proposed plan eight years ago.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It is a plan that will have 200 new programs -- expanded programs and creates 20,000 new bureaucrats.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It it empowers Washington.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Tonight youâ€™re going to hear that my passion and my vision is to empower Americans to be able to make decisions for themselves in their own lives.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
So I take it by your answer, then, Mr. Vice President, that in an interview recently with the "New York Times" when you said that you questioned whether or not Governor Bush has experience enough to be president, you were talking about strictly policy differences.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Yes, Jim.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I said that his tax cut plan, for example, raises the question of whether it's the right choice for the country.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And let me give you an example of what I mean.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Under Governor Bush's tax cut proposal, he would spend more money on tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% than all of the new spending that he proposes for education, health care, prescription drugs and national defense all combined.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, I think those are the wrong priorities.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, under my proposal, for every dollar that I propose in spending for things like education and health care, I will put another dollar into middle class tax cuts.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And for every dollar that I spend in those two categories, I'll put $2 toward paying down the national debt.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think it's very important to keep the debt going down and completely eliminate it.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And I also think it's very important to go to the next stage of welfare reform.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Our country has cut the welfare rolls in half.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I fought hard from my days in the Senate and as vice president to cut the welfare rolls and we've moved millions of people in America into good jobs.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
But it's now time for the next stage of welfare reform, and include fathers and not only mothers.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We're going to get a lot of those.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me just say that obviously tonight we're going to hear some phony numbers about what I think and what we ought to do.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
People need to know that over the next ten years it is going to be $25 trillion of revenue that comes into our treasurey and we anticipate spending $21 trillion.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And my plan say why don't we pass 1.3 trillion of that back to the people who pay the bills?	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Surely we can afford 5% of the $25 trillion that are coming into the treasury to the hard working people that pay the bills.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
There is a difference of opinion.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
My opponent thinks the government -- the surplus is the government's money.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's not what I think.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think it's the hard-working people of America's money and I want to share some of that money with you so you have more money to build and save and dream for your families.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's a difference of opinion.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's a difference between government making decisions for you and you getting more of your money to make decisions for yourself.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me just follow up one quick question.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
When you hear Vice President Gore question your experience, do you read it the same way, that he's talking about policy differences only?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Yes.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I take him for his word.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Look, I fully recognize I'm not of Washington.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm from Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And he's got a lot of experience, but so do I.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And I've been the chief executive officer of the second biggest state in the union.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I have a proud record of working with both Republicans and Democrats, which is what our nation needs.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Somebody that can come to Washington and say let's forget all the finger pointing and get positive things done on Medicare, prescription drugs, Social Security, and so I take him for his word.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Jim, if I could just respond.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I know that.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The governor used the phrase phony numbers, but if you look at the plan and add the numbers up, these numbers are correct.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
He spends more money for tax cuts for the wealthiest 1% than all of his new spending proposals for health care, prescription drugs, education and national defense all combined.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I agree that the surplus is the American people's money, it's your money.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's why I don't think we should give nearly half of it to the wealthiest 1%, because the other 99% have had an awful lot to do with building the surplus in our prosperity.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Three-and-a-half minutes is up.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
New question.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I hope itâ€™s about wealthy people.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Governor Bush, you have a question.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
This is a companion question to the question I asked Vice President Gore.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
You have questioned whether Vice President Gore has demonstrated the leadership qualities necessary to be President of the United States.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
What do you mean by that?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Actually what I've said, Jim.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I've said that eight years ago they campaigned on prescription drugs for seniors.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And four years ago they campaigned on getting prescription drugs for seniors.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And now they're campaigning on getting prescription drugs for seniors.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It seems like they can't get it done.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, they may blame other folks, but it's time to get somebody in Washington who is going to work with both Republicans and Democrats to get some positive things done when it comes to our seniors.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And so what I've said is that there's been some missed opportunities.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
They've had a chance.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
They've had a chance to form consensus.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I've got a plan on Medicare, for example, that's a two-stage plan that says we'll have immediate help for seniors and what I call immediate Helping Hand, a $48 billion program.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
But I also want to say to seniors, if you're happy with Medicare the way it is, fine, you can stay in the program.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
But we're going to give you additional choices like they give federal employees in the federal employee health plan.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
They have a variety of choices to choose, so should seniors.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And my point has been, as opposed to politicizing an issue like Medicare, in other words, holding it up as an issue, hoping somebody bites it and try to clobber them over the head with it for political purposes, this year, in the year 2000, it's time to get it done once and for all.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's what I've been critical about the administration for.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Same with Social Security.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think there was a good opportunity to bring Republicans and Democrats together to reform the Social Security system so seniors will never go without.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Those on Social Security today will have their promise made, but also to give younger workers the option at their choice of being able to manage some of their own money in the private sector to make sure there's a Social Security system around tomorrow.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
There are a lot of young workers at our rallies we go to that when they hear I'll trust them at their option to be able to manage, under certain guidelines, some of their own money to get a better rate of return so that they'll have a retirement plan in the future, they begin to nod their heads and they want a different attitude in Washington.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
One minute rebuttal.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Well, Jim, under my plan all seniors will get prescription drugs under Medicare.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The governor has described Medicare as a government HMO.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's not, and let me explain the difference.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Under the Medicare prescription drug proposal I'm making, here is how it works, you go to your own doctor.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Your doctor chooses your prescription.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
No HMO or insurance company can take those choices away from you.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Then you go to your own pharmacy.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
You fill the prescription and Medicare pays half the cost.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
If you're in a very poor family or if you have very high costs, Medicare will pay all the costs, a $25 premium, and much better benefits than you can possibly find in the private sector.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now here is the contrast.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
95% of all seniors would get no help whatsoever under my opponent's plan for the first four or five years.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, one thing I don't understand, Jim, is why is it that the wealthiest 1% get their tax cuts the first year, but 95% of seniors have to wait four to five years before they get a single penny?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I guess my answer to that is the man is running on Medi-scare.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Trying to frighten people in the voting booth.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's just not the way I think and it's not my intentions and not my plan.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want all seniors to have prescription drugs in Medicare.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We need to reform Medicare.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Thereâ€™s been opportunity to do so but this administration has failed to do it.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And so seniors will have not only a Medicare plan where the poor seniors will have prescription drugs paid for, but there will be a variety of options.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The current system today has meant a lot for a lot of seniors, and I really appreciate the intentions of the current system as I mentioned.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
If you're happy with the system you can stay in it.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
But there are a lot of procedures that haven't kept up in Medicare with the current times.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
No prescription drug benefits, no drug therapy, no preventative medicines, no vision care.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We need to have a modern system to help seniors, and the idea of supporting a federally controlled 132,000-page document bureaucracy as being a compassionate way for seniors, and the only compassionate source of care for seniors is not my vision.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I believe we ought to give seniors more options.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I believe we ought to make the system work better.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I know this.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I know it will require a different kind of leader to go to Washington to say to both Republicans and Democrats, let's come together.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
You've had your chance, Vice President, you've been there for eight years and nothing has been done.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
My point is, is that my plan not only trusts seniors with options, my plan sets aside $3.4 trillion for Medicare over the next ten years.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
My plan also says it requires a new approach in Washington, D.C.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's going to require somebody who can work across the partisan divide.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
If I could respond to that.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Under my plan I will put Medicare in an iron clad lockbox and prevent the money from being used for anything other than Medicare.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The governor has declined to endorse that idea even though the Republican as well as Democratic leaders in Congress have endorsed it.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I would be interested to see if he would say this evening he'll put Medicare in a lockbox.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I donâ€™t think he will because under his plan if you work out the numbers Â $100 billion comes out of Medicare just for the wealthiest 1% in the tax cut.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now here is the difference.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Some people who say the word reform actually mean cuts.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Under the governor's plan, if you kept the same fee for service that you have now under Medicare, your premiums would go up by between 18% and 47%, and that is the study of the Congressional plan that he's modeled his proposal on by the Medicare actuaries.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me give you one quick example.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
There is a man here tonight named George McKinney from Milwaukee.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
He's 70 years old, has high blood pressure, his wife has heart trouble.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
They have an income of $25,000 a year.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
They can't pay for their prescription drugs and so they're some of the ones that go to Canada regularly in order to get their prescription drugs.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Under my plan, half of their costs would be paid right away.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Under Governor Bush's plan, they would get not one penny for four to five years and then they would be forced to go into an HMO or to an insurance company and ask them for coverage, but there would be no limit on the premiums or the deductibles or any of the terms and conditions.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I cannot let this go by, the old-style Washington politics, of we're going to scare you in the voting booth.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Under my plan the man gets immediate help with prescription drugs.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's called Immediate Helping Hand.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Instead of squabbling and finger pointing, he gets immediate help.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me say something.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Your â€“[cross talk]	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Can I make another point?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
They get $25,000 a year income, that makes them ineligible.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Look, this is a man who has great numbers.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
He talks about numbers.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm beginning to think not only did he invent the Internet, but he invented the calculator.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's fuzzy math.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's a scaring -- he's trying to scare people in the voting booth.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Under my tax plan that he continues to criticize, I set one-third.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The federal government should take no more than a third of anybody's check.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
But I also dropped the bottom rate from 15% to 10%.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Because by far the vast majority of the help goes to people at the bottom end of the economic ladder.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
If you're a family of four in Massachusetts, making $50,000, you get a 50% cut in the federal income taxes you pay.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's from $4000 to about $2000.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, the difference in our plans is I want that $2,000 to go to you, and the vice president would like to be spending the $2,000 on your behalf.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
One quick thing, gentlemen.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
These are your rules.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm doing my best.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
We're way over the three and a half minutes.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I have no problems with it.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Do you want to have a quick response?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
We're almost to five minutes on this.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's just clear you can go to the website and look.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
If you make more than $25,000 a year you don't get a penny of help under the Bush prescription drug proposal for at least four to five years, and then you're pushed into a Medicare -- into an HMO or insurance company plan, and there's no limit on the premiums or the deductibles or any of the conditions.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And the insurance companies say it won't work and they won't offer these plans.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me ask you both this and we'll move on on the subject.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
As a practical matter, both of you want to bring prescription drugs to seniors, correct?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Correct.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Correct.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The difference is I want to bring it to 100% and he wants to bring it to 5%.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's totally false for him to stand up here and say that.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me make sure the seniors hear me loud and clear.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
They have had their chance to get something done.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm going to work with Democrats and Republicans to reform the system.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
All seniors will be covered, all poor seniors will have their prescription drugs paid for, and in the meantime, we'll have a plan to help poor seniors and in the meantime it could be one year or two years.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me call your attention to the key word there.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
He said all poor seniors.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Wait a minute.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
All seniors are covered under prescription drugs in my plan.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
In the first year?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
If we can get it done in the first year, you bet.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Yours is phased in in eight years.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's a two-phase plan.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
For the first four years -- it takes a year to pass it and for the first four years only the poor are covered.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Middle class seniors like George McKinney and his wife are not covered for four to five years.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I have an idea.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
If you have any more to say about this, you can say it in your closing statements and we'll move on, okay?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
New question.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
How would you contrast your approach to preventing future oil price and supply problems like we have now to the approach of Governor Bush?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Excellent question.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
And here is the simple difference.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
My plan has not only a short-term component, but also a long-term component.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And it focuses not only on increasing the supply, which I think we have to do, but also on working on the consumption side.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, in the short-term we have to free ourselves from the domination of the big oil companies that have the ability to manipulate the price from OPEC when they want to raise the price.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And in the long-term we have to give new incentives for the development of domestic resources like deep gas in the western Gulf, like stripper wells for oil, but also renewable sources of energy.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And domestic sources that are cleaner and better.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And I'm proposing a plan that will give tax credits and tax incentives for the rapid development of new kinds of cars and trucks and buses and factories and boilers and furnaces that don't have as much pollution, that don't burn as much energy, and that help us get out on the cutting edge of the new technologies that will create millions of new jobs.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Because, when we sell these new products here, we'll then be able to sell them overseas.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
There is a ravenous demand for them overseas.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, another big difference is Governor Bush is proposing to open up some of our most precious environmental treasures, like the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for the big oil companies to go in and start producing oil there.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think that is the wrong choice.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It would only give us a few months' worth of oil and the oil wouldn't start flowing for many years into the future.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I don't think it's a fair price to pay to destroy precious parts of America's environment.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We have to bet on the future and move beyond the current technologies to have a whole new generation of more efficient, cleaner, energy technology.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's an issue I know a lot about.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I was a small oil person for a while in west Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
This is an administration that's had no plan.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And all of a sudden the results of having no plan have caught up with America.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
First and foremost we have to fully fund LIHEAP which is a way to help low income folks, particularly here in the east to pay for high fuel bills.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Secondly, we need an active exploration program in America.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The only way to become less dependent on foreign sources of crude oil is to explore at home.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
You bet I want to open up a small part of Alaska.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
When that field is online it will produce one million barrels a day.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Today we import one million barrels from Saddam Hussein.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I would rather that a million come from our own hemisphere, our own country as opposed to Saddam Hussein.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to build more pipelines to move natural gas throughout this hemisphere.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to develop the coal resources in America.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Have clean coal technologies.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Weâ€™ve got abundant supplies of energy here in America and weâ€™d better get after it, we better start exploring it or otherwise we'll be in deep trouble in the future because of our dependency upon foreign sources of crude.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
So if somebody is watching tonight and listening to what the two of you just said, is it fair to say, okay, the differences between Governor Bush and Vice President Gore are as follows.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
You're for doing something on the consumption end and you're for doing something on the production end?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me clarify.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm for doing something both on the supply side and production side and on the consumption side.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me say, that I found one thing in Governor Bush's answer that we certainly agree on, and that's the low income heating assistance program.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I commend you for supporting that.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I worked to get $400 million just a couple of weeks ago.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And to establish a permanent home heating oil reserve here in the northeast.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, as for the proposals that I've worked for for renewables and conservation and efficiencies and new technologies.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The fact is for the last few years in the Congress, we've faced a lot of opposition to them.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
They've only approved about 10% of the agenda I've helped to send up there.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think we need to get serious about this energy crisis, both in the Congress and in the White House, and if you entrust me with the presidency, I will tackle this problem and focus on new technologies that will make us less dependent on big oil or foreign oil.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
How would you draw the difference?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Well I would first say he should have been tackling it for the last seven years.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Secondly the difference is we need to explore at home.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And the vice president doesn't believe in exploration in Alaska.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
There's a lot of shut-in gas that we need to be moving out of Alaska by pipeline.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
There's an interesting issue up in the northwest as well.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Do we remove dams that produce hydroelectric energy?	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm against removing dams in the northwest.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I donâ€™t know where the vice president stands but thatâ€™s a renewable energy source of energy.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We need to keep that in line.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I was in coal country in West Virginia yesterday.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
There is an abundant supply of coal in America.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I know we can do a better job of clean coal technologies.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm going to ask the Congress for $2 billion to make sure we have the cleanest coal technologies in the world.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
My answer to you is in the short-term we need to get after it here in America.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We need to explore our resources and we need to develop our reservoirs of domestic production.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We also need to have a hemispheric energy policy where Canada, Mexico and the United States come together.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I brought this up recently with Vincent Fox the newly elected president in Mexico, he's a man I know from Mexico.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I talked to him about how best to expedite the exploration of natural gas in Mexico and transport it up to the United States so we become less dependent on foreign sources of crude oil.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
This is a major problem facing America.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The administration did not deal with it.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's time for a new administration to deal with the energy problem.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
If I may just briefly, Jim, note.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I found a couple of other things we agree upon.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
We may not find that many this evening, so I wanted to emphasize.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I strongly support new investments in clean coal technology.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I made a proposal three months ago on this.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And also domestic exploration yes, but not in the environmental treasures of our country.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We don't have to do that.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's the wrong choice.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I know the oil companies have been itching to do that, but it is not the right thing for the future.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
No.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's the right thing for the consumers.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Less dependency upon foreign sources of crude is good for consumers.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And we can do so in an environmentally friendly way.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Well can I have the last word on this?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
New question, new subject.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Governor Bush.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
If elected president, would you try to overturn the FDA's approval last week of the abortion pill RU-486?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I don't think a president can do that.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I was disappointed in the ruling because I think abortions ought to be more rare in America, and I'm worried that that pill will create more abortions and cause more people to have abortions.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
This is a very important topic and it's a very sensitive topic, because a lot of good people disagree on the issue.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think what the next president ought to do is to promote a culture of life in America.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Life of the elderly and life of those living all across the country.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Life of the unborn.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
As a matter of fact, I think a noble goal for this country is that every child, born or unborn, need to be protected by law and welcomed to life.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I know we need to change a lot of minds before we get there in America.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
What I do believe is that we can find good, common ground on issues of parental consent or parental notification.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I know we need to ban partial birth abortions.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
This is a place where my opponent and I have strong disagreement.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I believe banning partial birth abortions would be a positive step to reducing the number of abortions in America.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
This is an issue that will require a new attitude.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We've been battling over abortion for a long period of time.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Surely this nation can come together to promote the value of life.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Surely we can fight off these laws that will encourage doctors to -- to allow doctors to take the lives of our seniors.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Surely we can work together to create a cultural life so some of these youngsters who feel like they can take a neighbor's life with a gun will understand that that's not the way America is meant to be.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Surely we can find common ground to reduce the number of abortions in America.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
As to the drug itself, I mentioned I was disappointed.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I hope the FDA took its time to make sure that American women will be safe who use this drug.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Well, Jim, the FDA took 12 years, and I do support that decision.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
They determined it was medically safe for the women who use that drug.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
This is indeed a very important issue.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
First of all on the issue of partial birth or so-called late-term abortion, I would sign a law banning that procedure, provided that doctors have the ability to save a woman's life or to act if her health is severely at risk.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's not the main issue.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The main issue is whether or not the Roe v. Wade decision is going to be overturned.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I support a woman's right to choose.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
My opponent does not.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It is important because the next president is going to appoint three and maybe even four justices of the Supreme Court.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And Governor Bush has declared to the anti-choice groups that he will appoint justices in the mold of Scalia and Clarence Thomas, who are known for being the most vigorous opponents of a woman's right to choose.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Here is the difference.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
He trusts the government to order a woman to do what it thinks she ought to do.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I trust women to make the decisions that affect their lives, their destinies and their bodies.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And I think a woman's right to choose ought to be protected and defended.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Governor, we'll go to the Supreme Court question in a moment, but make sure I understand your position on RU-486.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
If you're elected president, not through appointments to the FDA, you won't support legislation to overturn this?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I don't think a president can unilaterally overturn it.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The FDA has made its decision.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
That means you wouldn't, through appointments, to the FDA and ask them to --	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think once a decision has been made, it's been made unless it's proven to be unsafe to women.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Jim, the question you asked, if I heard you correctly, was would he support legislation to overturn it.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
And if I heard the statement day before yesterday, you said you would order -- he said he would order his FDA appointee to review the decision.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now that sounds to me a little bit different.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I just think that we ought to support the decision.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I said I would make sure that women would be safe who used the drug.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
On the Supreme Court question.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Should a voter assume -- you're pro-life.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I am pro-life.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Should a voter assume that all judicial appointments you make to the supreme court or any other court, federal court, will also be pro-life?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The voters should assume I have no litmus test on that issue or any other issue.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Voters will know I'll put competent judges on the bench.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
People who will strictly interpret the Constitution and not use the bench to write social policy.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
That is going to be a big difference between my opponent and me.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I believe that the judges ought not to take the place of the legislative branch of government.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
That they're appointed for life and that they ought to look at the Constitution as sacred.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
They shouldn't misuse their bench.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I don't believe in liberal activist judges.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I believe in strict constructionists.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Those are the kind of judges I will appoint.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I've named four supreme court justices in the State of Texas and would ask the people to check out their qualifications, their deliberations.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
They're good, solid men and women who have made good, sound judgments on behalf of the people of Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
What kind of appointments should they expect from you?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
We both use similar language to reach an exactly opposite outcome.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I don't favor a litmus test, but I know that there are ways to assess how a potential justice interprets the Constitution.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And in my view, the Constitution ought to be interpreted as a document that grows with our country and our history.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And I believe, for example, that there is a right of privacy in the Fourth Amendment.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And when the phrase a strict constructionist is used and when the names of Scalia and Thomas are used as the benchmarks for who would be appointed, those are code words, and nobody should mistake this, for saying the governor would appoint people who would overturn Roe v. Wade.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's very clear to me.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I would appoint people that have a philosophy that I think would have it quite likely they would uphold Roe v. Wade.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Is the vice president right?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Is that a code word for overturning Roe v. Wade?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
It sounds like the vice presidentâ€™s not right very many times tonight.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I just told you the criteria on which I'll appoint judges.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I have a record of appointing judges in the State of Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's what a governor gets to do.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
A governor gets to name supreme court judges.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
He also reads all kinds of things into my tax plan and into my Medicare plan.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want the viewers out there to listen to what I have to say about it.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Reverse the question.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
What code phrases should we read by what you said about what kind of people you would appoint?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
It would be likely that they would uphold Roe v. Wade.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I do believe it's wrong to use a litmus test.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
If you look at the history of a lower court judge's rulings, you can get a pretty good idea of how they'll interpret questions.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
A lot of questions are first impression, and these questions that have been seen many times come up in a new context and so -- but, you know, this is a very important issue.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Because a lot of young women in this country take this right for granted and it could be lost.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It is on the ballot in this election, make no mistake about it.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'll tell you what kind of judges he'll put on.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
He'll put liberal activists justices who will use their bench to subvert the legislature, that's what he'll do.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Thatâ€™s not right.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
New subject, new question.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore, if President Milosevic of Yugoslavia refuses to accept the election results and leave office, what action, if any, should the United States take to get him out of there?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Well, Milosevic has lost the election.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
His opponent, Kostunica, has won the election.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's overwhelming.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Milosevic's government refuses to release the vote count.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
There's now a general strike going on.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
They're demonstrating.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think we should support the people of Serbia and Yugoslavia, as they call the Serbia plus Montenegro, and put pressure in every way possible to recognize the lawful outcome of the election.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The people of Serbia have acted very bravely in kicking this guy out of office.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now he is trying to not release the votes and then go straight to a so-called runoff election without even announcing the results of the first vote.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, we've made it clear, along with our allies, that when Milosevic leaves, then Serbia will be able to have a more normal relationship with the rest of the world.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
That is a very strong incentive that we've given them to do the right thing.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Bear in mind also, Milosevic has been indicted as a war criminal and he should be held accountable for his actions.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, we have to take measured steps because the sentiment within Serbia is, for understandable reasons, against the United States because their nationalism -- even if they don't like Milosevic, they still have some feelings lingering from the NATO action there.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
So we have to be intelligent in the way we go about it.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
But make no mistake about it, we should do everything we can to see that the will of the Serbian people expressed in this extraordinary election is done.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And I hope that he'll be out of office very shortly.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Governor Bush, one minute.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Well, I'm pleased with the results of the election.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
As the vice president is.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's time for the man to go.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It means that the United States must have a strong diplomatic hand with our friends in NATO.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's why it's important to make sure our alliances are as strong as they possibly can be to keep the pressure on Mr. Milosevic.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
But this will be an interesting moment for the Russians to step up and lead as well.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Be a wonderful time for the Russians to step into the Balkans and convince Mr. Milosevic that it's in his best interest and his country's best interest to leave office.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The Russians have a lot of sway in that part of the world.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We would like to see the Russians use that sway to encourage democracy to take hold.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's an encouraging election.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's time for the man to leave.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
What if he doesn't leave?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
What if all the diplomatic efforts, all the pressure from all over the world and he still doesn't go?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Is this the kind of thing, to be specific, that you as president would consider the use of U.S. military force to get him gone?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
In this particular situation, no.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Bear in mind that we have a lot of sanctions in force against Serbia right now.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And the people of Serbia know that they can escape all those sanctions if this guy is turned out of power.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, I understand what the governor has said about asking the Russians to be involved, and under some circumstances that might be a good idea.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
But being as they have not yet been willing to recognize Kostunica as the lawful winner of the election, I'm not sure it's right for us to invite the president of Russia to mediate this -- this dispute there because we might not like the results that comes out of that.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
They currently favor going forward with a runoff election.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think that's the wrong thing.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think the governor's instinct is not necessarily bad because we have worked with the Russians in a constructive way in Kosovo, for example, to end the conflict there.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
But I think we need to be very careful in the present situation before we invite the Russians to play the lead role in mediating.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Well obviously we wouldn't use the Russians if they didn't agree with our answer, Mr. Vice President.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
They donâ€™t.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me say this to you, I wouldn't use force.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I wouldn't use force.	George W. Bush	NaN	2000	03 Oct 2000
You wouldn't use force?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
No.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Why not?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's not in our national interest to use force in this case.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I would use pressure and diplomacy.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
There is a difference with what the president did in Kosovo which I supported and this.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's up to the people in this region to take control of their country.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
New question.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
How would you go about as president deciding when it was in the national interest to use U.S. force, generally?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Well, if it's in our vital national interests, and that means whether our territory is threatened or people could be harmed, whether or not the alliances are -- our defense alliances are threatened, whether or not our friends in the Middle East are threatened.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
That would be a time to seriously consider the use of force.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Secondly, whether or not the mission was clear.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Whether or not it was a clear understanding as to what the mission would be.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Thirdly, whether or not we were prepared and trained to win.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Whether or not our forces were of high morale and high standing and well-equipped.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And finally, whether or not there was an exit strategy.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I would take the use of force very seriously.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I would be guarded in my approach.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I don't think we can be all things to all people in the world.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think we've got to be very careful when we commit our troops.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The vice president and I have a disagreement about the use of troops.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
He believes in nation building.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I believe the role of the military is to fight and win war and therefore prevent war from happening in the first place.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
So I would take my responsibility seriously.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And it starts with making sure we rebuild our military power.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Morale in today's military is too low.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We're having trouble meeting recruiting goals.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We met the goals this year, but in the previous years we have not met recruiting goals.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Some of our troops are not well-equipped.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I believe we're overextended in too many places.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And therefore I want to rebuild the military power.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It starts with a billion dollar pay raise for the men and women who wear the uniform.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
A billion dollars more than the president recently signed into law.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's to make sure our troops are well-housed and well-equipped.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Bonus plans to keep some of our high-skilled folks in the services and a commander in chief who clearly sets the mission.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The mission is to fight and win war and therefore prevent war from happening in the first place.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore, one minute.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me tell you what Iâ€™ll do.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
First of all Â I want to make it clear, our military is the strongest, best-trained, best-equipped, best-led fighting force in the world and in the history of the world.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Nobody should have any doubt about that, least of all our adversaries or potential adversaries.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
If you entrust me with the presidency, I will do whatever is necessary in order to make sure our forces stay the strongest in the world.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
In fact, in my ten-year budget proposal I've set aside more than twice as much for this purpose as Governor Bush has in his proposal.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, I think we should be reluctant to get involved in someplace in a foreign country.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
But if our national security is at stake, if we have allies, if we've tried every other course, if we're sure military action will succeed, and if the costs are proportionate to the benefits, we should get involved.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, just because we don't want to get involved everywhere doesn't mean we should back off anywhere it comes up.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I disagree with the proposal that maybe only when oil supplies are at stake that our national security is at risk.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think that there are situations like in Bosnia or Kosovo where there's a genocide, where our national security is at stake there.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I agree our military is the strongest in the world today, that's not the question.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The question is will it be the strongest in the years to come?	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The warning signs are real.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Everywhere I go on the campaign trail I see moms and dads whose son or daughter may wear the uniform and they tell me about how discouraged their son or daughter may be.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
A recent poll was taken among 1,000 enlisted personnel, as well as officers, over half of whom will leave the service when their time of enlistment is up.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The captains are leaving the service.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
There is a problem.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And it's going to require a new commander in chief to rebuild the military power.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The other day I was honored to be flanked by Colin Powell and General Norman Schwartzkopf recently stood by me side and agreed with me.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
They said even if we are the strongest if we donâ€™t do something if we don't have a clear vision of the military, if we don't stop extending our troops all around the world and nation building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road, and I'm going to prevent that.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm going to rebuild our military power.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's one of the major priorities of my administration.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore, how should the voters go about deciding which one of you is better suited to make the kinds of decisions, whether it's Milosevic or whatever, in the military and foreign policy area?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Well, they should look at our proposals and look at us as people and make up their own minds.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
When I was a young man, I volunteered for the Army.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I served my country in Vietnam.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
My father was a senator who strongly opposed the Vietnam War.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I went to college in this great city, and most of my peers felt against the war as I did.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
But I went anyway because I knew if I didn't, somebody else in the small town of Carthage, Tennessee, would have to go in my place.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I served for eight years in the House of Representatives and I served on the Intelligence Committee, specialized in looking at arms control.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I served for eight years in the United States Senate and served on the Armed Services Committee.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
For the last eight years I've served on the National Security Council, and when the conflict came up in Bosnia, I saw a genocide in the heart of Europe with the most violent war on the continent of Europe since World War II.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Look, that's where World War I started in the Balkans.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
My uncle was a victim of poisonous gas there.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Millions of Americans saw the results of that conflict.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We have to be willing to make good, sound judgments.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Incidentally, I know the value of making sure our troops have the latest technology.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The governor has proposed skipping the next generation of weapons.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think that's a big mistake, because I think we have to stay at the cutting edge.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Governor, how would you advise the voters to make the decision on this issue?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think you've got to look at how one has handled responsibility in office.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Whether or not it's -- the same in domestic policy as well.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Whether or not you have the capacity to convince people to follow?	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Whether or not one makes decisions based on sound principles or whether or not you rely upon polls and focus groups on how to decide what the course of action is.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We have too much polling and focus groups going on in Washington today.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We need decisions made on sound principles.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I've been the governor of a big state.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think one of the hallmarks of my relationship in Austin, Texas, is that I've had the capacity to work with both Republicans and Democrats.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think that's an important part of leadership.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think what it means to build consensus.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I've shown I know how to do so.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Tonight in the audience there's one elected state senator who is a Democrat, a former state-wide officer who is a Democrat, a lot of Democrats who are here in the debate to -- because they want to show their support that shows I know how to lead.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And so the fundamental answer to your question, who can lead and who's shown the ability to get things done?	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
If I could say one thing.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
We are way over three-and-a-half minutes.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Go ahead.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
One of the key points in foreign policy and national security policy is the need to re-establish the old-fashioned principle that politics ought to stop at the water's edge.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
When I was in the United States Congress, I worked with former President Reagan to modernize our strategic weaponry and to pursue arms control in a responsible way.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
When I was in the United States Senate I worked with former President Bush, your father.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I was one of only a few Democrats in the Senate to support the Persian Gulf War.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think bipartisanship is a national asset.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We have to find ways to reestablish it in foreign policy and national security policy.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Do you have a problem with that?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Yeah.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Why haven't they done it in seven years?	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
New subject.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
New question.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Should the voters of this election, Vice President Gore, see this in the domestic area as a major choice between competing political philosophies?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Oh, absolutely.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
This is a very important moment in the history of our country.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Look, we've got the biggest surpluses in all of American history.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The key question that has to be answered in this election is will we use that prosperity wisely in a way that benefits all of our people and doesn't go just to the few.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Almost half of all the tax cut benefits, as I said under Governor Bush's plan, go to the wealthiest 1%.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think we have to make the right and responsible choices.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think we have to invest in education, protecting the environment, health care, a prescription drug benefit that goes to all seniors, not just to the poor, under Medicare, not relying on HMOs and insurance companies.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think that we have to help parents and strengthen families by dealing with the kind of inappropriate entertainment material that families are just heart sick that their children are exposed to.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think we've got to have welfare reform taken to the next stage.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think that we have got to balance the budget every single year, pay down the national debt and, in fact, under my proposal the national debt will be completely eliminated by the year 2012.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think we need to put Medicare and Social Security in a lockbox.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The governor will not put Medicare in a lockbox.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I don't think it should be used as a piggy bank for other programs.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think it needs to be moved out of the budget and protected.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'll veto anything that takes money out of Social Security or Medicare for anything other than Social Security or Medicare.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, the priorities are just very different.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'll give you a couple of examples.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
For every new dollar that I propose for spending on health care, Governor Bush spends $3 for a tax cut for the wealthiest 1%.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, for every dollar that I propose to spend on education, he spends $5 on a tax cut for the wealthiest 1%.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Those are very clear differences.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Governor, one minute.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The man is practicing fuzzy math again.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
There's differences.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Under Vice President Gore's plan, he is going to grow the federal government in the largest increase since Lyndon Baines Johnson in 1965.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We're talking about a massive government, folks.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We're talking about adding to or increasing 200 programs, 20,000 new bureaucrats.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Imagine how many IRS agents it is going to take to be able to figure out his targeted tax cut for the middle class that excludes 50 million Americans.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
There is a huge difference in this campaign.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
He says he's going to give you tax cuts.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
50 million of you won't receive it.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
He said in his speech he wants to make sure the right people get tax relief.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's not the role of a president to decide right and wrong.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Everybody who pays taxes ought to get tax relief.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
After my plan is in place, the wealthiest Americans will pay a higher percentage of taxes then they do today, the poorest of Americans, six million families, won't pay any tax at all.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's a huge difference.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
A difference between big exploding federal government that wants to think on your behalf and a plan that meets priorities and liberates working people to be able to make decisions on your own.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me just say, Jim, you haven't heard the governor deny these numbers.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
He's called them phony and fuzzy.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The fact remains almost 30% of his proposed tax cut goes to -- only to Americans that make more than $1 million per year.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
More money goes to the -- can I have a rebuttal here?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to see if he buys that.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me tell you what the facts are.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The facts are after my plan, the wealthiest of Americans pay more taxes of the percentage of the whole than they do today.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Secondly, if you're a family of four making $50,000 in Massachusetts, you get a 50% tax cut.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me give you one example.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The Strunk family in Allentown, Pennsylvania, I campaigned with them the other day.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
They make $51,000 combined income, they pay about $3500 in taxes.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Under my plan, they get $1800 of tax relief.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Under Vice President Gore's plan, they get $145 of tax relief.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now you tell me who stands on the side of the fence.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
You ask the Strunks whose plan makes more sense.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
There is a difference of opinion.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
He would rather spend the family's $1800 and I would rather the Strunks spend their own money.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Do you see it that way Mr. Vice President?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
No, I don't, and I'm not going to go to calling names on his facts.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm just gonna tell you what the real facts are.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The analysis that he's talking about leaves out more than half of the tax cuts that I have proposed.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And if you just add the numbers up, he still hasn't denied it, he spends more money on a tax cut for the wealthiest 1% than all his new proposals for prescription drugs, healthcare, education, and national defense combined.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now those are the wrong priorities.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
$665 billion over ten years for the wealthiest 1%.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
As I said, almost 30% of it goes to Americans that make more than $1 million per year.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Every middle class family is eligible for a tax cut under my proposal.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me give you some specific examples.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I believe college tuition up to $10,000 per year ought to be tax deductible so middle-class families can choose to send their children to college.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I believe all senior citizens should be able to choose their own doctors and get prescription drugs from their own pharmacists with Medicare paying half the bill.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I believe parents ought to be able to make more choices need more public and charter school choice to send their kids always to a safe school.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We need to make education the number one priority in our country and treat teachers like the professionals that they are.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And that's why I have made it a number one priority in my budget, not a tax cut for the wealthy.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me talk about tax cuts one more time.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
This is a man whose plan excludes 50 million Americans.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Not so.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Take for example the marriage penalty.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
If you itemize your tax return, you get no marriage penalty relief.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
He picks and chooses.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
He decides who the right people are.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's a fundamental difference of opinion.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want my fellow Americans to hear one more time.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
We'll spend $25 trillion -- we'll collect $25 trillion in revenue in the next 10 years and spend $21 trillion.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Surely we can send 5% back to you that pay the bills.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Thereâ€™s a problem wait.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to say something, Jim.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
This man has been disparaging my plan with all this Washington fuzzy math.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want you to hear a problem weâ€™ve got here in the USA.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
If you're a single mother making $22,000 a year and you have two children, under this tax code, for every additional dollar you make, you pay a higher marginal rate on that dollar than someone making more than $200,000 a year, and that is not right.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
My plan drops the rate from 15% to 10% and increases the child credit from $500 to $1,000 to make the code more fair for everybody, not just a few, not just a handful.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Everybody who pays taxes ought to get some relief.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Having cleared that up, we're going to a new question.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Education.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Governor Bush.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Both of you have promised dramatically to change -- to change dramatically public education in this country.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Of the public money spent on education, only 6% of that is federal money.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
You want to change 100% of the public education with 6% of the money, is that possible?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
We can make a huge difference by saying if you receive federal money we expect you to show results.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me give you a story about public education, if I might.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's about Kipp Academy in Houston, Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
A charter school run by some people from Teach For America.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Young folks saying I'm going to do something good for my country.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to teach.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
A guy named Michael runs the school.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It is a school full of so-called at-risk children.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's how we unfortunately label certain children.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Basically it means they can't learn.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's a school of strong discipline and high standards.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's one of the best schools in Houston.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Here are the key ingredients.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
High expectations, strong accountabily.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
What Michael says, don't put all these rules on us, just let us teach and hold us accountable for every grade.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's what we do.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And as a result, these mainly Hispanic youngsters are some of the best learners in Houston, Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's my vision for public education all around America.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Many of you viewers don't know, but Laura and I sent our girls to public school.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
They went to Austin High School.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
And many of the public schools are meeting the call.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
But, unfortunately, a lot of schools are trapping children in schools that just won't teach and won't change.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Here is the role of the federal government.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
One is to change Head Start to a reading program.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Two is to say if you want to access reading money, you can do so.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The goal is for every single child to learn to Read.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
there must by K-2 diagnostic teaching tools, teacher training money, available.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Three, we have to consolidate the federal programs to free districts to free the schools and encourage innovators like Michael.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let them reach out beyond the confines of the current structure to recruit teach-for-the-children type teachers.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Four, we're going to say if you receive federal money, measure third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh and eighth grade.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Show us if they are learning to read, write, add and subtract and if so there will be bonus plans.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
But if not, instead of continuing to subsidize failure, the money will go to -- the federal money will go to the parents for public school or charter school or tutorial or Catholic school.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
What I care about is children.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
And so does Michael Feinberg.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
And you know what?	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
It can happen in America with the right kind of leadership.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We agree on a couple of things on education.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I strongly support new accountability, so does Governor Bush.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I strongly support local control, so does Governor Bush.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm in favor of testing as a way of measuring performance.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Every school and every school district, have every state test the children.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I've also proposed a voluntary national test in the fourth grade and eighth grade, and a form of testing the governor has not endorsed.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think that all new teachers ought to be tested in the subjects that they teach.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We've got to recruit 100,000 new teachers.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And I have budgeted for that.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We've got to reduce the class size so that the student who walks in has more one-on-one time with the teacher.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We ought to have universal pre-school and we ought to make college tuition tax deductible, up to $10,000 a year.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I would like to tell you a quick story.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I got a letter today as I left Sarasota, Florida.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm here with a group of 13 people from around the country who helped me prepare.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We had a great time.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Two days ago we ate lunch at a restaurant.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The guy that served us lunch gave me a letter today.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
His name is Randy Ellis.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
He has a 15-year-old daughter named Caley, who is in Sarasota High School.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Her science class was supposed to be for 24 students.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
She's the 36th student in that classroom.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
They sent me a picture of her in the classroom.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
They can't squeeze another desk in for her, so she has to stand during class.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want the federal government, consistent with local control and new accountability, to make improvement of our schools the number one priority so Caley will have a desk and can sit down in a classroom where she can learn.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
All right.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
So having heard the two of you, the voters have just heard the two of you, what is the difference?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
What is the choice between the two of you on education?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The first is, the difference is there is no new accountability measures in Vice President Gore's plan.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
He says he's for voluntary testing.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
You can't have voluntary testing.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
You must have mandatory testing.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
You must say that if you receive money you must show us whether or not children are learning to read and write and add and subtract.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's the difference.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
You may claim you've got mandatory testing but you don't, Mr. Vice President.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's a huge difference.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Testing is the cornerstone of reform.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
You know how I know?	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Because it's the cornerstone of reform in the State of Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Republicans and Democrats came together and said what can we do to make our public education the best in the country?	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
We've done a long way working together to do so.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The cornerstone is to have strong accountability in return for money and in return for flexibility.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We're going to ask you to show us whether or not -- we ask you to post the results on the Internet.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We encourage parents to take a look at the comparative results of schools.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We have a strong charter school movement that I signed the legislation to get started in the State of Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I believe if we find poor children trapped in schools that won't teach, we need to free the parents.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We need to expand education savings accounts.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Something that the vice presidentâ€™s running mate supports.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
There's big differences.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
He won't support freeing local districts from the strings of federal money.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
First of all, I do have mandatory testing.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think the governor may not have heard what I said clearly.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The voluntary national testing is in addition to the mandatory testing that we require of states.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
All schools, all school districts, students themselves, and required teacher testing, which goes a step farther than Governor Bush has been willing to go.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Here are a couple of differences, though, Jim.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Governor Bush is in favor of vouchers which take taxpayer money away from public schools and give them to private schools that are not accountable for how the money is used and don't have to take all applicants.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, private schools play a great role in our society.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
All of our children have gone to both public schools and private schools.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
But I don't think private schools should have a right to take taxpayer money away from public schools at a time when Caley Ellis is standing in that classroom.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me give you another example.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I went to a school in Dade County, Florida where the facilities are so overcrowded the children have to eat lunch in shifts with the first shift for lunch starting at 9:30 in the morning.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Look, this is a funding crisis all around the country.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
There are fewer parents of school-age children as a percentage of the voting population and there is the largest generation of students ever.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We're in an information age when learning is more important than ever.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
90% of our kids go to public schools.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We have to make it the number one priority.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Modernize our schools, reduce class size, recruit new teachers, give every child a chance to learn with one-on-one time in a quality -- high-quality, safe school.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
If it's a failing school, shut it down and reopen it under a new principal with a turnaround team of specialists the way Governor Jim Hunt does in North Carolina.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Here is another difference.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The governor, if it's a failing school, would leave the children in that failing school for three years and then give a little bit of money to the parents, a down payment on a down payment for private school tuition, and pretend that that would be enough for them to go out and go to a private school.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's an illusion.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Wait a minute, Governor.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Okay.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
First of all, most of good governance is at the state level.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
See, here is the mentality.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm going to make the state do this and make the state do that.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
All I'm saying is if you spend money, show us results and test every year, which you do not do, Mr. Vice President.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
You don't test every year.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
You can say you do to the cameras but you don't, unless you've changed your plan here on the stage.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I didn't say that.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
You need to test every year.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's how you determine if children are progressing to excellence.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Secondly, one of the things that we have to be careful about in politics is throwing money at a system that has not yet been reformed.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
More money is needed and I spend more money, but step one is to make sure we reform the system to have the system in place that leaves no child behind.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Stop this business about asking gosh, how old are you?	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
If you're 10 we'll put you here, 12 you put here.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Start asking the question, what do you know?	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
If you don't know what you're supposed to know, we'll make sure you do early before it's too late.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
New question.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
We've been talking about a lot of specific issues.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's often said that in the final analysis about 90% of being the President of the United States is dealing with the unexpected, not with issues that came up in the campaign.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore, can you point to a decision, an action you have taken, that illustrates your ability to handle the unexpected, the crisis under fire?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
When the action in Kosovo was dragging on and we were searching for a solution to the problem, our country had defeated the adversary on the battlefield without a single American life being lost in combat.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
But the dictator Milosevic was hanging on.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I invited the former prime minister of Russia to my house and took a risk in asking him to get personally involved, along with the head of Finland, to go to Belgrade and to take a set of proposals from the United States that would constitute basically a surrender by Serbia.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
But it was a calculated risk that paid off.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, I could probably give you some other examples of decisions over the last 24 years.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I have been in public service for 24 years, Jim.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And throughout all that time the people I have fought for have been the middle-class families, and I have been willing to stand up to powerful interests like the big insurance companies, the drug companies, the HMOs, the oil companies.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
They have good people and they play constructive roles sometimes, but sometimes they get too much power.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I cast my lot with the people even when it means that you have to stand up to some powerful interests who are trying to turn the -- the policies and the laws to their advantage.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
You can see it in this campaign.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The big drug companies support Governor Bush's prescription drug proposal.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
They oppose mine because they don't want to get Medicare involved because they're afraid that Medicare will negotiate lower prices for seniors who currently pay the highest prices of all.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Governor Bush?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I've been standing up to big Hollywood, big trial lawyers.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Was â€“ what was the question?	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
It was about emergencies, wasn't it?	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
It was about -- okay.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
You know, as governor, one of the things you have to deal with is catastrophe.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I can remember the fires that swept Parker County, Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I remember the floods that swept our state.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I remember going down to Del Rio, Texas.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I have to pay the administration a compliment.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
James Lee Witt of FEMA has done a really good job of working with governors during times of crisis.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
But that's the time when you're tested not only -- it's the time to test your mettle, a time to test your heart when you see people whose lives have been turned upside down.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It broke my heart to go to the flood scene in Del Rio where a fellow and his family got completely uprooted.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The only thing I knew to do was to get aid as quickly as possible with state and federal help, and to put my arms around the man and his family and cry with them.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's what governors do.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
They are often on the front line of catastrophic situations.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
New question.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
There can be all kinds of crises, Governor.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
A questions for you.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
There could be a crisis, for instance, in the financial area, the stock market could take a tumble, there could be a failure of a major financial institution.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
What is your general attitude toward government intervention in such events?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Well, it depends, obviously.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
But what I would do first and foremost, is I would get in touch with the Federal Reserve Chairman, Alan Greenspan, to find out all the facts and all the circumstances.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I would have my Secretary of the Treasury be in touch with the financial centers not only here, but at home.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I would make sure that key members of Congress were called in to discuss the gravity of the situation.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And I would come up with a game plan to deal with it.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's what governors end up doing.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We end up being problem solvers.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We come up with practical, common sense solutions for problems that we're confronted with.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
In this case, in the case of a financial crisis, I would gather all the facts before I made the decision as to what the government ought or ought not to do.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
First I want to compliment the governor on his response to those fires and floods in Texas.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I accompanied James Lee Witt down to Texas when those fires broke out.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
And FEMA has been a major flagship project of our reinventing government efforts.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
And I agree, it works extremely well now.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
On the international financial crises that come up, my friend, Bob Rubin, the former Secretary of Treasury is here, he's a close advisor to me and great friend in all respects.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I have had a chance to work with him and Alan Greenspan and others on the crisis following the collapse of the Mexican peso.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
When the Asian financial crisis raised the risk of world-wide recession that could affect our economy, And now, of course, the euro's value has been dropping, but seems to be under control.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
But it started for me in the last eight years when I had the honor of casting the tie-breaking vote to end the old economic plan here at home and put into place a new economic plan that has helped us to make some progress, 22 million new jobs, the greatest prosperity ever.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
But it's not good enough.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
My attitude is you ain't seen nothing yet.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
We need to do more and better.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
So, Governor, would you agree there is no basic difference here on intervening -- on federal government intervening in what might be seen by others to be a private financial crisis?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
No, there's no difference on that.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
There is a difference, though, as to what the economy has meant.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think the economy has meant more for the Gore and Clinton folks than the Gore and Clinton folks have meant for the economy.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think most of the economic growth that has taken place is a result of ingenuity and hard work and entrepreneurship and that's the role of goverment to encourage that.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
In terms of in response to the question, no.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Can I comment on that?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
You may.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
You know, I think the American people deserve credit for the great economy that we have.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's their ingenuity, I agree with that.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
But you know, they were working pretty hard eight years ago.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And now they had ingenuity eight years ago.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The difference is we've got a new policy.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And instead of concentrating on tax cuts mostly for the wealthy, we want -- I want tax cuts for the middle-class families and I want to continue the prosperity and make sure that it enriches not just a few but all of our families.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We have gone from the biggest deficits to the biggest surpluses.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We have gone from a triple-dip recession during the previous 12 years to a tripling of the stock market.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Instead of a high unemployment, we have the lowest African-American and Latin American unemployment rates in history and 22 million new jobs.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's not good enough.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Too many people have been left behind.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We have got to do much more.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The key is job training, education, investments in health care and education, environment, retirement security.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And incidentally, we have got to preserve Social Security.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm totally opposed to diverting one out of every six dollars out of the Social Security trust fund, as the Governor has proposed, into the stock market.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want new incentives for savings and investment for the young couples who are working hard so they can save and invest on their own on top of Social Security, not at the expense of Social Security, as the governor proposes.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Two points.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
One, a lot of folks are still waiting for that 1992 middle-class tax cut.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I remember the vice president saying, "Just give us a chance to get up there, we're going to make sure you get tax cuts."	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It didn't happen.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now he's having to say that again.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
They've had their chance to deliver a tax cut to you.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Secondly, the surest way to bust this economy is to increase the role and size of the federal budget.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The Senate Budget Committee did a study of the vice president's expenditures.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's been projected that they could conceivably bust the budget by $900 billion.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
That means he'll either have to raise your taxes by $900 billion or go into the Social Security surplus for $900 billion.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
This is a plan that is going to increase the bureaucracy by 20,000 people.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
His targeted tax cut is so detailed, so much fine print that it is going to require numerous IRS agents.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We need somebody to simplify the code, to be fair, to continue prosperity by sharing some of the surplus with the people who pay the bills, particularly those at the bottom end of the economic ladder.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
If I could respond, Jim.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
What he's quoting is not the Senate Budget Commiitte, it is a partisan press release by the Republicans on the Senate Budget Committee that's not worth the government -- the taxpayer-paid paper that it's printed on.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, as for 20,000 new bureaucrats, as you call them, you know, the size of the federal government will go down in a Gore administration.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
In the reinventing government program you just look at the numbers.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It is 300,000 people smaller today than it was eight years ago.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, the fact is you're going to have a hard time convincing folks that we were a whole lot better off eight years ago than we are today.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
But that's not the question.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The question is, will we be better off four years from now than we are today?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
And as for the surest way to threaten our prosperity, having a $1.9 trillion tax cut, almost half of which goes to the wealthy, and a $1 trillion Social Security privatization proposal is the surest way to put our budget into deficit â€“ raise interest rates and put our prosperity at risk.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I can't let the man continue with fuzzy math.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
It is 1.3 trillion Mr. Vice President.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It will go to everybody who pays taxes.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm not going to be the kind of president that says you get tax relief and you don't.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm not going to be a picker and chooser.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
What is fair is everybody who pays taxes ought to get relief.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I thought we cleared this up a while ago.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
New question on Social Security.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Both of you have Social Security reform plans, so we could spend the rest of the evening and two or three other evenings talking about them in detail.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
We won't do that.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
But --	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Suits me.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Many experts, including Federal Reserve Chairman Greenspan, Vice President Gore, say that it will be impossible for either of you, essentially, to keep the system viable on its own during the coming baby boomer retirement onslaught without either reducing benefits or increasing taxes.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
You disagree?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I do disagree.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Because if we can keep our prosperity going, if we can continue balancing the budget and paying down the debt, then the strong economy keeps generating surpluses.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Here is my plan.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I will keep Social Security in a lockbox and that pays down the national debt.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And the interest savings I would put right back into Social Security.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
That extends the life of Social Security for 55 years.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, I think that it's very important to understand that cutting benefits under Social Security means that people like Winifred Skinner from Des Moines, Iowa, who is here, would really have a much harder time.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Because there are millions of seniors who are living almost hand to mouth.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And you talk about cutting benefits.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I don't go along with it.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I am opposed to it.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm also opposed to a plan that diverts 1 out of every $6 away from the Social Security Trust Fund.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Social Security is a trust fund that pays the checks this year with the money that is paid into Social Security this year.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The governor wants to divert 1 out of every $6 off into the stock market, which means that he would drain a trillion dollars out of the Social Security Trust Fund in this generation over the next ten years, and Social Security under that approach would go bankrupt within this generation.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
His leading advisor on this plan actually said that would be okay, because then the Social Security Trust Fund could start borrowing.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It would borrow up to $3 trillion.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Now, Social Security has never done that.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And I don't think it should do that.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think it should stay in a lockbox, and I'll tell you this.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I will veto anything that takes money out of Social Security for privatization or anything else other than Social Security.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I thought it was interesting that on the two minutes he spent about a million-and-a-half on my plan, which means he doesn't want you to know what he's doing is loading up IOUs for future generations.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
He puts no real assets into the Social Security system.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The revenues exceed the expenses in Social Security until the year 2015 which means all retirees are going to get the promises made.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
For those of you who he wants to scare into the voting booth to vote for him, hear me loud and clear.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
A promise made will be a promise kept.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
You bet we want to allow younger workers to take some of their own money.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's the difference of opinion.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The vice president thinks it's the government's money.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The payroll taxes are your money.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
You ought to put it in prudent, safe investments so that $1 trillion over the next ten years grows to be $3 trillion.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The money stays within the Social Security system.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's a part of the Social Security system.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
He claims it will be out of Social Security.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's your money, it's a part of your retirement benefit.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's a fundamental difference between what we believe.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want you to have your own asset that you can call your own.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
That you can pass on from one generation to the next.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to get a better rate of return for your own money than the paltry 2% that the current Social Security Trust gets today.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Mr. Greenspan I thought missed an opportunity to say there's a third way, and that is to get a better rate of return on the Social Security monies coming into the trust.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
There is $2.3 trillion of surplus that we can use to make sure that younger workers have a Social Security plan in the future.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
If we're smart and if we trust workers and if we understand the power of the compounding rate of interest.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Here is the difference.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I give a new incentive for younger workers to save their own money and invest their own money, but not at the expense of Social Security, on top of Social Security.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
My plan is Social Security plus.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The governor's plan is Social Security minus.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Your future benefits would be cut by the amount that's diverted into the stock market.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
If you make bad investments, that's too bad.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
But even before then the problem hits because the money contributed to Social Security this year is an entitlement.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's how it works.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And the money is used to pay the benefits for seniors this year.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
If you cut the amount going in 1 out of every $6, then you have to cut the value of each check by 1 out of every $6 unless you come up with the money from somewhere else.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I would like to know from the governor -- I know we're not supposed to ask each other questions -- but I'd be interested in knowing, does that trillion dollars come from the trust fund, or does it come from the rest of the budget?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
No.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
There's enough money to pay seniors today in the current affairs of Social Security.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The trillion comes from the surplus.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Surplus is money -- more money than needed.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Let me tell you what your plan is.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's not Social Security plus, it's Social Security plus huge debt.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
That is what it is.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
You leave future generations with tremendous IOUs.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's time to have a leader that doesn't put off tomorrow what we should do today.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's time to have somebody to step up and say look, let's let younger workers take some of their own money and under certain guidelines invest it in the private markets.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
The safest of federal investments yields 4%.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
That's twice the amount of rate of return than the current Social Security Trust.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's a fundamental difference of opinion here, folks.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Younger worker after younger worker hears my call that says I trust you.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And you know what, the issue is changing.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Seniors now understand that the promise made will be a promise kept, but younger workers now understand we better have a government that trusts them and that's exactly what I'm going to do.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Could I respond to that, Jim?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
This is a big issue.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Could we do another round on it?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
We're almost out of time.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Just briefly.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
When FDR established Social Security, they didn't call them IOUs, they called it the full faith and credit of the United States.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
If you don't have trust in that, I do.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
If you take it out of the surplus in the trust fund, that means the trust fund goes bankrupt in this generation within 20 years.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
This is a government that thinks a 2% rate of return on your money is satisfactory.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's not.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
This is a government that says younger workers can't possibly have their own assets.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We need to think differently about the issue.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We need to make sure our seniors get the promise made.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
If we don't trust younger workers to manage some of their own money with the Social Security surplus, to grow from $1 trillion to $3 trillion, it will be impossible to bridge the gap without it.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
What Mr. Gore's plan will do causing huge payroll taxes or major benefit reductions.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
New question.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Are there issues of character that distinguish you from Vice President Gore?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The man loves his wife and I appreciate that a lot.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And I love mine.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
The man loves his family a lot, and I appreciate that, because I love my family.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think the thing that discouraged me about the vice president was uttering those famous words, "No controlling legal authority."	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I felt like there needed to be a better sense of responsibility of what was going on in the White House.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I believe that -- I believe they've moved that sign, "The buck stops here" from the Oval Office desk to "The buck stops here" on the Lincoln bedroom.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's not good for the country and it's not right.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We need to have a new look about how we conduct ourselves in office.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
There's a huge trust.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I see it all the time when people come up to me and say, I don't want you to let me down again.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And we can do better than the past administration has done.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's time for a fresh start.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's time for a new look.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's time for a fresh start after a season of cynicism.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And so I don't know the man well, but I've been disappointed about how he and his administration have conducted the fundraising affairs.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
You know, going to a Buddhist temple and then claiming it wasn't a fundraiser isn't my view of responsibility.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think we ought to attack our country's problems, not attack each other.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to spend my time making this country even better than it is, not trying to make you out to be a bad person.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
You may want to focus on scandal.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to focus on results.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
As I said a couple of months ago, I stand here as my own man and I want you to see me for who I really am.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Tipper and I have been married for 30 years.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We became grandparents a year-and-a-half ago.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We've got four children.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I have devoted 24 years of my life to public service and I've said this before and I'll say it again, if you entrust me with the presidency, I may not be the most exciting politician, but I will work hard for you every day.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I will fight for middle-class families and working men and women and I will never let you down.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
So, Governor, what are you saying when you mention the fundraising scandals or the fundraising charges that involve Vice President Gore?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
What are you saying that the voters should take from that that's relevant to this election?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
They ought to factor in it when they go to the voting booth.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
In what way?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think people need to be held responsible for the actions they take in life.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think that -- well, I think that's part of the need for a cultural change.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We need to say we each need to be responsible for what we do.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
People in the highest office of the land must be responsible for decisions they make in life.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And that's the way I've conducted myself as Governor of Texas and that's the way I'll conduct myself as President of the United States, should I be fortunate enough to earn your vote.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Are you saying all this is irrelevant, Vice President Gore?	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
No.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think the American people should take into account who we are as individuals, what our experience is, what our positions are on the issues and proposals are.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm asking you to see me for who I really am.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm offering you my own vision, my own experience, my own proposals.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And incidentally, one of them is this.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
This current campaign financing system has not reflected credit on anybody in either party.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And that's one of the reasons I've said before, and I'll pledge here tonight, if I'm president, the very first bill that Joe Lieberman and I will send to the United States Congress is the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform bill.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And the reason it's that important is that all of the other issues, whether prescription drugs for all seniors that are opposed by the drug companies or the patient's bill of rights to take the decisions away from the HMOs and give them to the doctors and nurses, opposed by the HMOs and insurance companies, all these other proposals are going to be a lot easier to get passed for the American people if we limit the influence of special interest money and give democracy back to the American people.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And I wish Governor Bush would join me this evening in endorsing the McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Reform Bill.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
You know, this man has no credibility on the issue.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
As a matter of fact, I read in the "New York Times" where he said he co-sponsored the McCain-Feingold Campaign Fundraising Bill.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
But he wasn't in the Senate with Senator Feingold.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And so, look, I'm going to -- what you need to know about me is I will uphold the law, I'm going to have an attorney general that enforces the law.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
The time for campaign funding reform is after the election.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
This man has outspent me and the special interests are outspending me.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And I am not going to lay down my arms in the middle of the campaign for somebody who has got no credibility on the issue.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Senator McCain -- hold on one second.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Senator McCain said in August, "It doesn't matter which one of you is President of the United States in January, there is going to be blood on the floor of the United States Senate," and he'll tie up the Senate until campaign finance reform is passed that includes a ban on soft money.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
First of all, would you support that effort by him, or would you sign a bill that is finally passed that included --	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I would support an effort to ban corporate soft money and labor union soft money so long as there was dues check-off.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I've campaigned on this since the primaries.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I believe there needs to be instant disclosure on the Internet as to who has given to who.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think we need to fully enforce the law.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think we need to have an attorney general that says if a law is broken, we'll enforce it.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Be strict and firm about it.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Look, Governor Bush, you have attacked my character and credibility and I am not going to respond in kind.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I think we ought to focus on the problems and not attack each other.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
One of the serious problems, hear me well, is that our system of government is being undermined by too much influence coming from special interest money.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
We have to get a handle on it.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And like John McCain, I have learned from experience, and it's not a new position for me.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
24 years ago I supported full public financing of all federal elections.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And anybody who thinks I'm just saying it, it will be the first bill I send to the Congress.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want you to know I care passionately about this and I will fight until it becomes law.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want people to hear what he just said.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
He is for full public financing of Congressional elections.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm absolutely, adamently opposed to that.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I don't want the government financing congressional elections.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
On that wonderful note of disagreement, we have to stop here and we want to go now to your closing statements.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Governor Bush is first.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
You have two minutes.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Thank you, Jim.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Thank the University of Massachusetts and Mr. Vice President, thank you.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
It has been a good, lively exchange.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
There is a huge difference of opinion.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Mine is I want to empower people in their own lives.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I also want to go to Washington to get some positive things done.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
It is going to require a new spirit.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
A spirit of cooperation.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It will require the ability of a Republican president to reach out across the partisan divide and to say to Democrats, let's come together to do what is right for America.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
It's been my record as Governor of Texas, it will be how I conduct myself if I'm fortunate enough to earn your vote as President of the United States.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to finally get something done on Medicare.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to make sure prescription drugs are available for all seniors.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
And I want seniors to have additional choices when it comes to choosing their health care plans.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to finally get something done on Social Security.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to make sure the seniors have the promise made will be a promise kept, but I want younger workers to be able to manage some of their own money, some of their own payroll taxes in the private sector under certain guidelines to get a better rate of return on your own money.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to rebuild our military to keep the peace.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to have a strong hand when it comes to the United States in world affairs.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I don't want to try to put our troops in all places at all times.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I don't want to be the world's policeman, I want to be the world's peacemaker by having a military of high morale and a military that is well-equipped.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want anti-ballistic missile systems to protect ourselves and our allies from a rogue nation that may try to hold us hostage or blackmail our allies and friends.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to make sure the education system fulfills its hope and promise.	George W. Bush	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I've had a strong record of working with Democrats and Republicans in Texas to make sure no child is left behind.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I understand the limited role of the federal government, but it could be a constructive role when it comes to reform, by insisting that there be a strong accountability systems.	George W. Bush	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
My intentions are to earn your vote and earn your confidence.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm asking for your vote.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want you to be on my team.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
And for those of you working, thanks from the bottom of my heart.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
For those of you making up your mind, I would be honored to have your support.	George W. Bush	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Vice President Gore, two minutes.	Jim Lehrer	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to thank everybody who watched and listened tonight because this is indeed a crucial time in American history.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
We're at a fork in the road.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
We have this incredible prosperity, but a lot of people have been left behind.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And we have a very important decision to make.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Will we use the prosperity to enrich all of our families and not just a few?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
One important way of looking at this is to ask who are you going to fight for?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Throughout my career in public service, I have fought for the working men and women of this country, middle-class families.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
Why?	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
Because you are the ones who have the hardest time paying taxes, the hardest time making ends meet.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
You are the ones who are making car payments and mortgage payments and doing right by your kids.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
And a lot of times there are powerful forces that are against you.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
Make no mistake about it, they do have undue influence in Washington, D.C. and it makes a difference if you have a president who will fight for you.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
I know one thing about the position of president, it's the only position in our Constitution that is filled by an individual who is given the responsibility to fight not just for one state or one district or the well-connected or wealthy, but to fight for all of the people, including especially those who most need somebody who will stand up and take on whatever powerful forces might stand in the way.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
There is a woman named Winifred Skinner here tonight from Iowa.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I mentioned her earlier.	Albert A. Gore	O	2000	03 Oct 2000
She's 79 years old.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
She has Social Security.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I'm not going to cut her benefits or support any proposal that would.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000
She gets a small pension, but in order to pay for her prescription drug benefits, she has to go out seven days a week several hours a day picking up cans.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
She came all the way from Iowa in a Winnebago with her poodle in order attend here tonight.	Albert A. Gore	Premise	2000	03 Oct 2000
I want to tell her, I'll fight for a prescription drug benefit for all seniors and fight for the people of this country for a prosperity that benefits all.	Albert A. Gore	Claim	2000	03 Oct 2000